the last couple pages are a great example how how dumb the D&D alignment system was in 2nd-3rd ed.
In Original and 1st Ed they still had the excuse that the whole Law vs Chaos thing was straight out of 70s pulp fantasy (and especially Michael Moorcock).
Once they tried to have it make sense in general in 2nd ed it is crazy. The level of mental gymnastics required to justify D&D alignment in 2nd-3rd is absurd.
This is one of many things they fixed in 4th ed. Alignment is for supernatural beings and fanatics. Almost everyone is Unaligned.
A demon is evil. A priest trying to rip open a portal to the Shadowfell in order to summon Orcus is evil. The "bread thief" isn't evil. He's fucking unaligned. Just like the baker he stole the bread from and 99% of the other people in the city.
I don't think 2nd edition ever claimed that people committing poverty-motivated petty crime were evil aligned.
And a paladin who stopped such a crime by murdering a petty criminal would cease to be a paladin immediately.
- My dad turns the TV to the Hallmark Channel every time he gets the remote, then proceeds to read books on his tablet
- I really hate the Hallmark Channel
the last couple pages are a great example how how dumb the D&D alignment system was in 2nd-3rd ed.
In Original and 1st Ed they still had the excuse that the whole Law vs Chaos thing was straight out of 70s pulp fantasy (and especially Michael Moorcock).
Once they tried to have it make sense in general in 2nd ed it is crazy. The level of mental gymnastics required to justify D&D alignment in 2nd-3rd is absurd.
This is one of many things they fixed in 4th ed. Alignment is for supernatural beings and fanatics. Almost everyone is Unaligned.
A demon is evil. A priest trying to rip open a portal to the Shadowfell in order to summon Orcus is evil. The "bread thief" isn't evil. He's fucking unaligned. Just like the baker he stole the bread from and 99% of the other people in the city.
I don't think 2nd edition ever claimed that people committing poverty-motivated petty crime were evil aligned.
And a paladin who stopped such a crime by murdering a petty criminal would cease to be a paladin immediately.
I would think that would depend on the laws of the paladin's civilization yes? There have been plenty of civilizations throughout history whose laws demand death as punishment for theft.
- My dad turns the TV to the Hallmark Channel every time he gets the remote, then proceeds to read books on his tablet
- I really hate the Hallmark Channel
When my cable company took away Comedy Central they replaced it with the Hallmark Channel
Which if I'm being honest I would have found pretty funny had it happened to someone else
To this day I won't play evil characters in Bioware games.
I had this one terrible experience where a friend talked me into playing a dark side character for a second run at KotOR 1 and it was like nonononononononononononono
I only play evil in modern Bio. The writing is campy anyway, so why not go all in?
Does anyone else remember an article that floated about a while ago on Jazzybal about Love Actually?
It really bothers me. I think about it often. The fact that it starts, so self-assuredly with "I am about to ruin Love Actually for you" - which assumes that it is even something that can be ruined, but even worse that the article itself was sufficiently powerful that anyone who did like the movie would be moved against it. Which they shouldn't be because it was obviously stupid.
The first criticism was that it sought to establish Emma Thompson's character as a mean or otherwise hateful character so that she "deserved" her Alan Rickman's character's infidelity - as part of some greater cultural myth about who does and doesn't deserve to be punished. She sought to support this with the opening scene in which Liam Neeson's character is sad and among other things Thompson's recommends "You should cheer up, no one will want to shag you if you cry all the time" - which she styled as insensitive. But the only way you could have such an interpretation of the scene and the intent of the scene would be if you had literally never seen it only read it or suffered from an autistic spectrum disorder that rendered you incapable of identifying the emotional states and reactions of others - because it is manifestly NOT supported by the text, it's obviously a supportive joke between old friends and it's clear neither character interprets it as a malicious or inappropriate statement.
Never saw the article.
I unashamedly enjoy that film, because I used to watch it when I was really depressed while on deployment and it cheered me up. I rather doubt any article could ruin the film for me.
As for the scene with Emma Thompson and Liam Neeson, I find that an interesting scene because I think there is a lot of meaty subtextual stuff going on with her comment (which is definitely a well-intentioned comment and in no way meant to tear him down). For one thing, I feel like her advice to him is very culturally British. It's not something an American would say to their friend. That idea of not expressing too much emotion, keeping that stiff upper lip, and not being a sad sack even though his wife just died tragically at a young age.
I guess I can see why an American person watching the film might find the comment offensive. They'd be wrong. But I can see it. Particularly for young people in the United States, wearing your emotions -particularly when those emotions involve depression- on your sleeve is kind of what you do. And anyone telling you to suck it up is obviously worse than Hitler. But that's not the world that these characters, who are older and British, inhabit. Emoting excessively in public is not what you do.
Anyway, my favorite thing about the film was that it set out to show a bunch of different kinds of love, and each story felt honest, painful, and sweet (even if some of them were melodramatic which doesn't bother me).
also, I think the argument about pink not being a color is kind of hopelessly pedantic even by _J_ standards
it's a tint of red in terms of pigment, it's one of the four key pigments in print color. ok, yes, it's not on the primary and secondary color wheel but how reductive do we have to be? By your standards, there are what? ROY G BIV? cmon dude
To this day I won't play evil characters in Bioware games.
