Is there any particular reason why his nervous impulses couldn't always be at Flash speed? It isn't like you have mental control over them anyway, or that the power needs to be a wholly binary function. Parts of it, much like the brain itself, he wouldn't have control over. Parts of it he would.
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Is there any particular reason why his nervous impulses couldn't always be at Flash speed? It isn't like you have mental control over them anyway, or that the power needs to be a wholly binary function. Parts of it, much like the brain itself, he wouldn't have control over. Parts of it he would.
Because he would have a seizure if he were having too many nervous impulses at once. That is the literal definition of a seizure, overload of information and everything starts firing off at once.
I mean, why can't ya'll accept that being able to dodge a bullet fired from a sniper once it has touched his neck for a guy who turns on and off super-speed is just as dumb and stupid as a dude running at super speed getting stabbed by a sword?
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
Is there any particular reason why his nervous impulses couldn't always be at Flash speed? It isn't like you have mental control over them anyway, or that the power needs to be a wholly binary function. Parts of it, much like the brain itself, he wouldn't have control over. Parts of it he would.
Because he would have a seizure if he were having too many nervous impulses at once. That is the literal definition of a seizure, overload of information and everything starts firing off at once.
I mean, why can't ya'll accept that being able to dodge a bullet fired from a sniper once it has touched his neck for a guy who turns on and off super-speed is just as dumb and stupid as a dude running at super speed getting stabbed by a sword?
Cause one involves him moving at super speed and running into a stationary object
Like
That's super super dumb
His reflexes being a billion times faster than a normal persons is just in line with his powers
Wally got his powers from trying to recreate Barry's accident, and I guess it just didn't work as well on him. I expect if the show continued, Wally would have shown up after spending some time in the Speed Force and been faster, or something.
Is there any particular reason why his nervous impulses couldn't always be at Flash speed? It isn't like you have mental control over them anyway, or that the power needs to be a wholly binary function. Parts of it, much like the brain itself, he wouldn't have control over. Parts of it he would.
Because he would have a seizure if he were having too many nervous impulses at once. That is the literal definition of a seizure, overload of information and everything starts firing off at once.
I mean, why can't ya'll accept that being able to dodge a bullet fired from a sniper once it has touched his neck for a guy who turns on and off super-speed is just as dumb and stupid as a dude running at super speed getting stabbed by a sword?
Because ultimately the only master comic books serve is the story. If the story is good, who cares how ridiculous the power is. We don't necessarily need a lengthy dissertation on the brain and the central nervous system for Flash because right at the outset the idea of super speed is much more ridiculous than why it would interact with the brain in the way it does.
I'm not going to fault anyone for arguing at length of it, that's just the way it goes with comics, but there is to me always that upper level of "well the entire fundamental this discussion is based on is bullshit," so, who even cares? What does it matter? If the story is good, I posit, then it doesn't matter.
Flash running into a sword because some writer wanted one enemy to be better than him for no reason is dumb. Flash's power rendering bullets unable to hurt him is cool.
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I don't mind if you create a fictional world with rules different from our own as long as they are internally consistent. Which, to me, is the issue with speedsters. There doesn't seem to be a good way to make them consistent. I mean, unless you do the 'turn it off and on' but then you run into problems like this conversation here about what the hell that is supposed to mean.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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By the way, regarding the Flash season finale:
The way I interpreted Jay Garrick's hat flying out and Wells' reaction to it was that Garrick is a terrifying force and should not be messed with.
I don't mind if you create a fictional world with rules different from our own as long as they are internally consistent. Which, to me, is the issue with speedsters. There doesn't seem to be a good way to make them consistent. I mean, unless you do the 'turn it off and on' but then you run into problems like this conversation here about what the hell that is supposed to mean.
You're the only one who is having an issue though
"The Flash is constantly running at super speed subconsciously and had to either consciously or reflexively turn on his super speed for his conscious mind" is a totally sound comic book science explanation to me
I don't mind if you create a fictional world with rules different from our own as long as they are internally consistent. Which, to me, is the issue with speedsters. There doesn't seem to be a good way to make them consistent. I mean, unless you do the 'turn it off and on' but then you run into problems like this conversation here about what the hell that is supposed to mean.
