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Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Masks, huh?Mine's superior.Registered User regular
alright so check this out

these dudes right, they synthesized a strand of bacterial dna, and they put it in a cell, right

and then the dna took over the cell

so essentially, we're a half step away from creating life

that is terrifying and awesome and terrifying.

the president is apparently looking into this kind of stuff to see if it is considered ethical or not

so let me posit that question to you, class

is it cool to create organic cells for use in biofuels and the like

and if that's cool where does that coolness end

when does it start getting like, gattaca levels of fucked up

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  • TamTam I hate art I love artRegistered User regular
    yep let's do it

  • Skull ManSkull Man Registered User regular
    can someone who knows more about science explain this to me step-by-step to tell me why it's remarkable

  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Chareth Cutestory Lawyer of the SeaRegistered User regular
    This isn't cool

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  • bombardierbombardier Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    Make something that eats plastic and poops out rainbows.

  • RoloRolo Registered User regular
    Ethics are only defined by the limitation of our natural bodies.

    Genetics are the key to being free of our natural shackles.

  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Masks, huh? Mine's superior.Registered User regular
    Skull Man wrote: »
    can someone who knows more about science explain this to me step-by-step to tell me why it's remarkable

    you could try reading the article I linked helpfully

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  • Viscount IslandsViscount Islands [INSERT SoKo HERE] Registered User regular
    Make me a lizard person.

    I want to do with you
    What spring does with the cherry trees.
  • RoloRolo Registered User regular
    Rolo wrote: »
    Ethics are only defined by the limitation of our natural bodies.

    Genetics are the key to being free of our natural shackles.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoteS17NnGE

  • LarlarLarlar Super Moderator, Moderator, ClubPA mod
    Can we synthesize people then start up the slave trade again?

    No, synthesizing people is wrong.

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  • lostwordslostwords Registered User regular
    so like if you inject special bacterial horsey dna into a baby, you can raise a halfstallion/half human monstrosity? am i reading that right? can i finally ride a centaur?

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  • GreenGreen Stick around. I'm full of bad ideas.Registered User regular
    Skull Man wrote: »
    can someone who knows more about science explain this to me step-by-step to tell me why it's remarkable

    Science is halfway to being God

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  • Viscount IslandsViscount Islands [INSERT SoKo HERE] Registered User regular
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    I want to do with you
    What spring does with the cherry trees.
  • DubhDubh Hoodmistress Registered User regular
    good god

    a politician is the last person I want looking at the ethical limits of science

  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Masks, huh? Mine's superior.Registered User regular
    lostwords wrote: »
    so like if you inject special bacterial horsey dna into a baby, you can raise a halfstallion/half human monstrosity? am i reading that right? can i finally ride a centaur?

    I don't think we're quite that far, boss

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  • LarlarLarlar Super Moderator, Moderator, ClubPA mod
    Green wrote: »
    Skull Man wrote: »
    can someone who knows more about science explain this to me step-by-step to tell me why it's remarkable

    Science is halfway to being God

    The other half is being a frozen carcass in space.

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  • VivixenneVivixenne Not Mad... Just DisappointedRegistered User regular
    wait so what are the implications of this technology that make it a bad thing or a good thing?

  • Anjin-SanAnjin-San That Wrong Love Registered User regular
  • HoukHouk Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    Let me recreate a real-life pokemon of my choice, and then burn this program to the ground

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  • RuckusRuckus Registered User regular
    I cannot foresee any potential problems or consequences to Humankind playing God.

    Raneados wrote: »
    so what SPECIFICALLY is the problem with my hole?
  • Wrench N RocketsWrench N Rockets Registered User regular
    Can we synthesize people then start up the slave trade again?

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  • Anjin-SanAnjin-San That Wrong Love Registered User regular
    Vivixenne wrote: »
    wait so what are the implications of this technology that make it a bad thing or a good thing?

    william gibson quote from call of duty 4

  • SquallSquall hap cloud Registered User regular
    will it make me an android

    these are the questions

  • RoloRolo Registered User regular
    lostwords wrote: »
    so like if you inject special bacterial horsey dna into a baby, you can raise a halfstallion/half human monstrosity? am i reading that right? can i finally ride a centaur?



    Essentially we've only been able to splice parts of engineered DNA patterns into cells before.

    This time we've put an entire loop of engineered DNA into a cell, and it's complete enough that it can replicate on its own.

  • bombardierbombardier Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    Seriously though something that could decompose plastic would be pretty useful. Also other nasty shit like oil. Ok I guess oil then.

  • DubhDubh Hoodmistress Registered User regular
    is there any work of science fiction where playing God turns out to be pretty okay?

  • The Otaku SuppositoryThe Otaku Suppository PAHK YAH CAH IN DAH YAHD BAWH-STANRegistered User regular

    is it cool to create organic cells for use in biofuels and the like

    and if that's cool where does that coolness end

    when does it start getting like, gattaca levels of fucked up

    Right about the time when the scientist responsible says this:
    "We decided that writing new biological software and creating new species, we could create new species to what we want them to do, not what they evolved to do."

