he's almost there and the episodes immediately before THE EVENT (remain indoors!) definitely are worth it (if not while watching them, after it happens)
some of this looks different by the end of the season
How could it?
You can't retroactively unshit your dialogue and plotting.
You know how with movies they'll drop some shit early on and then it comes up later and you're like oh that's why that happened
AoS does a lot of that, and a lot of what turns out to be important later on doesn't feel choreographed when you see it
So when I say the first 9 episodes are better on the re-watch it's because the main arc seems scattered and poorly connected and certain things might feel like they don't contribute to the big picture
but once you know what the big picture is and return to those 9 episodes you know better.
I watched episode 1 of S.H.I.E.L.D. It was damn awful.
Read forums for the subsequent episodes, waiting for something to happen. Episode 16 aired. People were all "something happened", and I started watching.
If you simply must skip ahead I recommend episode 14 because it's kind of important going forward to like the entire season 2 plot line so far
but basically everything after episode 10? 11? starts to get progressively more important
EXCEPT the episode with the two asgard ladies, that's a one off (although something I thought was really strange when watching it turned out to make total sense later!)
When Ward was mind controlled it took him 0.0 seconds to enact a plan to disappear from SHIELD. I was like, well he's highly trained but come on he already had shit in place for that? How paranoid is he?
watched the wolf of wall street. kinda drank way too much, in the spirit of the movie.
there's a legit blizzard going on outside and I have to get my car in for an oil change and go to the last round of my current not-chemo treatment tomorrow. I must resist the urge to abdicate both of these responsibilities
just so long as you don't need to move your car right now
My rational brain is that he was an opportunist, just trying doors until he found the one idiot who forgot to lock his. I peeked out my door and he was already running halfway up the street, conveniently hoodied so if I tell the police this I have nothing to give them.
Yeah, I'm sorry Wash but no amount of later episodes can forgive how blandly and badly executed this show has been so far.
It feels like someone trying to emulate a Whedon show and failing through lack of good writing (especially dialogue). Combined with the occasional Gotham-esque bit of "We are totally part of the MCU guys!!!"
The plots are dull and formulaic and been-there-done-that, the characters still barely sketched out and not terribly interesting and there's little interesting being built in the background.
You know what, I think the best description of this would actually be a blander and more boring version of Fringe S1. That's really what this feels like. Less interesting mysteries, less interesting characters, less interesting slowly building mythology. Fringe at least had the desire to gross you out and kill a few people gruesomely in the process. AOS just seems to want to be the blandest procedural ever connected to a comic-book franchise ever produced.
It has showed the occasional moment of promise though. Parts of Eye-Spy, FZZT, and The Girl in the Flower Dress could probably see quality television on the horizon. But then the show bobbed right back down into the abyss.
watched the wolf of wall street. kinda drank way too much, in the spirit of the movie.
there's a legit blizzard going on outside and I have to get my car in for an oil change and go to the last round of my current not-chemo treatment tomorrow. I must resist the urge to abdicate both of these responsibilities
just so long as you don't need to move your car right now
Yeah, I'm sorry Wash but no amount of later episodes can forgive how blandly and badly executed this show has been so far.
It feels like someone trying to emulate a Whedon show and failing through lack of good writing (especially dialogue). Combined with the occasional Gotham-esque bit of "We are totally part of the MCU guys!!!"
The plots are dull and formulaic and been-there-done-that, the characters still barely sketched out and not terribly interesting and there's little interesting being built in the background.
You know what, I think the best description of this would actually be a blander and more boring version of Fringe S1. That's really what this feels like. Less interesting mysteries, less interesting characters, less interesting slowly building mythology. Fringe at least had the desire to gross you out and kill a few people gruesomely in the process. AOS just seems to want to be the blandest procedural ever connected to a comic-book franchise ever produced.
It has showed the occasional moment of promise though. Parts of Eye-Spy, FZZT, and The Girl in the Flower Dress could probably see quality television on the horizon. But then the show bobbed right back down into the abyss.
They all start off with interesting-ish sounding premises
And then the whole pilot will be like, some other dude, doing his shit
Are the Koreans just like, "Look, ok, this will be a young love story in a minute, but first we need you to know how hard her dad works for all this"?
Are the translators purposefully trolling me?
A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
Yeah, I'm sorry Wash but no amount of later episodes can forgive how blandly and badly executed this show has been so far.
It feels like someone trying to emulate a Whedon show and failing through lack of good writing (especially dialogue). Combined with the occasional Gotham-esque bit of "We are totally part of the MCU guys!!!"
