The problem with Jungle Fizz is his cooldowns are pretty long, so you need a tanky AD runeset. At least, thats what I've done. You use your W(added damage to auto attacks? I think it's W) mostly for the clears, but you need a good first leash.
8 EST, which is presumably 5 for at least some of y'all, yeah. So far as I know we're attempting a do-over on that swap idea, but we'll see if schuss is around to clarify.
Malphite can't EQ Irelia with impunity because she can bladesurge, stun(if he took her health lower than his, and get 2 or 3 true damage autos in easily. And she has sustain and he doesn't. Maybe a skill matchup, but most are.
You're forgetting that Malphite's E nerfs her AS something fierce. By the time she has significant true damage enough to overcome that, Malphite should have Philo and Glacial if he went that route, or he should have lots of Mpen and be absolutely chunking her every time she tries to go in on him.
Malphite E-Qs, I attack minions for 4 seconds, then go on him for a stun true damage trade then back out. Did he run too far away to go harass him back? Then he misses CS and I don't, and I sustain back on the minions. Also, if he wants to get in minions and E he'll push the lane and I'll happily freeze it hard just outside my turret. Skill matchup for sure.
Irelia's W + E + a hit won't deal significant damage past malphite's shield. You will lose every trade with malphite. "I'll just let myself get to low health against this towerdiving monster so I can stun him" isn't a good idea.
Against an Irelia additionally, Malphite gets to level up his E first instead of Q. This lets him get to midgame in a much better teamfight position than if he had to level Q.
I've beaten Malphite into the dirt as Irelia, so it's clearly not as easy you think. =P Early in the game E alone will almost break his shield even with just one rank, and if you do it right after his brutal strikes wears off, he's stunned and eats some true damage hits, which ignore all that pretty armor. If he was maxxing E I'd just build some early armor to win trades even more. He has no potential to kill me, and I can out sustain his damage and farm all day. Plus, he'll get ganked because I will just freeze the lane easily after he pushes it with E.
IME Jungle Fizz clears slowly, ganks poorly, and does little damage because he's forced to go tanky ad
He doesn't gank poorly, it just really requires his ult to do it. An ult up with fizz gank is pretty deadly. But, then you have some downtime unless you built a phage or something.
IME Jungle Fizz clears slowly, ganks poorly, and does little damage because he's forced to go tanky ad
He doesn't gank poorly, it just really requires his ult to do it. An ult up with fizz gank is pretty deadly. But, then you have some downtime unless you built a phage or something.
Needs to hit six to gank while other junglers need 2 is having poor ganks yes.
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Alright, Malphite jungle is my new joint. Solid ganks even without ult due to the Q, amazing ganks with ult, surprisingly good damage output, hard as heck to kill. What more can I ask for? With a randuin's, E, and frozen heart, he's a rock of enemy AD carry misery. I hope that skin that the art leaked for gets released, mmmm.
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So I'm going to take a complete gamble and guess that levelling Draven's spinning axe is poop, and you should really focus on the steroid and side push, right?
The thing is that his axe is a really good steroid for your auto-attack and you want to level it first
but
it's pretty common that you don't actually be wanting to catch it, which is where people slip up. They go "Oh I'm leveling his Q? And you can catch his Q? I guess I'd better catch it to maximize these points I put in it." It's fine as it is, without catching it. Catching is just a bonus you'll rarely have an opportunity for.
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Malphite can't EQ Irelia with impunity because she can bladesurge, stun(if he took her health lower than his, and get 2 or 3 true damage autos in easily. And she has sustain and he doesn't. Maybe a skill matchup, but most are.
You're forgetting that Malphite's E nerfs her AS something fierce. By the time she has significant true damage enough to overcome that, Malphite should have Philo and Glacial if he went that route, or he should have lots of Mpen and be absolutely chunking her every time she tries to go in on him.
Malphite E-Qs, I attack minions for 4 seconds, then go on him for a stun true damage trade then back out. Did he run too far away to go harass him back? Then he misses CS and I don't, and I sustain back on the minions. Also, if he wants to get in minions and E he'll push the lane and I'll happily freeze it hard just outside my turret. Skill matchup for sure.
Irelia's W + E + a hit won't deal significant damage past malphite's shield. You will lose every trade with malphite. "I'll just let myself get to low health against this towerdiving monster so I can stun him" isn't a good idea.
Against an Irelia additionally, Malphite gets to level up his E first instead of Q. This lets him get to midgame in a much better teamfight position than if he had to level Q.
I've beaten Malphite into the dirt as Irelia, so it's clearly not as easy you think. =P Early in the game E alone will almost break his shield even with just one rank, and if you do it right after his brutal strikes wears off, he's stunned and eats some true damage hits, which ignore all that pretty armor. If he was maxxing E I'd just build some early armor to win trades even more. He has no potential to kill me, and I can out sustain his damage and farm all day. Plus, he'll get ganked because I will just freeze the lane easily after he pushes it with E.
Build early armor to win trades? What? If he's maxing E or Q, all his damage is magic, you make no sense.
If he's pushing, also, you cannot both lifesteal back with autoattacks on creeps *and* freeze lane. It doesn't work like that.
Haha. 715 cs vs. 536 cs. haha...too gud. Assuming all 3 lanes sucked at last hitting, that's still close to 60 cs difference in each lane! That's what...10 waves? close to? I mean, Anivia v Anivia was pretty close on cs, so it's even more embarrassing than that!
GJ though, Skut. ^_^
I don't think that's bad at all. Fiora in a solo lane, put Brand or Pantheon in the other, matchup dependent. Taric makes everything a kill lane, and Annie has her shield and flamethrower. How'd it end up?
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8 EST, which is presumably 5 for at least some of y'all, yeah. So far as I know we're attempting a do-over on that swap idea, but we'll see if schuss is around to clarify.
I've beaten Malphite into the dirt as Irelia, so it's clearly not as easy you think. =P Early in the game E alone will almost break his shield even with just one rank, and if you do it right after his brutal strikes wears off, he's stunned and eats some true damage hits, which ignore all that pretty armor. If he was maxxing E I'd just build some early armor to win trades even more. He has no potential to kill me, and I can out sustain his damage and farm all day. Plus, he'll get ganked because I will just freeze the lane easily after he pushes it with E.
He doesn't gank poorly, it just really requires his ult to do it. An ult up with fizz gank is pretty deadly. But, then you have some downtime unless you built a phage or something.
This is going on my list of "Dumb things to try"
Needs to hit six to gank while other junglers need 2 is having poor ganks yes.
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The thing is that his axe is a really good steroid for your auto-attack and you want to level it first
but
it's pretty common that you don't actually be wanting to catch it, which is where people slip up. They go "Oh I'm leveling his Q? And you can catch his Q? I guess I'd better catch it to maximize these points I put in it." It's fine as it is, without catching it. Catching is just a bonus you'll rarely have an opportunity for.
If he's pushing, also, you cannot both lifesteal back with autoattacks on creeps *and* freeze lane. It doesn't work like that.
looks like no one else did either though..
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Haha. 715 cs vs. 536 cs. haha...too gud. Assuming all 3 lanes sucked at last hitting, that's still close to 60 cs difference in each lane! That's what...10 waves? close to? I mean, Anivia v Anivia was pretty close on cs, so it's even more embarrassing than that!
GJ though, Skut. ^_^
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I don't think that's bad at all. Fiora in a solo lane, put Brand or Pantheon in the other, matchup dependent. Taric makes everything a kill lane, and Annie has her shield and flamethrower. How'd it end up?
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