Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
I just kind of assume it's a skill that they activate, rather than something they have going on all the time.
Because it would be absolute hell otherwise.
Well, then you could shoot them with a bullet or stab them with a knife pretty easily in that case!
Flash explains this really similarly to the Spider-Sense in that the second his body feels any sort of threat it activates the super speed
Like I remember an issue where he was shot at by a sniper like a mile away and the fraction of a fraction of a second when the bullet tip touched his neck before penetrating was enough to set it off. He got grazed by it but was able to duck out Of the way before it did it's job
So his PNS can activate his super speed? Really? because I am pretty sure that once a sniper bullet has touched the skin, it will do damage before the CNS is aware of it.
I mean you're talking about a comic book superhero who can run so fast he travels through time and can vibrate through walls
Shockingly, his body doesn't follow normal human response times
Yeah, but it's circuitous logic with the whole "can turn the speedster thing on and off"
I really don't get how it is
Like
He can turn it on and off and if his body sense any sort of immediate danger it turns it on for him so he goes from normal to superspeed in like .00000000000001 seconds
it makes just as much sense as, like, the Spider-Sense
Spider-sense is precognitive, so it happens before the danger hits.
A bullet would have to bore deep enough to cause damage, he would have to physically register the hit, then activate it. He can it on and off, fine. But turn if it's off, it shouldn't be precognitive!
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It's terribly simple. The good guys are always stalwart and true. The bad guys are easily distinguished by their pointy horns or black hats, and, uh, we always defeat them and save the day. No one ever dies and... everybody lives happily ever after.
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I just kind of assume it's a skill that they activate, rather than something they have going on all the time.
Because it would be absolute hell otherwise.
Well, then you could shoot them with a bullet or stab them with a knife pretty easily in that case!
Flash explains this really similarly to the Spider-Sense in that the second his body feels any sort of threat it activates the super speed
Like I remember an issue where he was shot at by a sniper like a mile away and the fraction of a fraction of a second when the bullet tip touched his neck before penetrating was enough to set it off. He got grazed by it but was able to duck out Of the way before it did it's job
So his PNS can activate his super speed? Really? because I am pretty sure that once a sniper bullet has touched the skin, it will do damage before the CNS is aware of it.
I mean you're talking about a comic book superhero who can run so fast he travels through time and can vibrate through walls
Shockingly, his body doesn't follow normal human response times
Yeah, but it's circuitous logic with the whole "can turn the speedster thing on and off"
I really don't get how it is
Like
He can turn it on and off and if his body sense any sort of immediate danger it turns it on for him so he goes from normal to superspeed in like .00000000000001 seconds
it makes just as much sense as, like, the Spider-Sense
Spider-sense is precognitive, so it happens before the danger hits.
A bullet would have to bore deep enough to cause damage, he would have to physically register the hit, then activate it. He can it on and off, fine. But turn if it's off, it shouldn't be precognitive!
Except the bullet doesn't get time to bore in
the second it touches his skin, not pierces or cuts, his speed kicks in and he is able to get out of the way fast enough to avoid a direct hit
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The Flash can run so fast he breaks the space-time continuum
I don't get why you have trouble buying he can be fast enough to dodge a bullet that has literally just touched his skin
What if his subconscious is always in super speed mode? It would feel the bullet the moment it touches his skin and realize it's moving faster than, say, someone poking you.
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Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It has to do something to make it be 'a threat' which would be to cause pain at the very LEAST.
Edit: and my problem is that you say hey, it is something that he can turn on and off, but also something that activates before he would have time to register the problem. So it is always on, yet not. I mean, even in comic book sense, it is a bit silly that the PNS could activate a power that in all your other situations involve the CNS at the least, and the brain in most.
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Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It has to do something to make it be 'a threat' which would be to cause pain at the very LEAST.
It doesn't though
Like sorry if I was unclear in my wording
But anything that surprises or catches Flash off guard kicks on his super speed and he reacts at super speed
So the tip of a bullet literally touching his skin totally counts
And we know that because it actually happened, like I don't even get what you're arguing at this point. This is how Flash's powers work and are pretty well explained in Johns run and others
Something doesn't need to hurt for it to kick in a reflexive action
It just needs to take you by surprise
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Wouldn't he have trouble with the screen refresh rate?
oh my god I bet the flash is such a framerate snob
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What if his subconscious is always in super speed mode? It would feel the bullet the moment it touches his skin and realize it's moving faster than, say, someone poking you.
Which is why I said CNS and not active perception or, specifically, the brain. Your subconscious is not working at a PNS level.
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Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It has to do something to make it be 'a threat' which would be to cause pain at the very LEAST.
Edit: and my problem is that you say hey, it is something that he can turn on and off, but also something that activates before he would have time to register the problem. So it is always on, yet not. I mean, even in comic book sense, it is a bit silly that the PNS could activate a power that in all your other situations involve the CNS at the least, and the brain in most.
