Can we put watson inside windows computers so it can tell us what the hell question error messages are suppose to answer?
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Can we put watson inside windows computers so it can tell us what the hell question error messages are suppose to answer?
"Insufficient data for meaningful answer."
"What screen and data, shown to a computer user, will be both incomprehensible yet inspire rage and despair?"
Also this seems like a nice advancement in an AI being able to understand human speaking patterns, universal translator anyone?
No, superior spambots will be the real outcome.
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just watched it(broadcasts here at 3:30)...really amazing. good job HAL, I wouldn't have believed you could do this good without having seen it.
did they put on veterans against it?
that would really suck if you were one of those people who studied their butts off and waited years for a chance to be on the show only to get called up to play a goddamn computer
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just watched it(broadcasts here at 3:30)...really amazing. good job HAL, I wouldn't have believed you could do this good without having seen it.
did they put on veterans against it?
that would really suck if you were one of those people who studied their butts off and waited years for a chance to be on the show only to get called up to play a goddamn computer
Yeah, they pit it against Ken Jennings and someone else I don't know but who won a lot. It was interesting, it completely dominated the first half of the game and then was pretty poor in the second half.
I can't wait to watch this; glad I stumbled across this thread.
I'm curious to see how Watson handles the Stupid Anecdotes About Yourself segment of the show.
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Watson getting the questions as text before Trebek even gets 2 words out seems patently unfair, as opposed to using speech recognition. Or if Watson is pre-programmed to know exactly when the "Answer Now" light goes on, rather than having to optically recognize it like a human would and physically press a buzzer using motors no faster than a human hand can move.
Buzzer speed/timing is as important as actual knowledge on Jeopardy. During Ken Jennings' streak, he remarked that he felt he had an advantage over his challengers due to his familiarity with the buzzers. But this is supposed to display Watson vs humans as search engines, not buzzer-pressing machines. We already know machines can perform simple mechanical tasks much faster than people.
That was not nearly as ego destroying, clue wise, as I was anticipating. The Ultimate Tournament of Champions made me very very sad. I got like half of these? Maybe 2/3.
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Watson getting the questions as text before Trebek even gets 2 words out seems patently unfair, as opposed to using speech recognition. Or if Watson is pre-programmed to know exactly when the "Answer Now" light goes on, rather than having to optically recognize it like a human would and physically press a buzzer using motors no faster than a human hand can move.
Buzzer speed/timing is as important as actual knowledge on Jeopardy. During Ken Jennings' streak, he remarked that he felt he had an advantage over his challengers due to his familiarity with the buzzers. But this is supposed to display Watson vs humans as search engines, not buzzer-pressing machines. We already know machines can perform simple mechanical tasks much faster than people.
I'm curious to see how Watson handles the Stupid Anecdotes About Yourself segment of the show.
Well, for one, players can read the text, too. They don't have to wait for Trebek to finish talking to know the question. I don't see that part as explicitly unfair. I imagine it takes Watson some amount of real-world time to parse the questions. The other part, yeah. Watson either thinks it knows the answer and it rings in first (from what I saw from the CES videos), or it doesn't ring in at all.
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that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
That was not nearly as ego destroying, clue wise, as I was anticipating. The Ultimate Tournament of Champions made me very very sad. I got like half of these? Maybe 2/3.
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Watson getting the questions as text before Trebek even gets 2 words out seems patently unfair, as opposed to using speech recognition. Or if Watson is pre-programmed to know exactly when the "Answer Now" light goes on, rather than having to optically recognize it like a human would and physically press a buzzer using motors no faster than a human hand can move.
Buzzer speed/timing is as important as actual knowledge on Jeopardy. During Ken Jennings' streak, he remarked that he felt he had an advantage over his challengers due to his familiarity with the buzzers. But this is supposed to display Watson vs humans as search engines, not buzzer-pressing machines. We already know machines can perform simple mechanical tasks much faster than people.
By the end of Jennings's run, they started giving his opponents more time with the buzzer to practice than usual, to try and counteract his experience with them.
The buzz-in speed thing is a huge deal, it can easily decide who wins. If two contestants have roughly similar knowledge, it will decide who wins. So unless they put some work into ensuring that the computer didn't have an advantage there, the whole thing would be somewhat silly.
EDIT: Though really it would just be about programming in a "reaction time;" having it search while the question is read is fair game.