You're the only one who is having an issue though
"The Flash is constantly running at super speed subconsciously and had to either consciously or reflexively turn on his super speed for his conscious mind" is a totally sound comic book science explanation to me
Yep
And I don't bother critiquing it further because who the fuck cares.
It's cool and fun.
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What's important is that the cast of Leverage make it into the MCU.
I've been thinking on this.
Are there any superhero teams of rogues/criminals?
I keep coming to something like maybe the X-Force but they obviously can't use that in the MCU.
Thunderbolts
So, just find some Marvel characters that fit a team of:
Mastermind
Grifter
Thief
Tech/Hacker
Muscle
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What's important is that the cast of Leverage make it into the MCU.
I've been thinking on this.
Are there any superhero teams of rogues/criminals?
I keep coming to something like maybe the X-Force but they obviously can't use that in the MCU.
Thunderbolts
So, just find some Marvel characters that fit a team of:
Mastermind
Grifter
Thief
Tech/Hacker
Muscle
Loki
Taskmaster
Ghost
Winter Soldier or to fit your specific role, Rocket Raccoon, or if you don't think he can be on two teams, Crimson Typhoon
Groot or Abomination
Bam.
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Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
So Peyton Reed talked to Empire about the differences between the Edgar Wright Ant-Man screenplay and the filmed one and the major difference is apparently in how serious it takes itself. He says the film is still very funny and comedic but that Wright's was "an irreverent British romp" and that the new script focuses more on the flawed nature of Pym (described as guilt-ridden) and Lang as heroes and their "fucked up" mentor/mentee relationship.
Also apparently the villain was the Nano Warrior in Wright's version, a seemingly original character, which they changed to Yellowjacket.
Yeah, I really think the whole kerfuffle was just a side effect of the movie being in development hell for 8 years.
Back in 2007, I'm sure Marvel would have been fine with a less serious movie; at the time even Iron Man hadn't been ironed out, so to speak. Over time as they figured thing out, I'm guessing they had him rewrite the thing to keep pace. By the time Wright was finally available for filming, Marvel would have known exactly where it wanted to go and what they needed from the movie, and it probably just wasn't compatible with Wright's original vision anymore, no matter how much revision he did.
So Peyton Reed talked to Empire about the differences between the Edgar Wright Ant-Man screenplay and the filmed one and the major difference is apparently in how serious it takes itself. He says the film is still very funny and comedic but that Wright's was "an irreverent British romp" and that the new script focuses more on the flawed nature of Pym (described as guilt-ridden) and Lang as heroes and their "fucked up" mentor/mentee relationship.
Also apparently the villain was the Nano Warrior in Wright's version, a seemingly original character, which they changed to Yellowjacket.
Going to be honest, based on the above, I don't think I prefer Wright's vision over Marvel's.
I'd like to see Wright's Ant-Man a lot but I don't really blame Marvel for wanting a less zany British comedy romp for one of their big franchise debuts
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I don't mind if you create a fictional world with rules different from our own as long as they are internally consistent. Which, to me, is the issue with speedsters. There doesn't seem to be a good way to make them consistent. I mean, unless you do the 'turn it off and on' but then you run into problems like this conversation here about what the hell that is supposed to mean.
You're the only one who is having an issue though
"The Flash is constantly running at super speed subconsciously and had to either consciously or reflexively turn on his super speed for his conscious mind" is a totally sound comic book science explanation to me
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So Peyton Reed talked to Empire about the differences between the Edgar Wright Ant-Man screenplay and the filmed one and the major difference is apparently in how serious it takes itself. He says the film is still very funny and comedic but that Wright's was "an irreverent British romp" and that the new script focuses more on the flawed nature of Pym (described as guilt-ridden) and Lang as heroes and their "fucked up" mentor/mentee relationship.
Also apparently the villain was the Nano Warrior in Wright's version, a seemingly original character, which they changed to Yellowjacket.
