No, if Grafdigger's Cage was like a Leyline it would have been trolling, I think he means.
Exactly.
I'm not saying that ability makes a troll card. I'm saying that a card of that power with that ability tacked on might as well have included trollface.jpg somewhere in the art. It would've been hilarious.
Mental Misstep was a troll card.
That got banned incredibly fast in almost all formats.
There's gotta be a way with modern templating to do "Counter target spell if its mana cost was not paid" (or "counter any number of target spells if their mana costs were not paid") and "Destroy target creature that entered the battlefield this turn without being cast."
Give them Phyrexian mana costs, put them in the next Commander or Planechase product.
There, dredge & storm are dead in Legacy and you haven't screwed up other formats at all.
Y U NO DO THIS WIZARDS*
* assuming they actually want to kill dredge & storm
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every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
There's gotta be a way with modern templating to do "Counter target spell if its mana cost was not paid" (or "counter any number of target spells if their mana costs were not paid") and "Destroy target creature that entered the battlefield this turn without being cast."
Give them Phyrexian mana costs, put them in the next Commander or Planechase product.
There, dredge & storm are dead in Legacy and you haven't screwed up other formats at all.
Y U NO DO THIS WIZARDS*
* assuming they actually want to kill dredge & storm
Well, as I understand there are spells that hose storm pretty hard. There's an extremely low cost counterspell with storm, came out in commander, and also a trap that counters all spells if an opponent played more than three spells this turn.
Not sure the best way to kill dredge in counterspell form.
Can I ask why? I assume you saw the new token card preview.
a combination of aesthetics and disliking gamefeel both with and against tokens.
they clog the battlefield, they're not real creatures, and they make combat math grindier.
they encourage anthems (more irritating math) and they require sweepers to deal with while making spot removal worse.
combinations of indestructible and awful death triggers (like wurmcoil) make standard sort of oppressive to board control strategies
while making them necessary if you don't want to swing hordes into other hordes.
i prefer non-blue control elements (B/W discard/removal, not B/W token swarms)
and i feel like between flashback and all the creature keywords and tokens,
the games i enjoy playing in magic might not be happening much in this format.
Judging by the Stromkirk Captain and the Wolf lord guy, looks like we're getting a cycle of tribal lords. Looking forward to the zombie one. I've had half a Grimgrin EDH deck sitting around waiting for some more useful zombies to come my way. Maybe this way I can escape having to drop 10+ bucks on a Death Baron.
Oh so I don't like bragging? It makes me feel bad. Like Hank Hill in King of the Hill, feeling happy about stuff wiill only cause disaster later. But I'll try it anyways. Maybe try feeling happy? I'll try that out. *ahem*
So I did a draft today. They switched from mirrodin block to INN by popularity. My first pack had a foil Snapcaster Mage (and Mikeaus). So I got a foil snapcaster. Yay. After losing two rounds, and winning two rounds, it was over and I traded my foil for two Lilianas, and two dual lannds (w/b and w/r). I've never pulled a liliana out of 10 fat packs, 2? boxes, and several single packs, so finally having a lili (two!) was nice. Then I got 9th out of 14th, the last place to get a free pack (bottom five got promos). I picked INN and got flip Garruk. Joy. Yaaay draft.
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Eh. Helvault would be awesome if all the cards came back under your control but 7 mana for a repeatable oblivion ring?
so right now my plan is to helavut, acidic slime, invader parasite (exile slime), exile parasite + destroy helvat somehow. repeat. then seance them if they ever do die
different question, but aside from how stupid it is to pull off, how easy is it to destroy parallel lives + seance in the current meta?
Helvault will go nicely in my Zirilan of the Claw EDH. I recently found out Urabrask kind of sucks as a dragon-themed general, since he never lives long enough to actually matter. Zirilan can at least summon Dragon Mage or Dragon Tyrant for massive carnage. Helvault also keeps blue players from stealing my mans.
Now that I can read the DailyMTG site, it's amusing to see how Innistrad's story will play out. It's pretty obvious how Avacyn will be brought back, but the reason why this will happen is hilariously ironic.
