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[Gay Rights] Scott Walker still trying to get fired.

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    BamaBama Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Bama wrote: »
    Yes, damn those "breeders" for trying to get some money for his mistake babies from his previous life.
    Could you try not to be such an amazingly silly goose? I mean... this is maybe the most painfully stupid thing I've read this week and I hope it retains the title. This is a shitty thing to do to a spouse, period, do you agree?

    ...That part is clearly a joke.
    Then I retract only the last sentence of my previous post, and only because I no longer care.

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    AtomikaAtomika Live fast and get fucked or whatever Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Reading the actual story now, it seems that the widow was indeed pre-op when she got married. If she got married in Texas, she probably doesn't have a case.


    Not that this isn't a strong argument against LGBT discrimination laws, but as it stands I fear the case may be fairly closed.

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    lizard eats flieslizard eats flies Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Bama wrote: »
    Yes, damn those "breeders" for trying to get some money for his mistake babies from his previous life.
    Could you try not to be such an amazingly silly goose? I mean... this is maybe the most painfully stupid thing I've read this week and I hope it retains the title. This is a shitty thing to do to a spouse, period, do you agree?

    ...That part is clearly a joke.

    Of course the most recent spouse should get a fair cut, that's what I'm saying. Courts tend to give money to kids though and the side with the best lawyer usually does win out in these sorts of things when big money is involved, though this is nothing compared to some of the big celebrity type cases.

    One of my dearest friends is a post op tranny and she is the one who told me to call her that. I guess she is just owning the title. I don't see it as anything other than a short form of transexual, but I guess others don't see it that way.

    Tranny is pretty much similar to using the word faggot. So, while your trans friend may have told you to use that for her, it shouldn't be used in a more general context.

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    TurkeyTurkey So, Usoop. TampaRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
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    Tranny is a derogatory term now? People are way too sensitive nowadays

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    AtomikaAtomika Live fast and get fucked or whatever Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Koshian wrote: »
    Turkey wrote: »
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    Tranny is a derogatory term now? People are way too sensitive nowadays

    Is this a joke? Like, for real? What would make you think a word used mostly by the porn industry to dehumanize & objectify transpeople wouldn't be offensive?

    Is there any gender or race that the porn industry doesn't objectify?


    Let's not make mountains of molehills here. "Tranny" probably isn't the preferred nomenclature, but it's a damn sight better than "faggot," or "queer."

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    TurkeyTurkey So, Usoop. TampaRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Koshian wrote: »
    Turkey wrote: »
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    Tranny is a derogatory term now? People are way too sensitive nowadays

    Is this a joke? Like, for real? What would make you think a word used mostly by the porn industry to dehumanize & objectify transpeople wouldn't be offensive?

    I don't know any transsexuals in person so I have no idea what would offend one. I was pretty surprised at the response XoB got. It took me a few posts to get that people weren't responding to his use of the term "breeders".

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    BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Oh boy oh boy is it time to tell people that they're dumb for being offended by words that you're not offended by?

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    AtomikaAtomika Live fast and get fucked or whatever Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Blackjack wrote: »
    Oh boy oh boy is it time to tell people that they're dumb for being offended by words that you're not offended by?

    And deprive them of the deep joy they receive from becoming offended on the behalf of others?


    Monster.

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    Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Koshian wrote: »
    Turkey wrote: »
    D:
    Tranny is a derogatory term now? People are way too sensitive nowadays

    Is this a joke? Like, for real? What would make you think a word used mostly by the porn industry to dehumanize & objectify transpeople wouldn't be offensive?

    Is there any gender or race that the porn industry doesn't objectify?


    Let's not make mountains of molehills here. "Tranny" probably isn't the preferred nomenclature, but it's a damn sight better than "faggot," or "queer."
    No, this is a huge mountain. That term is for transgender people, gay people's version of faggot. It carries all the hate with it and LGB cissexual people probably use it more than the regular public, and only as a derogatory term. It is not a friendly term. Drag queens use it, and while they are gender variant, they are in safe spaces, not walking down the street as the opposite gender. Even this is skirting offensive territory.

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    Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    And on "tranny" fetishes, imagine you have worked all the way past SRS or are finally fully presenting, only to have a super super creepy group of "tranny-chasers" sexualize your very identity to the point where you have to aggressively monitor your internet profiles, because of the creepers. This is a real problem.

