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[Dungeons] and the Keepers who love them.

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    FireflashFireflash Montreal, QCRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Smacking your workers when they didn't work hard enough was always great fun.

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    ArrathArrath Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    I hated spiders in DK1 because they murdered all my flies. Who were great to posses and scout with when an Imp broke through into a lava lake. Am I the only one that even found possessing imps and mining with them to be fun?

    I loved mind controlling monsters!

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    DramDram Old Salt Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Arrath wrote: »
    I hated spiders in DK1 because they murdered all my flies. Who were great to posses and scout with when an Imp broke through into a lava lake. Am I the only one that even found possessing imps and mining with them to be fun?

    I loved mind controlling monsters!

    I used to love possessing imps and mining. Possessing flies to scout around at high speed was also a blast.

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    ZxerolZxerol for the smaller pieces, my shovel wouldn't do so i took off my boot and used my shoeRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Dungeon Keeper and Molyneux's previous games are the reason AIAS is giving him a lifetime achievement award, as far as I'm concerned. His post-Bullfrog games are null and void.

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    Beef AvengerBeef Avenger Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Dram wrote: »
    Arrath wrote: »
    I hated spiders in DK1 because they murdered all my flies. Who were great to posses and scout with when an Imp broke through into a lava lake. Am I the only one that even found possessing imps and mining with them to be fun?

    I loved mind controlling monsters!

    I used to love possessing imps and mining. Possessing flies to scout around at high speed was also a blast.

    Leveled up imps were awesome. Possess them, cast haste, then DIG DIG DIG

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    DeadfallDeadfall I don't think you realize just how rich he is. In fact, I should put on a monocle.Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    My absolute favorite level by far in DK2 was the one where you were secretly launching an assault on the enemy. Like, you had to burst through a wall and then quickly put up a secret door and lock it so no enemy patrols would stumble upon your breach.

    Just slowly taking over the lair, room by room. I just pictured the patrols, "Wha-? I don't remember this wall being here...."

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    SyphyreSyphyre A Dangerous Pastime Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    I don't care if it's $40, I'm sold. I've been waiting for a spiritual successor to DK2 for a looooong time now.

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    Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    You guys have convinced me.

    Tonight, I'm reinstalling DK1.

    Edit: Also the Deeper Dungeons. Was that the one with that one level where you had 100 imps and you had to kill them all within a certain time limit, or was that DK2?

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    AnzekayAnzekay Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    You guys have convinced me.

    Tonight, I'm reinstalling DK1.

    Edit: Also the Deeper Dungeons. Was that the one with that one level where you had 100 imps and you had to kill them all within a certain time limit, or was that DK2?

    That was DK1, it was a secret level

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    Jam WarriorJam Warrior Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Dram wrote: »
    Icemopper wrote: »
    One thing I reeeeeaally want in this game is the "voice." That was one of my favorite parts of the DK games.

    "Your minions are getting hungry, they need a hatchery!"
    JACKPOT!

    I can't remember if all the voice clips were just wav files in the game's directory or I have a vague memory that we got some freeware program on a magazine cover disc to extract them, but I do remember me and a mate flicking thorugh all the voice files in the game and finding two we never found in game (though to be fair we didn't ever finish it).

    "Your Pants are far too tight."

    and,

    "Oh my God... It's full of pies."

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    Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Anzekay wrote: »
    You guys have convinced me.

    Tonight, I'm reinstalling DK1.

    Edit: Also the Deeper Dungeons. Was that the one with that one level where you had 100 imps and you had to kill them all within a certain time limit, or was that DK2?

    That was DK1, it was a secret level

    Ah, cool, thanks.

    If you can find the voices in a playable format, I think it'll be time for me to upgrade my ringtone.

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    Jam WarriorJam Warrior Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Anzekay wrote: »
    You guys have convinced me.

    Tonight, I'm reinstalling DK1.

    Edit: Also the Deeper Dungeons. Was that the one with that one level where you had 100 imps and you had to kill them all within a certain time limit, or was that DK2?

    That was DK1, it was a secret level

    Ah, cool, thanks.