This just sounds like regular actual bodily function and reflex, doesn't it?
Reflex can activate muscles and movement before you mentally process why, that's the whole point, but you can also mentally control your own movement in response to whatever you want. The power would be, in this sense, just a muscle.
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Reflexes still have to travel through the CNS and back.
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Apparently Asa Butterfield made a few comments about people saying he's too short to play Spider-Man (turns out he's actually 6") on reddit and then he deleted them for seemingly no reason.
Also he seems like a pretty cool dude. People said the new MCU Peter should be a "thin, bespectacled dweeb" and he replied with "I can do 'thin bespectacled dweeb' pretty good. Not too far from myself actually."
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
Nerve impulses travel at roughly 250mph.
Bullets travel at 1,700 mph.
Reflexes do not apply once the bullet hits your skin.
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Nerve impulses travel at roughly 250mph.
Bullets travel at 1,700 mph.
Reflexes do not apply once the bullet hits your skin.
The Flash's do because he is a superhuman who can run faster than the speed of light and rewrite time
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For a normal person, maybe. We're talking about the Flash.
CIRCUITOUS LOGIC IF HE TURNS IT ON AND OFF *bangs head against wall*
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when the outermost molecule of the bullet is between the outermost molecule of the outermost skin cell and the second molecule of the selfsame cell the flash has already activated his superspeed
I suspect it would only be that debilitating if they had super speed from very early childhood, rather than being introduced to it much later
Even super speed from early childhood would probably only be real bad if they'd grown up with other speedsters and no one else.
They would otherwise be culturally and physically built on a very firm foundation of interacting with slow people already, though their formative years.
See: Impulse
Dude was a speedster from childhood and basically had the most outrageous case of ADD ever because the world never moved fast enough for him
I loved that time in Young Justice where he and Barry were talking at super speed, and Wally's just standing there like "What the hell are you doing, guys"
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Spider-sense is precognitive, so it happens before the danger hits.
A bullet would have to bore deep enough to cause damage, he would have to physically register the hit, then activate it. He can it on and off, fine. But turn if it's off, it shouldn't be precognitive!
It's terribly simple. The good guys are always stalwart and true. The bad guys are easily distinguished by their pointy horns or black hats, and, uh, we always defeat them and save the day. No one ever dies and... everybody lives happily ever after.
Why I fear the ocean.
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the second it touches his skin, not pierces or cuts, his speed kicks in and he is able to get out of the way fast enough to avoid a direct hit
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The Flash can run so fast he breaks the space-time continuum
I don't get why you have trouble buying he can be fast enough to dodge a bullet that has literally just touched his skin
Like his body isn't a computer, it isn't going to be able to identify a bullet from it touching his neck
But a sudden sharp object at high velocity touching his neck
Yeah probably a threat
It also kicks in if he gets surprised or scared or, as explained earlier, is about to unexpectedly pass out or lose consciousness
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Edit: and my problem is that you say hey, it is something that he can turn on and off, but also something that activates before he would have time to register the problem. So it is always on, yet not. I mean, even in comic book sense, it is a bit silly that the PNS could activate a power that in all your other situations involve the CNS at the least, and the brain in most.
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Like sorry if I was unclear in my wording
But anything that surprises or catches Flash off guard kicks on his super speed and he reacts at super speed
So the tip of a bullet literally touching his skin totally counts
And we know that because it actually happened, like I don't even get what you're arguing at this point. This is how Flash's powers work and are pretty well explained in Johns run and others
It just needs to take you by surprise
oh my god I bet the flash is such a framerate snob
No, because good typists don't look at what they are typing. He would have a trouble with the keys rising up so they can be pressed again.
Or if he was on a typewriter, he would just cause a jam.
I think it's safe to say Barry builds his own computers.
that iconic cap...
Which is why I said CNS and not active perception or, specifically, the brain. Your subconscious is not working at a PNS level.
This just sounds like regular actual bodily function and reflex, doesn't it?
Reflex can activate muscles and movement before you mentally process why, that's the whole point, but you can also mentally control your own movement in response to whatever you want. The power would be, in this sense, just a muscle.
How does he run so fast without--
Speed force.
But what about--
Speed force.
That doesn't make any--
Speed force.
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His entire body moves at an accelerated rate so his central nervous system is probably the human equivalent of fiber optics now.
Also he seems like a pretty cool dude. People said the new MCU Peter should be a "thin, bespectacled dweeb" and he replied with "I can do 'thin bespectacled dweeb' pretty good. Not too far from myself actually."
Bullets travel at 1,700 mph.
Reflexes do not apply once the bullet hits your skin.
the flash's nerve impluses are faster because he is fast
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CIRCUITOUS LOGIC IF HE TURNS IT ON AND OFF *bangs head against wall*
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A part of him is always running at super speed but his conscious mind is slowed down so he can live a normal life
I loved that time in Young Justice where he and Barry were talking at super speed, and Wally's just standing there like "What the hell are you doing, guys"