Oh man... I don't wanna nerd out here.. bt I have to
The infected in 28 days/weeks aren't really zombies. They don't die and then re-animate. I'm just sayin..
The "infected" in L4D don't either, but I don't know of anyone who would argue it isn't a zombie game. You're kind of missing the point/argueing over semantics if you try to say 28DL isn't a zombie film.
What zombie rules apply? Only reanimating? Only those caused by the supernatural? Only ones that eat brains? Only those that can/can't talk? What nerd rules do you subscribe to?
Rule Number One : Zombies are undead.
The zombies in 28 Days and Left 4 Dead are called in both 'infected'. Neither are legit zombies, but display zombie-like behaviour. A game can be a zombie game without any zombies in the same way a film can be a zombie film without any. Gears of War doesn't have any Bald Space Marines, it's just a genre trope. Same deal applies here.
Oh man... I don't wanna nerd out here.. bt I have to
The infected in 28 days/weeks aren't really zombies. They don't die and then re-animate. I'm just sayin..
The "infected" in L4D don't either, but I don't know of anyone who would argue it isn't a zombie game. You're kind of missing the point/argueing over semantics if you try to say 28DL isn't a zombie film.
What zombie rules apply? Only reanimating? Only those caused by the supernatural? Only ones that eat brains? Only those that can/can't talk? What nerd rules do you subscribe to?
Since were on the internets, I can't tell if this is an angry post... seems like it is.
I'm not trying to start an argument or anything, just pointing out that those infected in those movies aren't zombies.
I also did not know that the infected in l4d were not re-animated corpses, learn something new every day
It wasn't meant to be an angry post, just a slightly snarky one. But whatever, as Toxic said, they're infected in both L4D and 28DL, so luckily it works.
In reply to Scarab, it still seems like splitting hairs to me. "zombie" has been used in so many different ways I don't think even that rule can necessarily always apply. After all, the original anthropological use of the word doesn't necessarily mean the undead.
In my book Infected is just a descriptor for a zombie sub category, much like shamblers/runners are sub sets. The other option being Raised I suppose, since method of creation is what is being described.
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Bought L4D last night. Would love to play it but every time I join a game my ping skyrockets to 1500+. I played TF2 regularly and I have never once had connection problems. If it matters I am on a 20Mb comcast business connection. I can play other online games with no problems. I have been kicked from every L4D game I have tried to play thus far.
If I can't figure out how to play the game at all is there anyway Steam can give me my money back?
Is it with specific servers, or every server you've tried? Also, have you tried turning off voice chat? I know, I know, thats a huge part of L4D, but KimChi's ping skyrockets when he leaves voicechat on in L4D, yet works fine in TF2.
Fly Gabe Newell made Kotaku, only then they took it down a minute later. Chicago Ted screencapped it, though!
why'd they take it down?
Maybe they realised they got the wrong end of the joke stick
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That 28 Days Later sound pack is fine, but L4D wouldn't be L4D without the Johnny Bravo tank sound pack. Getting close and hearing, before triggering him, "Nuthin bad's happened yet," is always priceless.
That 28 Days Later sound pack is fine, but L4D wouldn't be L4D without the Johnny Bravo tank sound pack. Getting close and hearing, before triggering him, "Nuthin bad's happened yet," is always priceless.
cross-posting this to hopefully get more responses
Bought L4D last night. Would love to play it but every time I join a game my ping skyrockets to 1500+. I played TF2 regularly and I have never once had connection problems. If it matters I am on a 20Mb comcast business connection. I can play other online games with no problems. I have been kicked from every L4D game I have tried to play thus far.
If I can't figure out how to play the game at all is there anyway Steam can give me my money back?
Is it with specific servers, or every server you've tried? Also, have you tried turning off voice chat? I know, I know, thats a huge part of L4D, but KimChi's ping skyrockets when he leaves voicechat on in L4D, yet works fine in TF2.
It has happened on every server I have joined via the game. I have yet to try the PA servers though I don't see why they would be any different. I don't have a mic so turning off the voice chat would be acceptable for the moment. I'll see if it works.
On another note, today I did what's probably going to be the final compile of the first map of my campaign, so here's some screenshots of it. Yeah, I know you've all seen it. Too bad!
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One of the custom campaigns we tried has a Boomer nailed to a cross. His upper half is still attached but the bottom is lying on the ground. It was pretty amazing.
I can't believe you've already raised $400. Gabe may as well start packing now.
Oh man, awesome. I like that article.
We're coming up on $500. I have added a new note to the page:
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Rule Number One : Zombies are undead.
The zombies in 28 Days and Left 4 Dead are called in both 'infected'. Neither are legit zombies, but display zombie-like behaviour. A game can be a zombie game without any zombies in the same way a film can be a zombie film without any. Gears of War doesn't have any Bald Space Marines, it's just a genre trope. Same deal applies here.
It wasn't meant to be an angry post, just a slightly snarky one. But whatever, as Toxic said, they're infected in both L4D and 28DL, so luckily it works.
In reply to Scarab, it still seems like splitting hairs to me. "zombie" has been used in so many different ways I don't think even that rule can necessarily always apply. After all, the original anthropological use of the word doesn't necessarily mean the undead.
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oh god I am not good at battlefield
why'd they take it down?
Is it with specific servers, or every server you've tried? Also, have you tried turning off voice chat? I know, I know, thats a huge part of L4D, but KimChi's ping skyrockets when he leaves voicechat on in L4D, yet works fine in TF2.
Maybe they realised they got the wrong end of the joke stick
Fuck it im uninstalling.
Edit: Oh god the comments. I am so sorry for linking this now. Please don't read them.
I just downloaded this
It sounds wonderful
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The zombies in Night of the Living Dead aren't really zombies. They're not animated or compelled by voodoo.
The vampires in Bram Stoker's Dracula aren't really vampires. They can walk around during the day without being destroyed by sunlight.
etc.
It has happened on every server I have joined via the game. I have yet to try the PA servers though I don't see why they would be any different. I don't have a mic so turning off the voice chat would be acceptable for the moment. I'll see if it works.
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errr, this was clarified a long time ago. It was never coming today.
I do find how the answer to this appears to be uninstalling.
I hope it comes out next week or something and you'll be all like awwwww
Man, I have to wait a few more weeks, tops, for my free content. OFF MY HARD DRIVE, VILE GAME!
You forgot the best part; the quote.
On another note, today I did what's probably going to be the final compile of the first map of my campaign, so here's some screenshots of it. Yeah, I know you've all seen it. Too bad!
also, levitating zombie!
One of the custom campaigns we tried has a Boomer nailed to a cross. His upper half is still attached but the bottom is lying on the ground. It was pretty amazing.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/09/11/the-boycott-joes-l4d-map-campaign
I can't believe you've already raised $400. Gabe may as well start packing now.
Great idea! Any way to donate with a debit card or is it only credit cards?
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/09/11/the-boycott-joes-l4d-map-campaign/
Oh man, awesome. I like that article.
We're coming up on $500. I have added a new note to the page:
I mean it should be on your site too
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You realize they're gonna take you up on this shit
I hope you are ready to make yourself and your home presentable for Gabe Newell
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Indeed. Hired henchman, soundproofed room, about maybe 30 yards of rope...