    If you can find the voices in a playable format, I think it'll be time for me to upgrade my ringtone.

    The files themselves would of course be copyright material, but I remembered right on the extractor which can be found here if you have the original game.

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    Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Ooo, thanks.

    Now I just need to install the game and decide which soundbyte to use.

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    IcemopperIcemopper Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    I always loved the levels with diamond blocks that gave you infinite gold. I would just go insane on my fortress after I found one of those. 200 lv.10 imps? Sure thing! A 100x100 lair? Why not!?

    Then I would still get yelled at by "the voice." He was so demanding!

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    LanrutconLanrutcon The LabyrinthRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Man, if I could get DK1 to run at a decent resolution in XP I'd play it again. But lord it's buggy in XP and the resolution options make my head hurt.

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    -SPI--SPI- Osaka, JapanRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    It blew my mind at the time that on days that were full moons hidden levels appeared in Dungeon Keeper.

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    GumpyGumpy There is always a greater powerRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Vic wrote: »
    There were spiders in DK?

    They eat all your flies

    Your creatures are attacking each other

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    StormwatcherStormwatcher Blegh BlughRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Silpheed wrote: »
    While I've been waiting for way too long for a Dungeon Keeper clone there's no way in hell I'm paying 45 Euro for it.

    Sucks to be you

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    WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Icemopper wrote: »
    One thing I reeeeeaally want in this game is the "voice." That was one of my favorite parts of the DK games.

    "Your minions are getting hungry, they need a hatchery!"
    When I played Dungeon Keeper 2, The Voice tended to point out that I had quite a few Dark Mistresses running around my dungeon.

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    hamdingershamdingers Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Once a week I go to Gog, look for an announcement they will be offering DK.

    Always leave sad.

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    IcemopperIcemopper Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Hahaha oh man I love this guy:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGHmr3D4Mnc

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    LockeColeLockeCole Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
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    NeurotikaNeurotika Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    ohmygodohmygodohmygod

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    CherrnCherrn Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Not really digging the DOTA-esque RPG mechanics of the dungeon lord himself. I guess a first person mode is too much to ask for.

    Edit: Yeah, with the whole pentagram spawning thing and letting heroes build up their soul energy, this is sounding more and more like some sort of DOTA hybrid. Not sure I'm interested anymore.

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    Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    -SPI- wrote: »
    It blew my mind at the time that on days that were full moons hidden levels appeared in Dungeon Keeper.

    Wait, what?

    I always wondered what that greyed out flag with the white circle was. I guess that was the hidden level.

    Apparently there are birthday messages to the developers hidden on certain days, too, and enemy keepers will fax you if your printer is connected :shock:

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    DrunkMcDrunkMc Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    -SPI- wrote: »
    It blew my mind at the time that on days that were full moons hidden levels appeared in Dungeon Keeper.


    If you played on NYE (or set your system clock like I did) all the Ghouls would start dancing and shoot off Fireworks too.

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    INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt with blood on my teeth Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Cherrn wrote: »
    Edit: Yeah, with the whole pentagram spawning thing and letting heroes build up their soul energy, this is sounding more and more like some sort of DOTA hybrid. Not sure I'm interested anymore.

    I'm not sure that 'it's too much like dota' is a legit complaint about a single player game

    Also, you would be imprisoning and torturing heroes anyway, right? So...

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    EndomaticEndomatic Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    That game looks like they took half of DK out, and shoe horned in Diablo 2.

    I'm not very interested.

    I liked Minions. I liked not knowing what I looked like. I liked the voice.

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    bamjobamjo Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Ok after seeing that video this is game is looking a lot better to me. I don't really like the neon lighting they are going with, but meh. I don't mind that they took out managing minions needs and replaced it with an rpg style system. At least it makes Dungeons less of a straight DK ripoff and more its own hybrid game.

    I loved the first two, but in retrospect the minion needs stuff feels kind of Sims-like. I like that this is upping the action while retaining the base building and planning stuff. The part about heroes being worth more energy the more they roam around your dungeon sounds like a cool system.