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    TurkeyTurkey So, Usoop. TampaRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    And on "tranny" fetishes, imagine you have worked all the way past SRS or are finally fully presenting, only to have a super super creepy group of "tranny-chasers" sexualize your very identity to the point where you have to aggressively monitor your internet profiles, because of the creepers. This is a real problem.

    Is this a thing? A google search doesn't make them look any creepier than any other group with a fetish.

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    AtomikaAtomika Live fast and get fucked or whatever Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    That's fine, I just don't much cotton to people getting offending on the behalf of others. It's not a culturally unacceptable word, it can be said on TV without editing. Be offended if it offends you.

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    mythagomythago Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Libertarians, by the tenets of objectivism, are all about gay rights.

    Okay, I get it: you're just fucking with me now. Nobody smart enough to understand the No True Scotsman fallacy would try this silly goosery except to troll.

    Texas seems a little slow on the uptake. What do they think they're going to do when a same-sex couple shows up to get married and one of them is transgendered?

    "Ma'am, we don't issue marriage licenses to two women. You have to be a woman and a man."

    "Here's my birth certificate. As you can see I was born male but I transitioned and now I'm female."

    "Oh, okay. Here's your marriage license."

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    Curly_BraceCurly_Brace Robot Girl Mimiga VillageRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Turkey wrote: »
    And on "tranny" fetishes, imagine you have worked all the way past SRS or are finally fully presenting, only to have a super super creepy group of "tranny-chasers" sexualize your very identity to the point where you have to aggressively monitor your internet profiles, because of the creepers. This is a real problem.

    Is this a thing? A google search doesn't make them look any creepier than any other group with a fetish.

    It is a problem because the use of the word "tranny" by the porn industry, paired with their depiction of transgender people, dehumanizes them to the extreme. It carries behind it a combination of revulsion, fascination and entitlement. So-called "tranny-chasers" are often aggressive and some even attempt to harass or blackmail in exchange for sex. Many of these "tranny-chasers" don't seem them as women*, but as mere fetish objects which belong to them. The porn industry is happy to cater to this, because that's what they do to make money.

    There are two other points to be made, however: For one there are people who are attracted to trans individuals who are respectful and generally good people. i.e. not cisgender men who look down upon and objectify trans people.

    Also, apparently the word "tranny" is not seen as very derogatory in the UK, according to a few LGBT folks I've talked to there. This might not be the truth, however, but I just wanted to mention their opinion on it.

    (*I think "tranny-chasers" mostly are attracted to Male-to-Female transsexuals, but I might be wrong. Unsurprisingly there is not a lot of research on this topic. Also, there are other derogatory terms for Male-to-Female transsexuals used by the porn industry but I won't mention them here because some are blatantly pornographic.)

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    StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited May 2011
    I totally know what's it is like to be a transperson (despite not being one), and thus reserve the right to judge a word's appropriateness.

    Or maybe I'll take their goddamn word for it. Seriously, Ross, you're using TV as a judge? Because TV is going to be even remotely up-to-speed on LGBT issues.

    If you let it slide because it's not "culturally unacceptable" then it will never become culturally unacceptable. You are just permitting slurs.

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    The Muffin ManThe Muffin Man Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    And on "tranny" fetishes, imagine you have worked all the way past SRS or are finally fully presenting, only to have a super super creepy group of "tranny-chasers" sexualize your very identity to the point where you have to aggressively monitor your internet profiles, because of the creepers. This is a real problem.

    Yeah it's kind of like being a woman.
    Or a fat person.
    Or a bodybuilder.
    Or having long hair.
    Or having SHORT hair.
    Or being tall.
    Or being short.
    Or being hairy.
    Or being clean shaven.
    Or being blonde.
    Or being a red-head.
    Or...

    I think you get my point. Yes, trans-people have a lot of troubles in their day-to-day lives being attacked, assaulted, insulted, or otherwise abused and it's completely unfair that they have to put up with some of this shit.
    But online, especially with fetishists? Come on. If we start insisting that a group needs to "monitor their activity closely" because people fetishize them, we better tell...well, you can see my list above.


    Oh no, people on the internet have a fetish! How weird and dangerous!

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    NATIKNATIK DenmarkRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Druk wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    MuddBudd wrote: »
    Also, the NYT has enlisted the help of an anonymous blogger to document his perspective as DADT is repealed.

