So there's a thread that's going on trying to shoot down the OP's... opinion (arguably) on how old games suck, and here I present to the good people here a thread to discuss old games on all consoles, the good ones, the bad ones, the painful ones. Undeniably, most, if not all of our fondest gaming memories in gaming has to do with old, if not ancient games, and while I don't consider myself old by any means, I've played a fair share of old games through Freeware releases or bargain bin buys; although some of the old games are honestly becoming a little bit unplayable.
I just bought myself Starlancer which in my opinion is mindblowingly awesome with Co-Op, downloaded both Hidden & Dangerous and Ground Control [both free to download], rebought Final Fantasy 7 and 9. These are a few examples of the huge amount of awesomeness that old games hold, if one is willing to overlook innovations or graphical improvements that has conquered the gaming world (sorta). [Though honestly, H&D is bordering on unplayable with its limited draw distances].
Anyway, old games still rock. Some of them suck. But most of them rock.
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Also, I didn't play FFVII until I bought a PS2 (my brother and I had an N64 instead of a PSX), and I liked it, but I think playing it late took away some of the wow factor. 3D wasn't new anymore, and as early 3D games go FFVII is pretty ugly.
The retro games that I continually go back to are the old school platformers. Super Mario Bros. 2 and 3 (I've never beaten 1...World 8 can fuck right off), Super Mario World, and Sonic 2, 3, and Knuckles (I loved 1 when it came out, but I miss the spin dash when I go to replay it).
Why aren't platformers as good now as they were then? Don't get me wrong, I loves me some Sly Cooper, but it's not quite the same. And I liked Jak and Daxter and Ratchet & Clank, too, but they're more about gunplay than platforming.
Also, some old games never got new games that made them obsolete. Xcom is a perfect example because even xcom Apoclypse screwed up the formula that was genius from the first two IMHO of course. Every Xcom clone thats come out in the last 3-4 years, and there have been alot, have all had glaring differences that subtract from the experiance, and didn't make me think the game was really all that good, just another half assed attempt.
But yea, my current play list right now is Xcom: TFTD, Age of Wonders: Shadow Magic, MegaMek.Net (woot BAttletech), and an online game of Sorcerors Crusade I am playing with friends back in the states via ventrillo and OpenRPG. I don't believe in Oblivion you can be a Playboy Thief that uses Time and physical magic to finance his fake noble background, while stopping evil forces and their various evil plots.
I bought it back in the day. Great game.
Anyway, I play a fair mixture. I'll still hold Planescape: Torment, Fallout 2, Sonic 3&K and unheard-of classics like Giants and Sacrifice over many games.
FF9 though, which was mentioned, is easy in my top 5 all time for excellent games
Also, I've been playing Wolfenstein 3-D lately. Up to ep4. Still pretty fun although i miss the traditional mouse and keyboard setup of today's FPS. Xbox 360 controller for the save!
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I shall repeat this until someone else plays it.
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Also, despite them being ported to everything under the sun, I've only recently discovered the old Resident Evil games, and I'm having a blast. Too bad Umbrella Chronicles had to go the route it did.
I like all 3, but 7 is undoubtedly the weakest.
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How old does a game have to be to be considered "old"?
My Collection
Simon the Sorcerer
Sam & Max
Loom
Monkey Island
Basically any adventure game back in the days of DOS. Why the genre hasn't been kickstarted into next gen is beyond me. We have a few every now and then, but overall it's slim pickings.
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I think the problem with platformers now is the prerequisite that every game now needs to be 3D, because "teh kidz" don't go for 2D graphics anymore. Games like Ratchet and Clank and Jak and Daxter excel as examples of the genre in recent years, but they focus more on combat than difficult jumping/navigating.
I don't know about you, but a common complaint I hear from people about 3D is that they have trouble judging perspective and/or distance in a 3D landscape, so the harder jumps and obstacles in games like R&T or J&D give your average gamer more trouble than they might have in a 2D game. I think this might be what forces developers to concentrate less on platforming and more on other aspects of the game to flesh it out.
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My favorite platformers where the ToeJam & Earl games and E.V.O. though I guess E.V.O. isn't really that old.
Then for flight(ish) sims, there's the Red Baron/Aces series from Dynamix (Sierra); the MechWarrior games (which I thought had unbelievable 3D at the time); Star Wars: X Wing, Imperial Pursuits, and B-Wing.