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    TNTrooperTNTrooper Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Anzekay wrote: »
    You guys have convinced me.

    Tonight, I'm reinstalling DK1.

    Edit: Also the Deeper Dungeons. Was that the one with that one level where you had 100 imps and you had to kill them all within a certain time limit, or was that DK2?

    That was DK1, it was a secret level

    Ah, cool, thanks.

    If you can find the voices in a playable format, I think it'll be time for me to upgrade my ringtone.

    The files themselves would of course be copyright material, but I remembered right on the extractor which can be found here if you have the original game.

    Doesn't appear to work on 64-bit OS found Dungeon UnPACKer after a bit of googleing that did the job for me.

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    elliotw2elliotw2 Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    DrunkMc wrote: »
    -SPI- wrote: »
    It blew my mind at the time that on days that were full moons hidden levels appeared in Dungeon Keeper.


    If you played on NYE (or set your system clock like I did) all the Ghouls would start dancing and shoot off Fireworks too.

    Around 12-1AM DK2's voice will command that everyone parties like it's 1999, and all heroes and minions will dance for a few minutes

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    LockeColeLockeCole Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    I always liked the jackpot in the casino.

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    DramDram Old Salt Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Hmmm. I'm still not sold. I've never played DotA, but the way the heroes wander into your dungeon and just hang around seems a lot like Evil Genius. Don't get me wrong, I loved EG. But having spies and troops casually strolling around your base all the time was frustrating. They became fairly hard to keep track of.

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    ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Dram wrote: »
    Hmmm. I'm still not sold. I've never played DotA, but the way the heroes wander into your dungeon and just hang around seems a lot like Evil Genius. Don't get me wrong, I loved EG. But having spies and troops casually strolling around your base all the time was frustrating. They became fairly hard to keep track of.

    ... But that's how it worked in the original DK, too ...

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    DramDram Old Salt Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Elvenshae wrote: »
    Dram wrote: »
    Hmmm. I'm still not sold. I've never played DotA, but the way the heroes wander into your dungeon and just hang around seems a lot like Evil Genius. Don't get me wrong, I loved EG. But having spies and troops casually strolling around your base all the time was frustrating. They became fairly hard to keep track of.

    ... But that's how it worked in the original DK, too ...

    Not really. Letting heroes into your dungeon was an incredibly bad thing that had to be taken care of quickly, because they just loved to wreck your shit. They were also easy to keep track of, simply because they'd start destroying stuff as soon as they got in.
    This game seems like it'll have an evil genius type mechanic, where the heroes casually stroll around your dungeon, looking for things that interest them and ignoring your minions for the most part. I always found the spies and such in Evil Genius hard to keep track of when they got in, because they'd ignore all your minions and not generate any alerts until they were way deep inside your base.

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    mrt144mrt144 King of the Numbernames Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Dram wrote: »
    Elvenshae wrote: »
    Dram wrote: »
    Hmmm. I'm still not sold. I've never played DotA, but the way the heroes wander into your dungeon and just hang around seems a lot like Evil Genius. Don't get me wrong, I loved EG. But having spies and troops casually strolling around your base all the time was frustrating. They became fairly hard to keep track of.

    ... But that's how it worked in the original DK, too ...

    Not really. Letting heroes into your dungeon was an incredibly bad thing that had to be taken care of quickly, because they just loved to wreck your shit. They were also easy to keep track of, simply because they'd start destroying stuff as soon as they got in.
    This game seems like it'll have an evil genius type mechanic, where the heroes casually stroll around your dungeon, looking for things that interest them and ignoring your minions for the most part. I always found the spies and such in Evil Genius hard to keep track of when they got in, because they'd ignore all your minions and not generate any alerts until they were way deep inside your base.

    Isnt that what traps are for?

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    DeadfallDeadfall I don't think you realize just how rich he is. In fact, I should put on a monocle.Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Hmmm, so it's like reverse Dungeon Keeper. Sounds good, but not for day one price.