Didn't seem to be able to use the other players answers as clues
like it tried to answer the same wrong answer a few times
It only answered the same wrong answer one time, 1920's after Ken Jennings said "What is the twenties?"
And it seemed to me that it learned a bit. For a lot of the early "Name The Decade" questions, Watson had some secondary choices that weren't decades, they were random things like names or people. Then it gradually switched all it's choices to predominately years, and then finally to predominately decades.
Man I'm watching this now and it is really interesting. Watson is really impressive the only issues that seemed to crop up were the lack of input from what the other people were guessing and just a few things that you could tell weren't quite leading to the right answer.
All in all amazing step towards some actually intelligent AI.
It always seems when people build a computer that can compete at a human level there have to be giant controversies that its cheating at the game.
I can understand that with Deep Blue, due to the type of game chess is. Watson seems like a giant step forward from what the Deep Blue computer was capable of though. Its hard to see how its cheating at Jeopardy though when a human can put emotions and real world experience behind words, whereas Watson can only look through text after text.
It always seems when people build a computer that can compete at a human level there have to be giant controversies that its cheating at the game.
I can understand that with Deep Blue, due to the type of game chess is. Watson seems like a giant step forward from what the Deep Blue computer was capable of though. Its hard to see how its cheating at Jeopardy though when a human can put emotions and real world experience behind words, whereas Watson can only look through text after text.
I don't see why Watson should have been required to use voice recognition, since a deaf contestant could also compete on Jeopardy by reading the board.
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It always seems when people build a computer that can compete at a human level there have to be giant controversies that its cheating at the game.
I can understand that with Deep Blue, due to the type of game chess is. Watson seems like a giant step forward from what the Deep Blue computer was capable of though. Its hard to see how its cheating at Jeopardy though when a human can put emotions and real world experience behind words, whereas Watson can only look through text after text.
they've already taught it to love
Great.
Next it'll learn to hate.
Worse possibility? It may start pondering its own existence.
Am I the only one that wants to see three Watsons face off against one another?
Might be fun.
But naming them all Watson? Confusing. Let's leave that name to the original. New ones need new names.
Let's see. A scientist wouldn't be a bad chance. Let's go with an astronomer. Seeing the stars and suchlike. Tycho Brahe seems fitting considering where we're posting.
Maybe an inanimate object for the second. Sword of legend or something for intimidation. Not Excalibur or Cortana, too cliche. Maybe Roland's sword. Indestructability of learning or summat.
And why not a girl name for the third one, add some diversity. Let's go with a Doctor Who reference. Cavewoman was Leela, right? For the double Futurama reference points.
I heard an interview on the radio today with Jennings and Rutter. They claimed that in the practice matches that Watson did poorly on laundry detergents.
So just remember when Skynet is sending wave after wave of exoskeletons to wipe out your human resistance cell, your only hope is Cheer with colorguard.
Clearly the other two systems would be named Sherlock and Moriarty
And for Final Jeopardy, Alex whips out a question with Irene Adler as the answer and Sherlock promptly crashes and burns.
EDIT: In all seriousness though it would be fascinating to watch how each of them computes the question and checks out data and the like. Would they all come up with the exact same answers, buzz in at the exact same instances? Or is there enough variability that they'd come up with a wider range of solutions?
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I loved Watson's first answer ("question") selection.
OH COME ON!
edit: Am I'm kind of annoyed that this isn't three full games. The last episode, if its just Final Jeopardy, will be boring as fuck.
They said at one point they're playing two games over three days. I figure the first two days will probably be one game, in order to have plenty of time to talk about the technology, and the third day will likely be a complete game.
Ken clearly realised that Watson is bound to get the answer and that his only chance is to beat him on the buzzer.
Trebek: Ken!
Ken: Um, I don't know... the 20s?
Ken buzzes in no matter what!
Yeah, between Watson and the other guy (who actually held his own with Watson), Ken started trying to game the system just by being the first to buzz in. Kind of fun to watch him pull the right answer out of nowhere when he clearly didn't know it before buzzing in (but he still didn't end up doing too well).
Did the other guy beat Ken in any of those tournaments he won?
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"Insufficient data for meaningful answer."
"What screen and data, shown to a computer user, will be both incomprehensible yet inspire rage and despair?"
Also this seems like a nice advancement in an AI being able to understand human speaking patterns, universal translator anyone?
