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    cabsycabsy the fattest rainbow unicorn Registered User regular
    oh yes also for insults I just call people punks and then those I love most I call gutterpunks
    my husband and my cats and my best friend, all gutterpunks

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    TheySlashThemTheySlashThem Registered User regular
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    KochikensKochikens Registered User regular
    Rainfall, explore your gender fluidity. Fight the patriarchy by dressin like that well dressed woman.


    I had a longer post but tl:dr fuck the inherent societal gendering of clothing

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    Houk the NamebringerHouk the Namebringer Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    my go-to for all things animate and inanimate is 'little shit'

    it's not too harsh and yet surprisingly satisfying

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    RainfallRainfall Registered User regular
    edited May 2015
    Kochikens wrote: »
    Rainfall, explore your gender fluidity. Fight the patriarchy by dressin like that well dressed woman.


    I had a longer post but tl:dr fuck the inherent societal gendering of clothing

    Honestly let's just fuck societal gendering in its entirety and I would be so much happier.

    Rainfall on
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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    Fecal and butt related insults are generally pretty reliable

    Because butts and poop aren't gendered, and the small percentage of scat fetishists out there aren't going to be super mad about people being called shitheads as an insult.

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    StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    Yes, but it is an insult to the noble legacy of the Scatman.

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    Phoenix-DPhoenix-D Registered User regular
    Noted exception to douching : right after SRS. (to flush out blood and gunk / reduce the odds of infection by delivering antiseptics)

    There were so many turkey baster jokes.

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    ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Houk wrote: »
    my go-to for all things animate and inanimate is 'little shit'

    it's not too harsh and yet surprisingly satisfying

    And again, I know people who were routinely called this in anger by their parents. So I really can't get behind this.

    And it seems like all is dying, and would leave the world to mourn
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    GnizmoGnizmo Registered User regular
    Rainfall wrote: »
    Kochikens wrote: »
    Rainfall, explore your gender fluidity. Fight the patriarchy by dressin like that well dressed woman.


    I had a longer post but tl:dr fuck the inherent societal gendering of clothing

    Honestly let's just fuck societal gendering in its entirety and I would be so much happier.

    Can I agree with this like 10 times? My job is so awesome except for the fact that I am working with a random selection of people that initially I know nothing about. The fact that it is with kids compounds the problem further. That is nothing compared to these companies desires to have a "man" to go see the "boys" and help them. Apparently only a "real man" can help them become a "real man." My frustration and anger over it is endless and furthers my drive to get into a masters program. I suspect that dream will never happen, but I can hope right?

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    GnizmoGnizmo Registered User regular
    GOD DAMNIT GETH!

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    In general I have little use for actual insults towards people nowadays.

    I just leaned my entire way of speaking away from that, even when I'm being harshly critical of someone I find loathsome.

    I mean sometimes there's no other way to describe someone than to call them a shitwizard but for the most part I find being damning of what it is I actually dislike about them is more accurate and useful.

    So saying "this person's views are fucking garbage" instead of "this person is fucking garbage", even if I really do think the latter, the former is why I think that.

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    Desert LeviathanDesert Leviathan Registered User regular
    cabsy wrote: »
    Kochikens wrote: »
    thread

    settle an argument


    is douche gendered

    A douche is a useless tool of the patriarchy.

    It follows that women can be douches, but not nearly as often as men.

    I had always heard that 'products for feminine hygiene' had multiple uses in multiple situations, just not every day.

    Please to be educating me because I require The Knowledge.

    douches and other 'feminine hygeine' products like fancy vagina soaps can usually just fuck up the pH entirely and cause even worse problems down the road

    when I was in high school a friend of mine used to sing 'the never-ending douchebag' to the tune of the never-ending story any time any one brought up whether or not they should douche - you do it once, it messes up the balance and things smell a little wonky, you do it again to fix the wonky caused by the first one, you can never stop because you keep fucking up what your body wants to do. it can actually make you more susceptible to infections, pregnancy, all kinds of things. vaginas clean themselves out really pretty well and when you intentionally go in and disrupt that you're ruining the whole natural process that has been developed over a frabillion years to take care of itself

    if you have a smelly vagina or a lot of discharge you DEFINITELY shouldn't douche because it's your vagina's way of being like "yo dog something is wrong in here", you should go see a doctor
    basically: don't douche, like, ever

    also don't use talc on your genitals if you have ovaries cause talc has been tied to an increased risk of ovarian cancer - use cornstarch instead

    Awesomed because this is some useful as hell information right here, thank you! I reject my former douche-paradigm and override it with yours.

    Realizing lately that I don't really trust or respect basically any of the moderators here. So, good luck with life, friends! Hit me up on Twitter @DesertLeviathan
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    cabsycabsy the fattest rainbow unicorn Registered User regular
    Phoenix-D wrote: »
    Noted exception to douching : right after SRS. (to flush out blood and gunk / reduce the odds of infection by delivering antiseptics)

    There were so many turkey baster jokes.

    This I did not know but makes sense! Adding that to my collection of douche-related knowledge

    Also wrt talc I saw a packer detailing tutorial that made sure to emphasize starch dusting to keep it non sticky... Not talc! Don't even be using it on your packers cause better safe than sorry

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    So douching is like those awful nasal sprays but worse, basically?