Because Liliana has to bust open the Helvault to free one of the three (remaining) demons to whom she sold her soul so she can off him to effectively back out of their deal while still keeping her powers. Avacyn's in there too, as she was trapped in it while fighting said demon.
Sorin should strap a tracker device on her. There has to be some plane that has the technology and he's like a million years old.
The MTG multiverse is surprisingly low-tech on the whole. Or maybe not so surprisingly, given that they all harbor a ton of magic. Even artifacers power their devices with mana more often than not.
If we had magic we wouldn't have needed to develop technology either. :P
Because Liliana has to bust open the Helvault to free one of the three (remaining) demons to whom she sold her soul so she can off him to effectively back out of their deal while still keeping her powers. Avacyn's in there too, as she was trapped in it while fighting said demon.
That makes a ton of sense, actually.
every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
I really like the new three-drop Vampires, but RB vamps has a ton of three-drops already (Crossway, Bloodrage, Volt Charge, Brimstone) and not a lot at two (Bloodcrazed Neonate and Vampire Interloper, neither of which I'm in love with, and both are much worse than RDW's Stormblood Berserker.)
Stromkirk Captain is pretty nice, though, because it solves two problems with RB vamps - 1) we need better reasons to actually run a tribal deck and 2) it makes blocking more dangerous.
Also: Fling in limited with morbid is going to be hilarious.
every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
what to people think of desperate ravings? i found it used to good effect at draft yesterday. It's a good card advantage if you're both r/u and flashback it. and with instant you can use it at good times.
I pick it over Claustrophobia in my Burning Vengeance deck, so yeah. Soon there'll be a blue Burning Vengeance, so guess I can continue forcing this archetype.
There's gotta be a way with modern templating to do "Counter target spell if its mana cost was not paid" (or "counter any number of target spells if their mana costs were not paid") and "Destroy target creature that entered the battlefield this turn without being cast."
Give them Phyrexian mana costs, put them in the next Commander or Planechase product.
There, dredge & storm are dead in Legacy and you haven't screwed up other formats at all.
Y U NO DO THIS WIZARDS*
* assuming they actually want to kill dredge & storm
It's not that they want dredge/storm kiiled, but they wouldn't mind if those decks took fleshwounds. Traditionally, the "pillars of vintage" have been Bazaar (Dredge and other shenanigans), Mishra's Workshop (For cheap beefy men and disruption) and Dark Ritual (Storm) as your top tier decks, with some room for others, but those being the three biggest pillars. More recently we've seen Oath of Druids and Fish as legimate tier 1 decks, along with random stuff like GW, Goblins, etc.
The general feeling at WTC seems to be that they want to basically nerf some of the more miserable decks to play against. I'm not psyched about it, but it's not a travesty.
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Nice!
I hope to hell they reprint Goyf.
I'm loving all the new token cards. Flashback is great, will make it so much easier to recover from a board wipe.
oh h*ck
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I can see B/W tokens with Sorin becoming a deck. Not sure on how it would generate card advantage, but honor the pure/intangible virtue/sorin's emblems could make for hella strong tokens.
t1 doomed traveller/signal pest
t2 intangible virtue/honor the pure
t3 midnight haunting/new token card with flashback
t4 sorin
Throw in say oblivion ring/doom blade/go for the throat, and you're in business.
Totally want to splash green for Parallel Lives. I don't understand how that card isn't used more. At the very least, it'll break the back of any control deck that stabilizes at low life.
Totally want to splash green for Parallel Lives. I don't understand how that card isn't used more. At the very least, it'll break the back of any control deck that stabilizes at low life.
- Play Ghave.
- Play Parallel Lives.
- Try not to look too smug.
- Garner ire of everyone at table.
... yes, I'm aware this is even more true with Doubling Season. I am not paying $20 for one of those things.
First they came for the Muslims, and we said NOT TODAY, MOTHERFUCKER!
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That got banned incredibly fast in almost all formats.
Give them Phyrexian mana costs, put them in the next Commander or Planechase product.