The only FPS I can remember playing were Wolfenstein, Blake Stone, and eventually Doom. There was a great star wars FPS called Dark Forces or something like that, but that didn't come around until later.
The NES version was utter shit compared to the original MSX version, which MGS3: Subsistence had a Cell Phone port of.
Hell yeah. I loved all the Quest games, Indiana Jones, Sam & Max, Day of the Tentacle... Also, "Circle of Blood" was a great game (the first of the Broken Sword series), although I never played any of the sequels...
Has anyone played the re-release anthologies of the Kings Quest/Space Quest/Police Quest games that they put out for WinXP? Do they work?
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I heard they were the DOS versions and it just used DosBox.
I had (it might still be at my parents' house) the Space Quest collection. It ran wonderfully under XP.
I miss Sierra adventure games. They should make more.
Space Ace
Dragon's Lair
Leisure Suit Larry
Street Fighter
Mission Impossible
Wow, I didn't know that they re-released the Police Quest games. I'll have to check on that.
What is it about them that you think sucks? I've, admittedly, only played the Space Quest Collection, but I loved it. All the games were there, and they all ran great on my XP computer.
Sure, it didn't come with a shit ton of extras, but I didn't need extras. I just wanted to play the games.
There was something wrong with the King's Quest collection too, but Wiki says nothing about it.
So many awesome old games. I love so many of them.
Oh, King's Quest VI and Leisure Suit Larry VGA also hold a special place in my heart.
I loved Metal Gear on NES, it's like a high-tech Zelda. It's the only Metal Gear I've really liked.
I didn't notice any poor production values, but Wiki is right that the compilations were fairly bare-bones. I didn't mind though because I had versions of some of my favorite games that worked on modern computers. How anybody could bitch about lack of extras when you get 5 or 6 games, though, is beyond me.
To each their own I suppose, but if you're a fan of the various Sierra adventure series I think you'll have a good time with the compilations.
The SNES is still probably my favorite system of all time, it had good sound, and could do just enough in the graphics department that even now the spirte based games can be pleasing to the eye, but couldn't 'wow' with just graphics, so the gameplay had to be really good to have staying power.
I am a freaking nerd.
Leaving out better versions of games.
Including only pdf manuals, leaving the copy protection in and leaving the wrong manual on the disc so you'll have to Google for it to get past the copy protection...
If you're a fan of Sierra adventure series, you'll cry when you see how little respect Sierra now has for them.
I was hugely disappointed by FF8, but I did still take the time to finish it completely. I thought FF9 was amazing. So I dunno, I have weird tastes.
I don't hate it, but I don't think it's really anything special either.
To be fair, my first FF was 8, then I played X, and then I went back and played VII. The only thing I really hated about it was that damned submarine minigame.
Okay, yeah... that Submarine game was pretty lame. But the Motorcycle scene made up for that. In my opinion... of course.
I think the people that hate it... played it too late. I mean, there's nothing really, REALLY special about the game... except that it's the first good 3D RPG out for the PS1. That and it has a HUGE nostalgia factor to it... to me anyway.
Not sure if you know this, but this was released on the Wii's VC.
It's still balls hard though. :P
Aidyn Chronicles, Ogres Battle, Tetrisphere and Battlezone Rise of the black dogs- Are all games that took an old idea and improved it, even if its been perfected since then.
The only thing I see wrong with King's Quest so far, is that for KQVI, they felt the need to change the portrait graphics. The DOS version I have has these beautiful portraits of all the characters as they talk, this version has some cheap 16bit redesign.
Nothing big...just one of the most important damn features of the game IMHO
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my old game http://www.justadventure.com/reviews/KQ6/kq65.jpg
the 'new' version http://free-game-downloads.mosw.com/ss/6792_0.png
(hopefully the images load for you guys, as they're blocked at work for me.)
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SNES is the only "old games" system I still play with any regularity. I just gotta pop in Star Fox or Donkey Kong Country or Yoshi's Island or Super Mario World every now and again.
Contra 3 is actually pretty easy for me -- just because I've played it a million times.
I think everyone should just agree that FF 7-9 are still leaps and bounds above most of the other PS1 RPG's, so we should love them and accept their nuances differences. But Ff 7 is still better.
Watch out for Link's Awakening, too. As a kid, I broke my ghetto blaster gameboy by slamming my face into it while playing that game. That's some serious love/hate.