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    Mr FuzzbuttMr Fuzzbutt Registered User regular
    I generally think of douches as being used for butts.

    The colon absorbs the sherry much better than the vagina.

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    Phoenix-DPhoenix-D Registered User regular
    I generally think of douches as being used for butts.

    The colon absorbs the sherry much better than the vagina.

    For those that playing at home : don't actually do this

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    DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    Phoenix-D wrote: »
    Noted exception to douching : right after SRS. (to flush out blood and gunk / reduce the odds of infection by delivering antiseptics)

    There were so many turkey baster jokes.

    I must have been unconscious for that part

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    NecoNeco Worthless Garbage Registered User regular
    I generally think of douches as being used for butts.

    The colon absorbs the sherry much better than the vagina.

    Actually, douchebutt might be a good new insult...

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    UsagiUsagi Nah Registered User regular
    Most recently been a fan of 'assbiscuit'

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    GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    Pony wrote: »
    The best insult is "who's this clown?" because it means they're not even one of the better known clowns.

    There's no such thing as a funny clown in this day and age.

    If you were funny, you wouldn't be a clown.

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    StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    Usagi wrote: »
    Most recently been a fan of 'assbiscuit'
    Please don't make fun of YouTube's #1 PC Gaming Critic.

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    Usagi wrote: »
    Most recently been a fan of 'assbiscuit'
    Please don't make fun of YouTube's #1 PC Gaming Critic.

    he might accuse you of slander/libel and send his reddit army after you

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    PsykomaPsykoma Registered User regular
    edited May 2015
    Dubh wrote: »
    Phoenix-D wrote: »
    Noted exception to douching : right after SRS. (to flush out blood and gunk / reduce the odds of infection by delivering antiseptics)

    There were so many turkey baster jokes.

    I must have been unconscious for that part

    I was told to either douche or shower after each dilation for the first like two or three months

    Psykoma on
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    Phoenix-DPhoenix-D Registered User regular
    Psykoma wrote: »
    Dubh wrote: »
    Phoenix-D wrote: »
    Noted exception to douching : right after SRS. (to flush out blood and gunk / reduce the odds of infection by delivering antiseptics)

    There were so many turkey baster jokes.

    I must have been unconscious for that part

    I was told to either douche or shower after each dilation for the first like two or three months

    I imagine it's a YMMV thing depending on surgeon but this. Though Suporn didn't specify when to stop. (I'm still doing it but that's because dilation is going poorly)

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    ameybesameybes vvvv MERBERNRegistered User regular
    Pony wrote: »
    The best insult is "who's this clown?" because it means they're not even one of the better known clowns.
    My favourite insult is arseclown, which I don't think is homophobic but now I say it I'm not sure. Hmm.

    For me the first image that comes to mind is of a steady stream of shit covered clowns emerging from an arsehole, limply trying to perform magic tricks and stunts to engender even the slightest positive reaction, but there is none because they are covered in shit, having spent most of their time stuck in a tiny dank arsehole with 497 other clowns (how did they all fit in there?).

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    A duck!A duck! Moderator, ClubPA mod
    Usagi wrote: »
    Most recently been a fan of 'assbiscuit'

    Does Assbiscuit have good odds at the Belmont Stakes?

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    StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    A steak! wrote: »
    Usagi wrote: »
    Most recently been a fan of 'assbiscuit'
    Does Assbiscuit have good odds at the Belmont Stakes?
    CW: Vampires

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    StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    A steak! wrote: »
    Usagi wrote: »
    Most recently been a fan of 'assbiscuit'

    Does Assbiscuit have good odds at the Belmont Stakes?

    Assbiscuit: America's favorite race horse.

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    ameybes wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    The best insult is "who's this clown?" because it means they're not even one of the better known clowns.
    My favourite insult is arseclown, which I don't think is homophobic but now I say it I'm not sure. Hmm.

    For me the first image that comes to mind is of a steady stream of shit covered clowns emerging from an arsehole, limply trying to perform magic tricks and stunts to engender even the slightest positive reaction, but there is none because they are covered in shit, having spent most of their time stuck in a tiny dank arsehole with 497 other clowns (how did they all fit in there?).

    this really offkey version of the conventional circus music going

    interspersed with fart noises

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    ameybesameybes vvvv MERBERNRegistered User regular
    Right? So an arseclown is someone that thinks they're engaging an audience, but they have massive misread how much a filthmonster the audience already think they are, and the things that the arseclown does only makes it worse, but occasionally you may laugh just at how hopelessly pathetic the arseclown is.