The plots are dull and formulaic and been-there-done-that, the characters still barely sketched out and not terribly interesting and there's little interesting being built in the background.
You know what, I think the best description of this would actually be a blander and more boring version of Fringe S1. That's really what this feels like. Less interesting mysteries, less interesting characters, less interesting slowly building mythology. Fringe at least had the desire to gross you out and kill a few people gruesomely in the process. AOS just seems to want to be the blandest procedural ever connected to a comic-book franchise ever produced.
It has showed the occasional moment of promise though. Parts of Eye-Spy, FZZT, and The Girl in the Flower Dress could probably see quality television on the horizon. But then the show bobbed right back down into the abyss.
The hyperbole is strong with this one
no that's an accurate assessment of the earlies
I've had this discussion too many times to muster anything more than a "your face is an accurate assessment of the earlies"
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Should I tell my parents what happened? I dunno if they'll offer sympathy or chastise me because my youngest sister stays with me sometimes and I don't want to make it feel like my house isn't a safe haven for her.
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is "what if all the characters were less adept and interesting than Hawkeye?"
Then it reaches for the stars.
Then episode 16 happens, and events transpire that impact the larger Marvel universe. I care about the larger Marvel universe. Hurrah.
Hawkeye has his fans, he's no Iron Man but he's an Avengers favorite. Fraction's Hawkeye Hawkguy comics are a cult hit. His fanbase skyrocketed with Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes. Black Widow became a massive hit with the Avengers, and she was barely above Hawkeye with Avengers fandom before that. AoS had 1 Black Widow-lite person with May in season 1, and now has 2 more with May trained Skye and Bobbi Morse in season 2.
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Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is "what if all the characters were less adept and interesting than Hawkeye?"
Then it reaches for the stars.
Then episode 16 happens, and events transpire that impact the larger Marvel universe. I care about the larger Marvel universe. Hurrah.
Hawkeye has his fans, he's no Iron Man but he's an Avengers favorite. Fraction's Hawkeye Hawkguy comics are a cult hit. His fanbase skyrocketed with Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes. Black Widow became a massive hit with the Avengers, and she was barely above Hawkeye with Avengers fandom before that. AoS had 1 Black Widow-lite person with May in season 1, and now has 2 more with May trained Skye and Bobbi Morse in season 2.
I've decided to rank all superheroes by their effectiveness in Marvel Heroes which means Hawkguy is like a shitty Cyclops who is bad and also not very good
Yeah, I'm sorry Wash but no amount of later episodes can forgive how blandly and badly executed this show has been so far.
It feels like someone trying to emulate a Whedon show and failing through lack of good writing (especially dialogue). Combined with the occasional Gotham-esque bit of "We are totally part of the MCU guys!!!"
The plots are dull and formulaic and been-there-done-that, the characters still barely sketched out and not terribly interesting and there's little interesting being built in the background.
You know what, I think the best description of this would actually be a blander and more boring version of Fringe S1. That's really what this feels like. Less interesting mysteries, less interesting characters, less interesting slowly building mythology. Fringe at least had the desire to gross you out and kill a few people gruesomely in the process. AOS just seems to want to be the blandest procedural ever connected to a comic-book franchise ever produced.
It has showed the occasional moment of promise though. Parts of Eye-Spy, FZZT, and The Girl in the Flower Dress could probably see quality television on the horizon. But then the show bobbed right back down into the abyss.
The hyperbole is strong with this one
no that's an accurate assessment of the earlies
Yeah, there is nothing hyperbolic in that post. This show is not very good so far. I've seen Cap2, I know where this show is going. It's still bad.
I mean, shit, I just finished two episodes that were just ...
like, you have an episode to show off how totally connected you are to the movies by showing them cleaning up after the ending of Thor 2, a movie that climaxes with a battle wherein Thor and the bland BadElf jump between worlds repeatedly. And then you completely ignore this after the first 2 minutes to jump to a completely different story in a pair of completely different locations that has nothing to do with the ostensible setup of the episode.
Then follow it up with an episode about a guy who is jumping between two different worlds? Because of an almost completely unrelated phenomenon?
You have a set up and a story idea that go perfectly together and you put them in two different unconnected episodes?
Go home AoS writers, you're drunk.
I'm still deeply ashamed some of y'all are still trying to defend this show's start.
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is "what if all the characters were less adept and interesting than Hawkeye?"
Then it reaches for the stars.
Then episode 16 happens, and events transpire that impact the larger Marvel universe. I care about the larger Marvel universe. Hurrah.