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    DramDram Old Salt Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    mrt144 wrote: »
    Dram wrote: »
    Elvenshae wrote: »
    Dram wrote: »
    Hmmm. I'm still not sold. I've never played DotA, but the way the heroes wander into your dungeon and just hang around seems a lot like Evil Genius. Don't get me wrong, I loved EG. But having spies and troops casually strolling around your base all the time was frustrating. They became fairly hard to keep track of.

    ... But that's how it worked in the original DK, too ...

    Not really. Letting heroes into your dungeon was an incredibly bad thing that had to be taken care of quickly, because they just loved to wreck your shit. They were also easy to keep track of, simply because they'd start destroying stuff as soon as they got in.
    This game seems like it'll have an evil genius type mechanic, where the heroes casually stroll around your dungeon, looking for things that interest them and ignoring your minions for the most part. I always found the spies and such in Evil Genius hard to keep track of when they got in, because they'd ignore all your minions and not generate any alerts until they were way deep inside your base.

    Isnt that what traps are for?

    I must be a bad evil genius, because I could never get my traps to work properly. My own minions would set them off more than the enemies. Eventually I found a guide for creating a whirlwind supertrap, which did the job at the cost of a great deal of building space.

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    mrt144mrt144 King of the Numbernames Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Dram wrote: »
    mrt144 wrote: »
    Dram wrote: »
    Elvenshae wrote: »
    Dram wrote: »
    Hmmm. I'm still not sold. I've never played DotA, but the way the heroes wander into your dungeon and just hang around seems a lot like Evil Genius. Don't get me wrong, I loved EG. But having spies and troops casually strolling around your base all the time was frustrating. They became fairly hard to keep track of.

    ... But that's how it worked in the original DK, too ...

    Not really. Letting heroes into your dungeon was an incredibly bad thing that had to be taken care of quickly, because they just loved to wreck your shit. They were also easy to keep track of, simply because they'd start destroying stuff as soon as they got in.
    This game seems like it'll have an evil genius type mechanic, where the heroes casually stroll around your dungeon, looking for things that interest them and ignoring your minions for the most part. I always found the spies and such in Evil Genius hard to keep track of when they got in, because they'd ignore all your minions and not generate any alerts until they were way deep inside your base.

    Isnt that what traps are for?

    I must be a bad evil genius, because I could never get my traps to work properly. My own minions would set them off more than the enemies. Eventually I found a guide for creating a whirlwind supertrap, which did the job at the cost of a great deal of building space.

    Oh, I meant in the context of dungeon keeper. Didn't mean to leave that so vague.

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    DramDram Old Salt Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    mrt144 wrote: »
    Dram wrote: »
    mrt144 wrote: »
    Dram wrote: »
    Elvenshae wrote: »
    Dram wrote: »
    Hmmm. I'm still not sold. I've never played DotA, but the way the heroes wander into your dungeon and just hang around seems a lot like Evil Genius. Don't get me wrong, I loved EG. But having spies and troops casually strolling around your base all the time was frustrating. They became fairly hard to keep track of.

    ... But that's how it worked in the original DK, too ...

    Not really. Letting heroes into your dungeon was an incredibly bad thing that had to be taken care of quickly, because they just loved to wreck your shit. They were also easy to keep track of, simply because they'd start destroying stuff as soon as they got in.
    This game seems like it'll have an evil genius type mechanic, where the heroes casually stroll around your dungeon, looking for things that interest them and ignoring your minions for the most part. I always found the spies and such in Evil Genius hard to keep track of when they got in, because they'd ignore all your minions and not generate any alerts until they were way deep inside your base.

    Isnt that what traps are for?


    I must be a bad evil genius, because I could never get my traps to work properly. My own minions would set them off more than the enemies. Eventually I found a guide for creating a whirlwind supertrap, which did the job at the cost of a great deal of building space.

    Oh, I meant in the context of dungeon keeper. Didn't mean to leave that so vague.

    Oh! Yes...traps would do a fairly good job of keeping heroes out in DK. Though my preferred way of dealing with them was just to seal my dungeon as tight as possible and amass a huge army. Then break through into the heroes/enemy keepers tunnels and drop all my minions on them.

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