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    WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    I generally use "garbage" or "tire fire"

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    ameybesameybes vvvv MERBERNRegistered User regular
    edited May 2015
    Wyvern wrote: »
    ameybes wrote: »
    Take some HRT meds at a low dose and decide if you like how it makes you feel.
    Is this a real thing? I guess I always took starting hormones to be a sort of a..."Well, I have X months before the physical changes become too big to hide, so I'd better be ready by then." I guess I don't really know how different dosages work or anything. (Although there isn't a snowball's fucking chance in hell that I ever make an active decision to increase the amount of testosterone in my body once I've started no matter what the consequences are.)
    Yeah people explain away weird changes if you do anything to help them do so. I was freeboobing it under my lavender and pink business shirts every day, had my hair dyed and cut in a bob (tucked behind my ears for dude presentation), had my face extensively lasered, and people were not picking up on the trans (though I think a few assumed I was gay). The binary switch sucks for people in the middle of the spectrum, but for people who themselves are closer to the binary (even if at the wrong end), its a switch you can very much flick at the right moment.
    The major fulcrum that the whole "when should I start hormones/when should I start presenting" rests on (outside of the facial hair and voice stuff I've already mentioned) is, like...I think I would definitely need to have real breasts before I felt like I could even maybe handle presenting, regardless of all other factors, just as a self-confidence thing. If I'd have to be using breastforms or whatever then it's too early for me to really be thinking about it. But at the same time, if I had prominent breasts then I couldn't really stay closeted, which could easily be a problem for work and stuff if the timing is wrong (as great as it would be in all other respects).
    Baggy shirts. Seriously.

    And I kind of get the breastform thing, but progress of hormones will come down a lot to your existing body type. I've always had an endomorphic body, so I've had a decent return on hormones, but I don't know your situation. Hormones are for more than just tits though, just review Metalbourne's recent posts of tragedy :/
    For a little while I toyed with the viability of starting hormones really early, not telling anyone, and just binding my chest for a while if it became a factor and I felt like I needed to, but I came to the conclusion that that was probably really stupid and dangerous and not actually realistic. Binding developing breasts eight hours a day can't possibly be healthy for them.
    Unless you get super hit by the tit fairy, this won't happen. By the time it does, I expect you will be pretty comfortable in yourself.
    As long as I'm on the subject of HRT, I think the only other thing that really worries be about it is the fear that my disgusting body hair either won't go away like it's supposed to or will take way too long to go away. I don't know if that's an actual concern or just a thing that I made up out of random paranoia.
    Some body hair will, some won't. For some reason, my body prioritised thinning out armpit hair, which I don't give a shit about, but I still have a few hairs on my chest getting lasered regularly. But its not all gendered - I used to be super selfconscious about my arm hair, until I noticed my little sisters have it worse than me.

    Its probably worth trying - you can go a long time at a low dose before anything major is likely to happen, and many people do.

    ameybes on
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    ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator mod
    I would like to meet a tit fairy

    And it seems like all is dying, and would leave the world to mourn
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    ameybesameybes vvvv MERBERNRegistered User regular
    ceres wrote: »
    I would like to meet a tit fairy
    Carrying a hessian sack with `CAT LUMPS' printed on it.

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    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited May 2015
    ceres wrote: »
    I would like to meet a tit fairy

    I thought you were the tit fairy?

    Raijin Quickfoot on
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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    so I have a bit of a situation

    It's not really my problem, I'm just not sure how to help out a friend of mine, or if I can or should help

    basically someone I used to play tabletop RPGs with back in the day and I'm still pretty good friends with came out to me as trans. Which, hey, good for her! That's not the issue.

    The issue she has is she hasn't told her family or her boyfriend. She's told a handful of her close friends and she's not planning to tell her family (her family did not deal well with her coming out as being attracted to men back when she self-identified as a man, soooooo), but she thinks she should tell her boyfriend but she's not sure how he's going to deal with it. He's a gay cis dude, and so far as he sees the situation he's been in a relationship with another gay cis dude for a while now.

    He's never said anything transphobic, never said anything biphobic, but at the same time, he's also never really shown any indication of being bisexual. So she's worried that telling him about herself is pretty much going to nuke their relationship, since he's not going to be attracted to her anymore (she's like "the best case scenario is we become 'just friends' and that kills me inside") but of course not telling him is worse in its own ways.

    I'm like "uhhhh are you part of any online trans communities because they're way more equipped to deal with this than I am?" and she apparently is but she also respects me and wants my advice

    but my advice comes from my perspective which isn't like, all that great for the situation?

    so idk

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    Phoenix-DPhoenix-D Registered User regular
    If it helps reassure people I'll point out that I was wearing a D cup bra before I came out at work and no one noticed. baggy shirts do a lot.

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    ameybesameybes vvvv MERBERNRegistered User regular
    edited May 2015
    @Pony, I guess it all comes down to 1) Is she planning to transition and 2) is she OK being in a relationship where she is perceived and treated as a `gay cis dude'?

    If the answers are 1) no and 2) yes - thats probably the only situation in which not talking about it might be viable, but even then it might be worth a chat.

    Sad thing about being trans is that relationships get nuked :/

    ameybes on
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    NecoNeco Worthless Garbage Registered User regular
    Phoenix-D wrote: »
    If it helps reassure people I'll point out that I was wearing a D cup bra before I came out at work and no one noticed. baggy shirts do a lot.

    Baggy shirts are wonderful if you are ever feeling you just do NOT want people noticing your chest. I usually go with a jacket or hoodie when I am feeling self conscious enough, though it's getting way too warm for that. :P

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