    "Don't Ask, Don't Tell": A Gay Officer Witnesses Its End
    As with any other conversation about gays in a setting where I am not “out,” I found myself reverting to old defense mechanisms. I tried to laugh, but not too hard. I listened intently while trying to look as if I was barely paying attention. I looked to see how everyone else was reacting only to mimic their posture, their level of attentiveness, and their own reactions to the conversation.

    This is the best summary of being closeted I've read in a while. Good stuff. Thanks, MuddBudd.

    I dunno, it seems to me that if you've been brought up and spent time in a situation for a long while where you're not "out", it should be pretty easy to mimic what's going on without concentrating too hard on it. Especially if you're not being directly addressed and put on the spot. While not quite the same thing, I don't have to revert to any "defense mechanisms" if the topic of religion comes up when I'm hiding my atheism from a group.

    (I encourage anyone who's dealt with being closeted to chime in here)

    Easy to mimic sure, even from experience, but the extreme vulnerability you feel in that situation makes you hyper aware of everything you and everyone around you say and do, so you are going to spend a lot of energy trying to be perfectly "invisible" or "normal" even if you have done it a million times before.

    It is like trying to act "casual" on demand, because you are so aware of how you act, it is surprisingly hard.

    So many thoughts, emotions and fears are running through you in such a situation that every single action you take is being infinitely thought over and carefully made, everything you do makes you think "oh fuck did I give something away there". My personal reaction has always been the one of the friend in the article, total shutdown unless directly approached on the subject, though that in itself causes worries over whether that gives something away.

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    SaraLunaSaraLuna Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    And on "tranny" fetishes, imagine you have worked all the way past SRS or are finally fully presenting, only to have a super super creepy group of "tranny-chasers" sexualize your very identity to the point where you have to aggressively monitor your internet profiles, because of the creepers. This is a real problem.

    Yeah it's kind of like being a woman.
    Or a fat person.
    Or a bodybuilder.
    Or having long hair.
    Or having SHORT hair.
    Or being tall.
    Or being short.
    Or being hairy.
    Or being clean shaven.
    Or being blonde.
    Or being a red-head.
    Or...

    I think you get my point. Yes, trans-people have a lot of troubles in their day-to-day lives being attacked, assaulted, insulted, or otherwise abused and it's completely unfair that they have to put up with some of this shit.
    But online, especially with fetishists? Come on. If we start insisting that a group needs to "monitor their activity closely" because people fetishize them, we better tell...well, you can see my list above.


    Oh no, people on the internet have a fetish! How weird and dangerous!

    No. The difference is that chasers usually only have experience interacting with trans people in the context of porn and/or sex work. It's entirely objectification.
    A person with say, a redhead fetish, still sees her as a woman and a person. Not an elaborate sex toy to be used before returning to the world of "real" women.

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    TurkeyTurkey So, Usoop. TampaRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    A creepy person will usually objectify their target regardless of what fetish they have.

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    CervetusCervetus Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    As somebody who doesn't personally know any transgendered people on a face-to-face basis (but has a transgendered internet friend) I am completely willing to stop using "tranny" as a term if it is indeed offensive, but unlike "faggot" it is follows standard English affectionate abbreviation rules from the "transgendered" label that is officially preferred, so if someone uses the offensive term please to be patient as we may not all know how much it hurts you.

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    StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited May 2011
    Let's put it this way.

    You're a mother. Do you want people calling you a milf in casual conversation? All the time?

    I imagine that's how tranny comes across.

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    surrealitychecksurrealitycheck lonely, but not unloved dreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    You're a mother. Do you want people calling you a milf in casual conversation? All the time?

    wait i've always found mothers react to this rather well

    >.>

    <.<

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    AtomikaAtomika Live fast and get fucked or whatever Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    mythago wrote: »
    Libertarians, by the tenets of objectivism, are all about gay rights.

    Okay, I get it: you're just fucking with me now. Nobody smart enough to understand the No True Scotsman fallacy would try this silly goosery except to troll.

    Hey, people can self-identify with whatever fallacious qualifier they want. Large numbers or obstinance doesn't somehow magically legitimize their claim.

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    poshnialloposhniallo Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Koshian wrote: »
    Yes, damn those "breeders" for trying to get some money for his mistake babies from his previous life.

    Shit like this happens all the time and usually the side with the best lawyer wins. Having a tranny in the mix doesn't help but courts are pretty big on giving children money.

