Some of the coincidences are crazy as hell, though. Hamilton being duped by Benedict Arnold's wife, who ends up later marrying Aaron Burr? (This is the Theodosia from the musical)
Some of the coincidences are crazy as hell, though. Hamilton being duped by Benedict Arnold's wife, who ends up later marrying Aaron Burr? (This is the Theodosia from the musical)
Holy shit.
Oh wait ok, Benedict Arnold's wife visits Aaron Burr's future wife immediately after duping Hamilton to dish on the story of how she did it
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I wonder if it's because the world was smaller back then
like, Philip really died exactly where his father would later on
oh also, one of the spies involved in the Battle of Yorktown lead-up was a black spy named James Armistead Lafayette, who spied on Benedict Arnold and after the war he wasn't granted his freedom because he was a spy, not a soldier
so then Marquis de Lafayette, who was his commander during the war, sends a letter or something that fully supports Armistead's bid for emancipation and when it's granted, Armistead takes Lafayette's name
I wonder if it's because the world was smaller back then
like, Philip really died exactly where his father would later on
oh also, one of the spies involved in the Battle of Yorktown lead-up was a black spy named James Armistead Lafayette, who spied on Benedict Arnold and after the war he wasn't granted his freedom because he was a spy, not a soldier
so then Marquis de Lafayette, who was his commander during the war, sends a letter or something that fully supports Armistead's bid for emancipation and when it's granted, Armistead takes Lafayette's name
That's probably partially it, but largely I think it's just because they were both in the same social class in the same place at the same time.
Still, Hamilton seems to have had a knack for being around history. He was dining with Benedict Arnold when he got news that his British courier had been captured, and just ran off, knowing he'd soon be found out. Hamilton was just like "WTF?" and it wasn't until later that Washington figured out what happened.
Also, if you haven't read the book, you should, it's real good. Here's Lin-Manuel Miranda reading the beginning of the book. It's... emotional.
I wonder if it's because the world was smaller back then
like, Philip really died exactly where his father would later on
oh also, one of the spies involved in the Battle of Yorktown lead-up was a black spy named James Armistead Lafayette, who spied on Benedict Arnold and after the war he wasn't granted his freedom because he was a spy, not a soldier
so then Marquis de Lafayette, who was his commander during the war, sends a letter or something that fully supports Armistead's bid for emancipation and when it's granted, Armistead takes Lafayette's name
I don't know, I think the world was wide enough even then
- Best Musical
- Best Book of a Musical
- Best Original Score Written for the Theatre
- Best Performance by an Actor in a Leading Role in a Musical, Lin-Manuel Miranda
- Best Performance by an Actor in a Leading Role in a Musical, Leslie Odom, Jr.
- Best Performance by an Actress in a Leading Role in a Musical, Phillipa Soo
- Best Performance by an Actor in a Featured Role in a Musical, Daveed Diggs
- Best Performance by an Actor in a Featured Role in a Musical, Jonathan Groff
- Best Performance by an Actor in a Featured Role in a Musical, Christopher Jackson
- Best Performance by an Actress in a Featured Role in a Musical, Renee Elise Goldsberry
- Best Scenic Design of a Musical, David Korins
- Best Costume Design of a Musical, Paul Tazewell
- Best Lighting Design of a Musical, Howard Binkley
- Best Direction of a Musical, Thomas Kail
- Best Choreography, Andy Blankenbuehler
- Best Orchestrations, Alex Lacamoire
After reading through the Hamiltome, I've come away with a far greater respect for Jackson.
There is no way they'll bypass the opportunity to give a Black George Washington a Tony. No way.
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And he makes two distinctly unique roles his own.
I mean C. Jackson owns it and brings so much weight. But i really doubt anyone can pull off those two roles as well as Daveed could.
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Diggs is everyone's favorite fighting frenchman and pimp Jefferson.
The fuck do you do to compete with that?