Going to be honest, based on the above, I don't think I prefer Wright's vision over Marvel's.
I would've loved to see Wright's Ant-Man, so much it hurts
But a Marvel movie that addresses the mentor/mentee aspect of the MCU as fully as I wish Age of Ultron did? Yes hello, one ticket please
Assuming it addresses this thing right, that's all I really wanted out of...all of Phase 2? Thor and Odin, Cap and Nick, Quill and Yondu,
So I was thinking about the post SW relaunch and who is likely to be involved and I noticed Nick Bradshaw isn't doing anything in Secret Wars and his last gig was a few issues of Wolverines
I'm guessing he's got something big planned since Marvel seems to like him a lot and he's a slow artists so giving him a bunch of lead-in for a big ongoing is a smart move
He'd be a good fit for a lot of books, I think. GotG, Dr. Strange, (dude can draw demons and monsters and eldritch shit really well), etc.
He'd be a good replacement for Immonen on Captain America since Immonen has jumped to Star Wars
So I was thinking about the post SW relaunch and who is likely to be involved and I noticed Nick Bradshaw isn't doing anything in Secret Wars and his last gig was a few issues of Wolverines
I'm guessing he's got something big planned since Marvel seems to like him a lot and he's a slow artists so giving him a bunch of lead-in for a big ongoing is a smart move
He'd be a good fit for a lot of books, I think. GotG, Dr. Strange, (dude can draw demons and monsters and eldritch shit really well), etc.
He'd be a good replacement for Immonen on Captain America since Immonen has jumped to Star Wars
Bleeding Cool slapped together an incomplete list of comics they think will be coming after Secret Wars (based on confirmed mentions, innuendo and general speculation.
All New All Different Avengers
Gamora
Doctor Strange
Extraordinary X-Men
Uncanny X-Men (Bendis has mentioned someone will be taking over the book after him)
All-New X-Men (Bendis has mentioned someone will be taking over the book after him)
Defenders
Old Man Logan
Miss America
Uncanny Inhumans
Scarlet Witch
Howling Commandos
Silk
(All New) Captain America
Amazing Spider-Man
A-Force
Ms Marvel
Weirdworld
New Team book of dead universe characters
Spider-Gwen
Black Panther
Drax
Guardians Of The Galaxy
All-New Hawkeye
Moon Knight
Undead Scottsman on
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What's important is that the cast of Leverage make it into the MCU.
I've been thinking on this.
Are there any superhero teams of rogues/criminals?
I keep coming to something like maybe the X-Force but they obviously can't use that in the MCU.
Thunderbolts
So, just find some Marvel characters that fit a team of:
Mastermind
Grifter
Thief
Tech/Hacker
Muscle
"Let's go steal an Infinity Stone"
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The Flash is a man who can run so fast he can travel through time. He got these abilities when he was struck by lightning.
You want a seriously scientific explanation for his powers you ain't going to find one here.
That was Golden Age flash.
The modern flashes were all chemical things then the stuff that doesn't fit with physics is handwaved via magic. I mean Speedforce. But basically magic.
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Because he would have a seizure if he were having too many nervous impulses at once. That is the literal definition of a seizure, overload of information and everything starts firing off at once.
I mean, why can't ya'll accept that being able to dodge a bullet fired from a sniper once it has touched his neck for a guy who turns on and off super-speed is just as dumb and stupid as a dude running at super speed getting stabbed by a sword?
Like
That's super super dumb
His reflexes being a billion times faster than a normal persons is just in line with his powers
Impulse mentioned that it was because Wally wasn't born a speedster.
But neither was Barry.
Both Barry and Wally got their powers from comic book science, so it doesn't really make sense.
I guess they just needed Wally to be slower so that the season finale would work out the way it did.
Because ultimately the only master comic books serve is the story. If the story is good, who cares how ridiculous the power is. We don't necessarily need a lengthy dissertation on the brain and the central nervous system for Flash because right at the outset the idea of super speed is much more ridiculous than why it would interact with the brain in the way it does.