I had this one terrible experience where a friend talked me into playing a dark side character for a second run at KotOR 1 and it was like nonononononononononononono
I only play evil in modern Bio. The writing is campy anyway, so why not go all in?
Does anyone else remember an article that floated about a while ago on Jazzybal about Love Actually?
It really bothers me. I think about it often. The fact that it starts, so self-assuredly with "I am about to ruin Love Actually for you" - which assumes that it is even something that can be ruined, but even worse that the article itself was sufficiently powerful that anyone who did like the movie would be moved against it. Which they shouldn't be because it was obviously stupid.
The first criticism was that it sought to establish Emma Thompson's character as a mean or otherwise hateful character so that she "deserved" her Alan Rickman's character's infidelity - as part of some greater cultural myth about who does and doesn't deserve to be punished. She sought to support this with the opening scene in which Liam Neeson's character is sad and among other things Thompson's recommends "You should cheer up, no one will want to shag you if you cry all the time" - which she styled as insensitive. But the only way you could have such an interpretation of the scene and the intent of the scene would be if you had literally never seen it only read it or suffered from an autistic spectrum disorder that rendered you incapable of identifying the emotional states and reactions of others - because it is manifestly NOT supported by the text, it's obviously a supportive joke between old friends and it's clear neither character interprets it as a malicious or inappropriate statement.
Never saw the article.
I unashamedly enjoy that film, because I used to watch it when I was really depressed while on deployment and it cheered me up. I rather doubt any article could ruin the film for me.
As for the scene with Emma Thompson and Liam Neeson, I find that an interesting scene because I think there is a lot of meaty subtextual stuff going on with her comment (which is definitely a well-intentioned comment and in no way meant to tear him down). For one thing, I feel like her advice to him is very culturally British. It's not something an American would say to their friend. That idea of not expressing too much emotion, keeping that stiff upper lip, and not being a sad sack even though his wife just died tragically at a young age.
I guess I can see why an American person watching the film might find the comment offensive. They'd be wrong. But I can see it. Particularly for young people in the United States, wearing your emotions -particularly when those emotions involve depression- on your sleeve is kind of what you do. And anyone telling you to suck it up is obviously worse than Hitler. But that's not the world that these characters, who are older and British, inhabit. Emoting excessively in public is not what you do.
Anyway, my favorite thing about the film was that it set out to show a bunch of different kinds of love, and each story felt honest, painful, and sweet (even if some of them were melodramatic which doesn't bother me).
Apothe0sis
She's not actually telling him to suck it up.
She's saying "Chin up, dude. Come on, hang in there"
this fucking idiot should be fired from nbc- cdiff is caused by overuse of antibiotics, yes, but it's also cured by usage of first flagyl and vancomycin, both antibiotics, as well as encouraged usage of probiotics during treatment.
also, I think the argument about pink not being a color is kind of hopelessly pedantic even by _J_ standards
it's a tint of red in terms of pigment, it's one of the four key pigments in print color. ok, yes, it's not on the primary and secondary color wheel but how reductive do we have to be? By your standards, there are what? ROY G BIV? cmon dude
nah, he actually has a point there. There is no single wavelength of light which humans name Pink as is the case with many other colors. So if you define "color" by the wavelength of light (not a bad starting point) then pink is not a color.
What it shows is that definition of "color" is incomplete. You need to consider situations in which light of different wavelengths is being seen simultaneously.
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I now go to sleep and dream of next week were apparently none of this ever happened.
also, I think the argument about pink not being a color is kind of hopelessly pedantic even by _J_ standards
it's a tint of red in terms of pigment, it's one of the four key pigments in print color. ok, yes, it's not on the primary and secondary color wheel but how reductive do we have to be? By your standards, there are what? ROY G BIV? cmon dude
nah, he actually has a point there. There is no single wavelength of light which humans name Pink as is the case with many other colors. So if you define "color" by the wavelength of light (not a bad starting point) then pink is not a color.
What it shows is that definition of "color" is incomplete. You need to consider situations in which light of different wavelengths is being seen simultaneously.
No that's a terrible starting point and the definition of colour is not at all that
also, I think the argument about pink not being a color is kind of hopelessly pedantic even by _J_ standards
it's a tint of red in terms of pigment, it's one of the four key pigments in print color. ok, yes, it's not on the primary and secondary color wheel but how reductive do we have to be? By your standards, there are what? ROY G BIV? cmon dude
nah, he actually has a point there. There is no single wavelength of light which humans name Pink as is the case with many other colors. So if you define "color" by the wavelength of light (not a bad starting point) then pink is not a color.
What it shows is that definition of "color" is incomplete. You need to consider situations in which light of different wavelengths is being seen simultaneously.