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Last year I saw the YouTube video of the original presentation of the opening number to Hamilton and enjoyed it. I had sort of hoped to see Hamilton live, but since tickets are basically impossible to get and since it's not likely to come anywhere that I'm going any time soon, I decided to kill time at the airport by buying the soundtrack on iTunes and listening to it. I wasn't sure how much I'd enjoy it - I love musical theatre, but I'm largely indifferent to rap and hip hop, and I cheer for the British in stories about the American Revolution. And I've been severely disappointed by some hyped up and popular recent musicals (I'm looking at you, Book of Mormon).
But damn.
It's so good.
Hamilton exceeds the hype. I'm absolutely floored. Stand out tracks for me are the opening number ("Alexander Hamilton"), "My Shot," "You'll Be Back," "Helpless," the cabinet battles, "The World Was Wide Enough," and "Who Lives, Who Dies, Who Tells Your Story." I actually just decided to buy the book on how the musical came about for my Kindle, so I'll have something to read on the plane.
I hope that Lin-Manuel Miranda has more left in the well, because I want more from where Hamilton came from.
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My mom and I's text conversation from this morning:
Mom: Hamilton... 16 nominations! Me: How does the bastard, orphan, son of a whore and a Scotsman go on and on, grow into more of a phenomeno
Oops mucked the lyrics
Pretend I didn't, I'm supposed to be listening to this talk :P Mom: Lol... Cause... You know... Working! Me: I'm looking for a mind at work!
(whoa-ooh)
"Sandra has a good solid anti-murderer vibe. My skin felt very secure and sufficiently attached to my body when I met her. Also my organs." HAIL SATAN
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so becuase I'm sitting here doing some crochet while the baby is napping, I decided to check out Wikipedia on Aaron Burr.
And holy shit.
The line in "Wait for it" about is Grandfather being a fire and brimstone preacher?
Not "a" but "the". Aaron Burr is Jonathon Edwards's grandson.
Jonathon Edwards of the "Sinners in the Hand of an Angry God" sermon.
Huh, Aaron Burr and Hamilton were actual co-counsel on the first murder trial in the US
This fact is weird, because it seems like what they actually mean is that it's the first recorded murder trial. Because the Levi Weeks trial (which is the name used in the song) happened in 1799, which is waaaaaaaaay later than anything that happened in Non-Stop. But they had also been co counsels in a bunch of cases. Including one early on, where there's a story that they disagreed with who would do the opening speech, that when it came to actually giving it, Burr went first and tried to anticipate all the points that Hamilton would make and managed to basically give him nothing to say. And, apparently, it worked.
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Last year I saw the YouTube video of the original presentation of the opening number to Hamilton and enjoyed it. I had sort of hoped to see Hamilton live, but since tickets are basically impossible to get and since it's not likely to come anywhere that I'm going any time soon, I decided to kill time at the airport by buying the soundtrack on iTunes and listening to it. I wasn't sure how much I'd enjoy it - I love musical theatre, but I'm largely indifferent to rap and hip hop, and I cheer for the British in stories about the American Revolution. And I've been severely disappointed by some hyped up and popular recent musicals (I'm looking at you, Book of Mormon).
But damn.
It's so good.
Hamilton exceeds the hype. I'm absolutely floored. Stand out tracks for me are the opening number ("Alexander Hamilton"), "My Shot," "You'll Be Back," "Helpless," the cabinet battles, "The World Was Wide Enough," and "Who Lives, Who Dies, Who Tells Your Story." I actually just decided to buy the book on how the musical came about for my Kindle, so I'll have something to read on the plane.
I hope that Lin-Manuel Miranda has more left in the well, because I want more from where Hamilton came from.
His next major project is writing songs for Disney's Moana, co-starring Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson as a pacific island demigod.
hamilton and burr's lives were intertwined to the point that, if their story were fiction, it would be universally shit on for being overly contrived
I just started reading through this thread. Is this a thing?
Hamilton and Burr essentially had the same career in the same city (on the same street) throughout their lives. They were colleagues throughout their lives, so it isn't actually that surprising.
hamilton and burr's lives were intertwined to the point that, if their story were fiction, it would be universally shit on for being overly contrived
I just started reading through this thread. Is this a thing?