Hawkeye has his fans, he's no Iron Man but he's an Avengers favorite. Fraction's Hawkeye Hawkguy comics are a cult hit. His fanbase skyrocketed with Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes. Black Widow became a massive hit with the Avengers, and she was barely above Hawkeye with Avengers fandom before that. AoS had 1 Black Widow-lite person with May in season 1, and now has 2 more with May trained Skye and Bobbi Morse in season 2.
I've decided to rank all superheroes by their effectiveness in Marvel Heroes which means Hawkguy is like a shitty Cyclops who is bad and also not very good
Remember that one time when Cyclops was awful and we wanted him to die?
Should I tell my parents what happened? I dunno if they'll offer sympathy or chastise me because my youngest sister stays with me sometimes and I don't want to make it feel like my house isn't a safe haven for her.
Probably not. It'd just make them worry or stress them out to no purpose.
But you could talk to your neighbors, let them know about it. If you've got roommates talk to them too, let 'em know to be careful about security, don't leave cash or small valuables that're easy to steal lying around, keep doors and windows locked, that kind of thing.
A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
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i just have no idea what to do with myself now or how to make the millions that i need to survive.
*thinks*
it really is!
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
You know how with movies they'll drop some shit early on and then it comes up later and you're like oh that's why that happened
AoS does a lot of that, and a lot of what turns out to be important later on doesn't feel choreographed when you see it
So when I say the first 9 episodes are better on the re-watch it's because the main arc seems scattered and poorly connected and certain things might feel like they don't contribute to the big picture
but once you know what the big picture is and return to those 9 episodes you know better.
Read forums for the subsequent episodes, waiting for something to happen. Episode 16 aired. People were all "something happened", and I started watching.
Highly recommend this method.
but basically everything after episode 10? 11? starts to get progressively more important
EXCEPT the episode with the two asgard ladies, that's a one off (although something I thought was really strange when watching it turned out to make total sense later!)
5 episodes later: oh thats why
just so long as you don't need to move your car right now
I got a little excited when I saw your ship.
Ugh, today sucks and it hasn't even started.
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is "what if all the characters were less adept and interesting than Hawkeye?"
Then it reaches for the stars.
yes I think I shall
it's like walking into a theatre after the first act's finished
The hyperbole is strong with this one
bro
bro
I'm still at the tingle phase, so I'm good
The first half establishes plot / characters, etc. I can get that from wikipedia.
no that's an accurate assessment of the earlies
I love him for his mind.
They all start off with interesting-ish sounding premises
And then the whole pilot will be like, some other dude, doing his shit
Are the Koreans just like, "Look, ok, this will be a young love story in a minute, but first we need you to know how hard her dad works for all this"?
Are the translators purposefully trolling me?
I've had this discussion too many times to muster anything more than a "your face is an accurate assessment of the earlies"
@Feral
OI WHATS ALL THIS THEN
You can't get everything from wikipedia.
It's like saying you get the gist of a song because you read the lyrics on the internet.
Feral surely mistyped
what he meant to say was
THE WIRE IS THE BEST SHOW AND YOU SHOULD WATCH IT
Hawkeye has his fans, he's no Iron Man but he's an Avengers favorite. Fraction's Hawkeye Hawkguy comics are a cult hit. His fanbase skyrocketed with Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes. Black Widow became a massive hit with the Avengers, and she was barely above Hawkeye with Avengers fandom before that. AoS had 1 Black Widow-lite person with May in season 1, and now has 2 more with May trained Skye and Bobbi Morse in season 2.
Wait.
Simmons?
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sure you can
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/blur/song2.html
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Wait.
I made a joke?
I'll call a doctor.
here is a nice duo of songs
I've decided to rank all superheroes by their effectiveness in Marvel Heroes which means Hawkguy is like a shitty Cyclops who is bad and also not very good
Yeah, there is nothing hyperbolic in that post. This show is not very good so far. I've seen Cap2, I know where this show is going. It's still bad.
I mean, shit, I just finished two episodes that were just ...
Then follow it up with an episode about a guy who is jumping between two different worlds? Because of an almost completely unrelated phenomenon?
Go home AoS writers, you're drunk.
I'm still deeply ashamed some of y'all are still trying to defend this show's start.
Remember that one time when Cyclops was awful and we wanted him to die?
Man.
That sure was an every time.
Probably not. It'd just make them worry or stress them out to no purpose.
But you could talk to your neighbors, let them know about it. If you've got roommates talk to them too, let 'em know to be careful about security, don't leave cash or small valuables that're easy to steal lying around, keep doors and windows locked, that kind of thing.