    Can you not use that word? Its pretty horrifically offensive and you should probably cut it out of your vocabulary entirely

    I'm also quite surprised - but I'm not American and I don't have any friends who are transexual. Is tranny really such a horribly offensive word? For me it was always just the short way to say transvestite. I don't know anything about porn, so it's not come from the porn industry, and in fact I'm quite old and have been using the word that way for about 30 years or so.

    I don't want to offend you, but it is possible that people are using that word differently in different sociolinguistic contexts and that for many, both straight and GLBT, it isn't an offensive term.

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    DrukDruk Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    NATIK wrote: »
    ... the extreme vulnerability you feel in that situation makes you hyper aware of everything you and everyone around you say and do...every single action you take is being infinitely thought over and carefully made, everything you do makes you think "oh fuck did I give something away there"

    Hm, seems like my situation isn't as analogous as I thought it was. I understand the concept of being hyper-aware of everything you do, because that's how I functioned in high school just trying to not be outcast for any reason whatsoever. But I don't react like that with regard to my lack of religion.
    Any thoughts on why the situations are so different? I seriously believe I risk being disowned if I let my parents know my beliefs (not as big a deal now that I'm an adult), so I don't think the difference is one of worry about consequences.

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    SaraLunaSaraLuna Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Getting disowned for being an atheist would be be unpleasant.
    But not as unpleasant as being beaten to death or near death by any random stranger for being gay/trans.

    If your boss finds out you're an athiest, work might get more unpleasant but you can't be fired for it. In most places orientation/gender presentation aren't protected classes so your fundie boss is removing your source of income instead of just being a dick.

    It is a matter of consequences, and the ones for being outed as lgbt are potentially much, much worse.

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    DrukDruk Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Those consequences don't seem to be relevant to hiding sexual orientation in a setting where your boss is telling everyone to accept people's sexual orientation, though. Are these soldiers really worried about being beaten to death?

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    SaraLunaSaraLuna Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Well, for one, we were talking about being closeted in general. And two, they're still in training for the repeal - it's not in effect yet.

    And even though the repeal was passed the military was still a dangerous place to be out for a long time before that. Just getting fired was the best case scenario. I don't expect every gay soldier will be slapping a rainbow patch on their uniform and loudly proclaiming that they were there all along at the very first opportunity to do so.

    Note: I haven't served in the military, so I'm not an expert on that. I have, however been an atheist in the south for 10+ years & have never faced a consequence worse than an annoying 3 minute lecture after being "outed" in that regard.

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    MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Well, for one, we were talking about being closeted in general. And two, they're still in training for the repeal - it's not in effect yet.

    And even though the repeal was passed the military was still a dangerous place to be out for a long time before that. Just getting fired was the best case scenario. I don't expect every gay soldier will be slapping a rainbow patch on their uniform and loudly proclaiming that they were there all along at the very first opportunity to do so.

    Note: I haven't served in the military, so I'm not an expert on that. I have, however been an atheist in the south for 10+ years & have never faced a consequence worse than an annoying 3 minute lecture after being "outed" in that regard.

    Three minutes? Is this like a relative or something? If people start lecturing me I usually wander off.

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    Orochi_RockmanOrochi_Rockman __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2011
    I have to stay closeted at work. If would lose my job otherwise, and I might even get harassed or jumped by former co-workers and/or employees to boot.

    Its not hard for me to do, I don't have to watch my behavior or what I say out of fear of outing myself. I just don't talk about my home life.

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    ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I have to stay closeted at work. If would lose my job otherwise, and I might even get harassed or jumped by former co-workers and/or employees to boot.

    Its not hard for me to do, I don't have to watch my behavior or what I say out of fear of outing myself. I just don't talk about my home life.

    It's when the topic comes up that the fear kicks in.

    If you never talk about it, you don't have to deal with it.

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    SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    My girlfriend just sent me this: http://www.tennessean.com/article/20110523/NEWS02/110523033/Haslam-reverses-Metro-s-anti-discrimination-law

    This is in my state, but I'm somewhat confused. Did he just make it legal to discriminate against LBGT people?

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    lizard eats flieslizard eats flies Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    poshniallo wrote: »
    Koshian wrote: »
    Yes, damn those "breeders" for trying to get some money for his mistake babies from his previous life.

    Shit like this happens all the time and usually the side with the best lawyer wins. Having a tranny in the mix doesn't help but courts are pretty big on giving children money.