I'm not going to fault anyone for arguing at length of it, that's just the way it goes with comics, but there is to me always that upper level of "well the entire fundamental this discussion is based on is bullshit," so, who even cares? What does it matter? If the story is good, I posit, then it doesn't matter.
Flash running into a sword because some writer wanted one enemy to be better than him for no reason is dumb. Flash's power rendering bullets unable to hurt him is cool.
This isn't something I personally really care at all about doing, so long as the narrative is worth it.
Edit: What Cilla said.
"The Flash is constantly running at super speed subconsciously and had to either consciously or reflexively turn on his super speed for his conscious mind" is a totally sound comic book science explanation to me
Yep
And I don't bother critiquing it further because who the fuck cares.
It's cool and fun.
Let's put it this way:
The Internet? That was actually all him.
The Flash wrote all of GameFAQs.
No internet porn was actually shot; it was hand-coded in 0s and 1s by Flash.
I've been thinking on this.
Are there any superhero teams of rogues/criminals?
I keep coming to something like maybe the X-Force but they obviously can't use that in the MCU.
No being is that powerful.
Thunderbolts
Steam: MightyPotatoKing
Agency X starring Taskmaster and Agent X.
So, just find some Marvel characters that fit a team of:
Mastermind
Grifter
Thief
Tech/Hacker
Muscle
Loki
Taskmaster
Ghost
Winter Soldier or to fit your specific role, Rocket Raccoon, or if you don't think he can be on two teams, Crimson Typhoon
Groot or Abomination
Bam.
Also apparently the villain was the Nano Warrior in Wright's version, a seemingly original character, which they changed to Yellowjacket.
Back in 2007, I'm sure Marvel would have been fine with a less serious movie; at the time even Iron Man hadn't been ironed out, so to speak. Over time as they figured thing out, I'm guessing they had him rewrite the thing to keep pace. By the time Wright was finally available for filming, Marvel would have known exactly where it wanted to go and what they needed from the movie, and it probably just wasn't compatible with Wright's original vision anymore, no matter how much revision he did.
Going to be honest, based on the above, I don't think I prefer Wright's vision over Marvel's.
Yeah, but RDJr was great at improvising.
Except the part about people using MySpace
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I would've loved to see Wright's Ant-Man, so much it hurts
But a Marvel movie that addresses the mentor/mentee aspect of the MCU as fully as I wish Age of Ultron did? Yes hello, one ticket please
Assuming it addresses this thing right, that's all I really wanted out of...all of Phase 2? Thor and Odin, Cap and Nick, Quill and Yondu,
I'm guessing he's got something big planned since Marvel seems to like him a lot and he's a slow artists so giving him a bunch of lead-in for a big ongoing is a smart move
He'd be a good fit for a lot of books, I think. GotG, Dr. Strange, (dude can draw demons and monsters and eldritch shit really well), etc.
He'd be a good replacement for Immonen on Captain America since Immonen has jumped to Star Wars
Guardians of the Galaxy
Yeah yeah...
It wouldn't be a perfect match-up though.
You want a seriously scientific explanation for his powers you ain't going to find one here.
Also he was the lightning
Bleeding Cool slapped together an incomplete list of comics they think will be coming after Secret Wars (based on confirmed mentions, innuendo and general speculation.
Gamora
Doctor Strange
Extraordinary X-Men
Uncanny X-Men (Bendis has mentioned someone will be taking over the book after him)
All-New X-Men (Bendis has mentioned someone will be taking over the book after him)
Defenders
Old Man Logan
Miss America
Uncanny Inhumans
Scarlet Witch
Howling Commandos
Silk
(All New) Captain America
Amazing Spider-Man
A-Force
Ms Marvel
Weirdworld
New Team book of dead universe characters
Spider-Gwen
Black Panther
Drax
Guardians Of The Galaxy
All-New Hawkeye
Moon Knight
"Let's go steal an Infinity Stone"
That was Golden Age flash.
The modern flashes were all chemical things then the stuff that doesn't fit with physics is handwaved via magic. I mean Speedforce. But basically magic.