No, superior spambots will be the real outcome.
did they put on veterans against it?
that would really suck if you were one of those people who studied their butts off and waited years for a chance to be on the show only to get called up to play a goddamn computer
Yeah, they pit it against Ken Jennings and someone else I don't know but who won a lot. It was interesting, it completely dominated the first half of the game and then was pretty poor in the second half.
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I'm curious to see how Watson handles the Stupid Anecdotes About Yourself segment of the show.
like it tried to answer the same wrong answer a few times
Buzzer speed/timing is as important as actual knowledge on Jeopardy. During Ken Jennings' streak, he remarked that he felt he had an advantage over his challengers due to his familiarity with the buzzers. But this is supposed to display Watson vs humans as search engines, not buzzer-pressing machines. We already know machines can perform simple mechanical tasks much faster than people.
OH COME ON!
edit: Am I'm kind of annoyed that this isn't three full games. The last episode, if its just Final Jeopardy, will be boring as fuck.
Well, for one, players can read the text, too. They don't have to wait for Trebek to finish talking to know the question. I don't see that part as explicitly unfair. I imagine it takes Watson some amount of real-world time to parse the questions. The other part, yeah. Watson either thinks it knows the answer and it rings in first (from what I saw from the CES videos), or it doesn't ring in at all.
And that's why we're playing for charity!
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
This too
By the end of Jennings's run, they started giving his opponents more time with the buzzer to practice than usual, to try and counteract his experience with them.
The buzz-in speed thing is a huge deal, it can easily decide who wins. If two contestants have roughly similar knowledge, it will decide who wins. So unless they put some work into ensuring that the computer didn't have an advantage there, the whole thing would be somewhat silly.
EDIT: Though really it would just be about programming in a "reaction time;" having it search while the question is read is fair game.
And it seemed to me that it learned a bit. For a lot of the early "Name The Decade" questions, Watson had some secondary choices that weren't decades, they were random things like names or people. Then it gradually switched all it's choices to predominately years, and then finally to predominately decades.
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Why not just read the thread after you have watched it? Sounds silly I know.
I love Watson, I totes want him to win
:^:
All in all amazing step towards some actually intelligent AI.
I never asked for this!
I can understand that with Deep Blue, due to the type of game chess is. Watson seems like a giant step forward from what the Deep Blue computer was capable of though. Its hard to see how its cheating at Jeopardy though when a human can put emotions and real world experience behind words, whereas Watson can only look through text after text.
they've already taught it to love
Great.
Next it'll learn to hate.
Worse possibility? It may start pondering its own existence.
Then?
Rampant.
Why I fear the ocean.
Might be fun.
But naming them all Watson? Confusing. Let's leave that name to the original. New ones need new names.
Let's see. A scientist wouldn't be a bad chance. Let's go with an astronomer. Seeing the stars and suchlike. Tycho Brahe seems fitting considering where we're posting.
Maybe an inanimate object for the second. Sword of legend or something for intimidation. Not Excalibur or Cortana, too cliche. Maybe Roland's sword. Indestructability of learning or summat.
And why not a girl name for the third one, add some diversity. Let's go with a Doctor Who reference. Cavewoman was Leela, right? For the double Futurama reference points.
Should be an interesting set-up.
Why I fear the ocean.
So just remember when Skynet is sending wave after wave of exoskeletons to wipe out your human resistance cell, your only hope is Cheer with colorguard.
Ken buzzes in no matter what!
EDIT: In all seriousness though it would be fascinating to watch how each of them computes the question and checks out data and the like. Would they all come up with the exact same answers, buzz in at the exact same instances? Or is there enough variability that they'd come up with a wider range of solutions?
They said at one point they're playing two games over three days. I figure the first two days will probably be one game, in order to have plenty of time to talk about the technology, and the third day will likely be a complete game.
They would have to program some kind of personality into each to give them any kind of variability.
Hey, entropy. We're back at the joke I made earlier.
It doesn't actually hear anything, so has no way to "know" what the other contestants answered.
Yeah, between Watson and the other guy (who actually held his own with Watson), Ken started trying to game the system just by being the first to buzz in. Kind of fun to watch him pull the right answer out of nowhere when he clearly didn't know it before buzzing in (but he still didn't end up doing too well).
Did the other guy beat Ken in any of those tournaments he won?