    It sounds benign and incredibly ethical boundary pushing creepy at the same time.

    Your fuckin' family's dug into the Southie projects like ticks. You, however, grew up on the North Shore, huh? Well, la-di-fuckin'-da. You were kind of a double kid, I bet, right? Huh? One kid with your old man, one kid with your mother. You're upper-middle class during the weeks, then you're droppin' your "R"s and you're hangin' in the big, bad Southie projects with your daddy on the weekends. I got that right?
  • HoukHouk Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    Ruckus wrote: »
    I cannot foresee any potential problems or consequences to Humankind playing God.
    Someone's gotta pick up His slack!

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  • RoloRolo Registered User regular
    Dubh wrote: »
    is there any work of science fiction where playing God turns out to be pretty okay?

    You're only 'playing god' when something goes horribly wrong.

    The rest of the time you're curing cancer.

  • Kevin CristKevin Crist Look at the faces. Listen to the bells. It's hard to believe we need a place called hell.Registered User regular
    It ends when I can go to a Mythical Creatures Zoo.

    On Tuesdays you can feed the Manticores live fairies.

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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Chareth Cutestory Lawyer of the SeaRegistered User regular
    Rolo wrote: »
    Dubh wrote: »
    is there any work of science fiction where playing God turns out to be pretty okay?

    You're only 'playing god' when something goes horribly wrong.

    The rest of the time you're curing cancer.

    I would call curing cancer playing God

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  • The Otaku SuppositoryThe Otaku Suppository PAHK YAH CAH IN DAH YAHD BAWH-STANRegistered User regular
    bombardier wrote: »
    Seriously though something that could decompose plastic would be pretty useful. Also other nasty shit like oil. Ok I guess oil then.

    But what if it doesn't stop there? What if it hungers for more?

    Your fuckin' family's dug into the Southie projects like ticks. You, however, grew up on the North Shore, huh? Well, la-di-fuckin'-da. You were kind of a double kid, I bet, right? Huh? One kid with your old man, one kid with your mother. You're upper-middle class during the weeks, then you're droppin' your "R"s and you're hangin' in the big, bad Southie projects with your daddy on the weekends. I got that right?
  • Wrench N RocketsWrench N Rockets Registered User regular
    Rolo wrote: »
    lostwords wrote: »
    so like if you inject special bacterial horsey dna into a baby, you can raise a halfstallion/half human monstrosity? am i reading that right? can i finally ride a centaur?



    Essentially we've only been able to splice parts of engineered DNA patterns into cells before.

    This time we've put an entire loop of engineered DNA into a cell, and it's complete enough that it can replicate on its own.

    The implications for bioweapons are terrifying.

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  • LarlarLarlar Super Moderator, Moderator, ClubPA mod
    Dubh wrote: »
    is there any work of science fiction where playing God turns out to be pretty okay?

    I'll write one when I'm done with my current story. That sounds like fun.

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  • TamTam I hate art I love artRegistered User regular
    they haven't created life from scratch by the way
    Dr. Venter copied the DNA from one species of bacteria and inserted it into another. The second bacteria made all the proteins and organelles in the so-called “synthetic cell,” by following the specifications implicit in the structure of the inserted DNA.

    heavy modification, sure

  • FaynorFaynor Registered User regular
    Can I splice up yet

    Can I become a tiger-man

    do you wanna see me eat a hotdog
  • DubhDubh Hoodmistress Registered User regular
    Larlar wrote: »
    Dubh wrote: »
    is there any work of science fiction where playing God turns out to be pretty okay?

    I'll write one when I'm done with my current story. That sounds like fun.

    maybe I should also write something

    start a trend

  • RoloRolo Registered User regular
    Rolo wrote: »
    lostwords wrote: »
    so like if you inject special bacterial horsey dna into a baby, you can raise a halfstallion/half human monstrosity? am i reading that right? can i finally ride a centaur?



    Essentially we've only been able to splice parts of engineered DNA patterns into cells before.

    This time we've put an entire loop of engineered DNA into a cell, and it's complete enough that it can replicate on its own.

    The implications for bioweapons are terrifying.

    Really, there are many more effective, less-delicate and less-costly methods for creating bio-weapons than this.

  • HoukHouk Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    Rolo wrote: »
    Dubh wrote: »
    is there any work of science fiction where playing God turns out to be pretty okay?

    You're only 'playing god' when something goes horribly wrong.

    The rest of the time you're curing cancer.

    I would call curing cancer playing God
    In that case, I would call any use of medicine and really any attempt at self-preservation playing God

    In which case, the phrase is utterly useless

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  • scarlet st.scarlet st. Registered User
    Can we synthesize people then start up the slave trade again?

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    :^:

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