    Can you not use that word? Its pretty horrifically offensive and you should probably cut it out of your vocabulary entirely

    I'm also quite surprised - but I'm not American and I don't have any friends who are transexual. Is tranny really such a horribly offensive word? For me it was always just the short way to say transvestite. I don't know anything about porn, so it's not come from the porn industry, and in fact I'm quite old and have been using the word that way for about 30 years or so.

    I don't want to offend you, but it is possible that people are using that word differently in different sociolinguistic contexts and that for many, both straight and GLBT, it isn't an offensive term.

    Yeah it is really offensive. And in general I dont get upset when people use it unknowingly... its when I tell them "hey its offensive" and they argue and try and tell me its not.

    When I hear the term tranny, these are the things it brings to mind for me personally:
    - Being in a place of extreme self hate and on the brink of suicide
    - My friend who was beaten and robbed and sexually assulted all while being called a tranny
    - Being told that I should just kill myself because I was a fucking tranny.
    - Being sexually assulted while being called a tranny
    - Being denied bathroom access.
    - Being harassed at a Pride event by gay men, while using the term.
    - Being seen as ONLY a fetish object, a pervert, a prostitute.
    - Being physically threatened
    - Being told that its ok to punch a tranny if she didnt reveal her trans status early enough in a dating situation
    - Being told I am mentally ill
    - Being reduced completely to my trans status.
    - Having my body become public property.
    - Being told that I should be killed for being such a tranny freak.

    I could go on. These are all things I have personally experienced where the word tranny was involved. It is incredibly dehumanizing and often used out of hate. So in response to the people who say I should have thicker skin or just not get offended, please read the above list. Because when you ask me not to get offended by the word tranny, you are asking me to suppress all of that experience because you 'didnt mean it like that'.

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    Orochi_RockmanOrochi_Rockman __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2011
    Elldren wrote: »
    I have to stay closeted at work. If would lose my job otherwise, and I might even get harassed or jumped by former co-workers and/or employees to boot.

    Its not hard for me to do, I don't have to watch my behavior or what I say out of fear of outing myself. I just don't talk about my home life.

    It's when the topic comes up that the fear kicks in.

    If you never talk about it, you don't have to deal with it.

    I talk about my likes and dislikes and what I did over the weekend in slightly vague terms. I'm never grilled about it.

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    tinwhiskerstinwhiskers Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    My girlfriend just sent me this: http://www.tennessean.com/article/20110523/NEWS02/110523033/Haslam-reverses-Metro-s-anti-discrimination-law

    This is in my state, but I'm somewhat confused. Did he just make it legal to discriminate against LBGT people?

    No, its much worse than that. It made it illegal to make LGBT discrimination illegal. Basically town/cities not full of cousin fuckers, can no longer say 'you can't discriminate if you do contract work for us'.

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    ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    - Being told that its ok to punch a tranny if she didnt reveal her trans status early enough in a dating situation

    ugh

    I remember that thread

    that was not a happy thread

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    ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    My girlfriend just sent me this: http://www.tennessean.com/article/20110523/NEWS02/110523033/Haslam-reverses-Metro-s-anti-discrimination-law

    This is in my state, but I'm somewhat confused. Did he just make it legal to discriminate against LBGT people?

    No, its much worse than that. It made it illegal to make LGBT discrimination illegal. Basically town/cities not full of cousin fuckers, can no longer say 'you can't discriminate if you do contract work for us'.

    It is working to erase what islands of tolerance exist in this state

    In fact, it's more or less specifically targeting Nashville

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    SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    As a person who is tolerant of all but is also a straight white male, what can I do to fight that? The whole thing seemed very complicated. Especially with the Chamber of Commerce saying it supported it originally, but then once it became a diversity issue (even though the wording of the laws were the same?) they are now opposed as they support tolerance. At least that's what that article says. It seems there was the guise of the regulation being related to states rights rather than a tolerance issue originally.

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    lizard eats flieslizard eats flies Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Elldren wrote: »
    - Being told that its ok to punch a tranny if she didnt reveal her trans status early enough in a dating situation

    ugh

    I remember that thread

    that was not a happy thread

    Sadly, Ive been told this at least a half dozen times, that thread being only one of them...

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    Orochi_RockmanOrochi_Rockman __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2011
    Pretty much what Tinwhiskers said. As far as protections that GLBT persons have against discrimination in the state of Tennessee, state wide laws are the only ones that can be enforced now. Now, no city is allowed to pass a law giving GLBT people any more protection than the State does. Even if hell froze over and every single resident of Chattanooga wanted to make a law offering them better protections, they could not.

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