There, dredge & storm are dead in Legacy and you haven't screwed up other formats at all.
Y U NO DO THIS WIZARDS*
* assuming they actually want to kill dredge & storm
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Well, as I understand there are spells that hose storm pretty hard. There's an extremely low cost counterspell with storm, came out in commander, and also a trap that counters all spells if an opponent played more than three spells this turn.
Not sure the best way to kill dredge in counterspell form.
i hate them.
i really, really do.
a combination of aesthetics and disliking gamefeel both with and against tokens.
they clog the battlefield, they're not real creatures, and they make combat math grindier.
they encourage anthems (more irritating math) and they require sweepers to deal with while making spot removal worse.
combinations of indestructible and awful death triggers (like wurmcoil) make standard sort of oppressive to board control strategies
while making them necessary if you don't want to swing hordes into other hordes.
i prefer non-blue control elements (B/W discard/removal, not B/W token swarms)
and i feel like between flashback and all the creature keywords and tokens,
the games i enjoy playing in magic might not be happening much in this format.
tokens are my fave thing
Oh so I don't like bragging? It makes me feel bad. Like Hank Hill in King of the Hill, feeling happy about stuff wiill only cause disaster later. But I'll try it anyways. Maybe try feeling happy? I'll try that out. *ahem*
So I did a draft today. They switched from mirrodin block to INN by popularity. My first pack had a foil Snapcaster Mage (and Mikeaus). So I got a foil snapcaster. Yay. After losing two rounds, and winning two rounds, it was over and I traded my foil for two Lilianas, and two dual lannds (w/b and w/r). I've never pulled a liliana out of 10 fat packs, 2? boxes, and several single packs, so finally having a lili (two!) was nice. Then I got 9th out of 14th, the last place to get a free pack (bottom five got promos). I picked INN and got flip Garruk. Joy. Yaaay draft.
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so right now my plan is to helavut, acidic slime, invader parasite (exile slime), exile parasite + destroy helvat somehow. repeat. then seance them if they ever do die
different question, but aside from how stupid it is to pull off, how easy is it to destroy parallel lives + seance in the current meta?
Look up a spell called "Nix," from Future Sight.
:?
The MTG multiverse is surprisingly low-tech on the whole. Or maybe not so surprisingly, given that they all harbor a ton of magic. Even artifacers power their devices with mana more often than not.
If we had magic we wouldn't have needed to develop technology either. :P
That makes a ton of sense, actually.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Stromkirk Captain is pretty nice, though, because it solves two problems with RB vamps - 1) we need better reasons to actually run a tribal deck and 2) it makes blocking more dangerous.
Also: Fling in limited with morbid is going to be hilarious.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
It's not that they want dredge/storm kiiled, but they wouldn't mind if those decks took fleshwounds. Traditionally, the "pillars of vintage" have been Bazaar (Dredge and other shenanigans), Mishra's Workshop (For cheap beefy men and disruption) and Dark Ritual (Storm) as your top tier decks, with some room for others, but those being the three biggest pillars. More recently we've seen Oath of Druids and Fish as legimate tier 1 decks, along with random stuff like GW, Goblins, etc.
The general feeling at WTC seems to be that they want to basically nerf some of the more miserable decks to play against. I'm not psyched about it, but it's not a travesty.
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Oh man good luck!
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/gloat
I'm loving all the new token cards. Flashback is great, will make it so much easier to recover from a board wipe.
t1 doomed traveller/signal pest
t2 intangible virtue/honor the pure
t3 midnight haunting/new token card with flashback
t4 sorin
Throw in say oblivion ring/doom blade/go for the throat, and you're in business.
what b/w tokens needs is bitterblossom
unban bitterblossom
hahahahahaha i almost typed that with a straight face
man i loved playing that deck
it was so good when you survived
- Play Ghave.
- Play Parallel Lives.
- Try not to look too smug.
- Garner ire of everyone at table.
... yes, I'm aware this is even more true with Doubling Season. I am not paying $20 for one of those things.
Ghave is an amazing general. You can pack the deck with so many game-ending combos and synergies. He is just out of control.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.