No that's a terrible starting point and the definition of colour is not at all that
it's not a spectral colour
it's another kind of colour
ok then what is "the" definition of color
cause all of this just comes down to having a rigorous and agreed upon definition of that word. Given such a definition whether or not Pink is a color is easy.
also, I think the argument about pink not being a color is kind of hopelessly pedantic even by _J_ standards
it's a tint of red in terms of pigment, it's one of the four key pigments in print color. ok, yes, it's not on the primary and secondary color wheel but how reductive do we have to be? By your standards, there are what? ROY G BIV? cmon dude
nah, he actually has a point there. There is no single wavelength of light which humans name Pink as is the case with many other colors. So if you define "color" by the wavelength of light (not a bad starting point) then pink is not a color.
What it shows is that definition of "color" is incomplete. You need to consider situations in which light of different wavelengths is being seen simultaneously.
No that's a terrible starting point and the definition of colour is not at all that
it's not a spectral colour
it's another kind of colour
ok then what is "the" definition of color
cause all of this just comes down to having a rigorous and agreed upon definition of that word. Given such a definition whether or not Pink is a color is easy.
specifying what span is one colour can be somewhat tricky - what's red, and what's vermillion and burgundy, etc
but pink is super easy
it's an additive colour. It's what we perceive that combination of light as.
Colour is just how a function of (mostly arbitrary categories of) wavelengths of light and light [amount, power]
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I do not argue with hex.
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I am glad you asked!
Did you beat IWD?
I don't think 2nd edition ever claimed that people committing poverty-motivated petty crime were evil aligned.
And a paladin who stopped such a crime by murdering a petty criminal would cease to be a paladin immediately.
color =/= wavelength
Your treachery has been exposed, foul feline!
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d'awwwwww i can't stay mad at u
you =/= color
some jerk I know
- My dad turns the TV to the Hallmark Channel every time he gets the remote, then proceeds to read books on his tablet
- I really hate the Hallmark Channel
I would think that would depend on the laws of the paladin's civilization yes? There have been plenty of civilizations throughout history whose laws demand death as punishment for theft.
When my cable company took away Comedy Central they replaced it with the Hallmark Channel
Which if I'm being honest I would have found pretty funny had it happened to someone else
because the Mako sections are fun and definitely the best part of the game
...you're that fella that keeps telling me to go to the colossal pillar of wasp eggs, aren't you?
I only play evil in modern Bio. The writing is campy anyway, so why not go all in?
Never saw the article.
I unashamedly enjoy that film, because I used to watch it when I was really depressed while on deployment and it cheered me up. I rather doubt any article could ruin the film for me.
As for the scene with Emma Thompson and Liam Neeson, I find that an interesting scene because I think there is a lot of meaty subtextual stuff going on with her comment (which is definitely a well-intentioned comment and in no way meant to tear him down). For one thing, I feel like her advice to him is very culturally British. It's not something an American would say to their friend. That idea of not expressing too much emotion, keeping that stiff upper lip, and not being a sad sack even though his wife just died tragically at a young age.
I guess I can see why an American person watching the film might find the comment offensive. They'd be wrong. But I can see it. Particularly for young people in the United States, wearing your emotions -particularly when those emotions involve depression- on your sleeve is kind of what you do. And anyone telling you to suck it up is obviously worse than Hitler. But that's not the world that these characters, who are older and British, inhabit. Emoting excessively in public is not what you do.
Anyway, my favorite thing about the film was that it set out to show a bunch of different kinds of love, and each story felt honest, painful, and sweet (even if some of them were melodramatic which doesn't bother me).
@Apothe0sis
dat av
also, I think the argument about pink not being a color is kind of hopelessly pedantic even by _J_ standards
it's a tint of red in terms of pigment, it's one of the four key pigments in print color. ok, yes, it's not on the primary and secondary color wheel but how reductive do we have to be? By your standards, there are what? ROY G BIV? cmon dude
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Do you even play modern BW games?
ha ha
how ridiculous
though if you do go, make sure not to bring weapons
She's not actually telling him to suck it up.
She's saying "Chin up, dude. Come on, hang in there"
just not y'know
in a fucking dull way
this fucking idiot should be fired from nbc- cdiff is caused by overuse of antibiotics, yes, but it's also cured by usage of first flagyl and vancomycin, both antibiotics, as well as encouraged usage of probiotics during treatment.
this article could kill someone.
this goat has the same attitude as I do
fuck this weather lets eat a sammich
nah, he actually has a point there. There is no single wavelength of light which humans name Pink as is the case with many other colors. So if you define "color" by the wavelength of light (not a bad starting point) then pink is not a color.
What it shows is that definition of "color" is incomplete. You need to consider situations in which light of different wavelengths is being seen simultaneously.
I now go to sleep and dream of next week were apparently none of this ever happened.
No that's a terrible starting point and the definition of colour is not at all that
it's not a spectral colour
it's another kind of colour
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
ok then what is "the" definition of color
cause all of this just comes down to having a rigorous and agreed upon definition of that word. Given such a definition whether or not Pink is a color is easy.
specifying what span is one colour can be somewhat tricky - what's red, and what's vermillion and burgundy, etc
but pink is super easy
it's an additive colour. It's what we perceive that combination of light as.
Colour is just how a function of (mostly arbitrary categories of) wavelengths of light and light [amount, power]