Hamilton and Burr essentially had the same career in the same city (on the same street) throughout their lives. They were colleagues throughout their lives, so it isn't actually that surprising.
Well, except for the whole duel thing.
I was referring to how the two posts I quoted are very similar, not so much the content of them.
But yeah, it is funny how they run into each other. "We keep meeting."
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Holy shit.
Oh wait ok, Benedict Arnold's wife visits Aaron Burr's future wife immediately after duping Hamilton to dish on the story of how she did it
like, Philip really died exactly where his father would later on
oh also, one of the spies involved in the Battle of Yorktown lead-up was a black spy named James Armistead Lafayette, who spied on Benedict Arnold and after the war he wasn't granted his freedom because he was a spy, not a soldier
so then Marquis de Lafayette, who was his commander during the war, sends a letter or something that fully supports Armistead's bid for emancipation and when it's granted, Armistead takes Lafayette's name
That's probably partially it, but largely I think it's just because they were both in the same social class in the same place at the same time.
Still, Hamilton seems to have had a knack for being around history. He was dining with Benedict Arnold when he got news that his British courier had been captured, and just ran off, knowing he'd soon be found out. Hamilton was just like "WTF?" and it wasn't until later that Washington figured out what happened.
Also, if you haven't read the book, you should, it's real good. Here's Lin-Manuel Miranda reading the beginning of the book. It's... emotional.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKjE6zYk27I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPFDlLgSLfo
daaaaaaamn
Satans..... hints.....
I don't know, I think the world was wide enough even then
That's so fucked up
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Phillips Soo and Renee Elise Goldsberry are givens.
Miranda's gonna win everything else so do they give it to Leslie Odom Jr?
Christopher Jackson and Daveed Diggs is a tough, tough choice. (Sorry Groff)
Jackson is amazing but Daveed is downright otherworldly
There is no way they'll bypass the opportunity to give a Black George Washington a Tony. No way.
I mean C. Jackson owns it and brings so much weight. But i really doubt anyone can pull off those two roles as well as Daveed could.
Satans..... hints.....
Scenic design and lighting design definitely from what I've seen. Probably costume as well. But the scenic design is just amazing.
I find myself singing the chorus parts more often. I wonder if that's my subconscious talking. Hmmmm.
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The fuck do you do to compete with that?
But damn.
It's so good.
Hamilton exceeds the hype. I'm absolutely floored. Stand out tracks for me are the opening number ("Alexander Hamilton"), "My Shot," "You'll Be Back," "Helpless," the cabinet battles, "The World Was Wide Enough," and "Who Lives, Who Dies, Who Tells Your Story." I actually just decided to buy the book on how the musical came about for my Kindle, so I'll have something to read on the plane.
I hope that Lin-Manuel Miranda has more left in the well, because I want more from where Hamilton came from.
Mom: Hamilton... 16 nominations!
Me: How does the bastard, orphan, son of a whore and a Scotsman go on and on, grow into more of a phenomeno
Oops mucked the lyrics
Pretend I didn't, I'm supposed to be listening to this talk :P
Mom: Lol... Cause... You know... Working!
Me: I'm looking for a mind at work!
(whoa-ooh)
"Sandra has a good solid anti-murderer vibe. My skin felt very secure and sufficiently attached to my body when I met her. Also my organs." HAIL SATAN
And holy shit.
The line in "Wait for it" about is Grandfather being a fire and brimstone preacher?
Not "a" but "the". Aaron Burr is Jonathon Edwards's grandson.
Jonathon Edwards of the "Sinners in the Hand of an Angry God" sermon.
My mind is now further blown.
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sheeeesh.
Granted Aaron Burr was 2 when his grandfather died, so wasn't raised by him. But still. Having that legacy over your head? Good Grief.
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Wacky wacky wacky
Also, Non-Stop is such a great song. I love Miranda's delivery of "I was chosen for the constitutional convention!"
He's so adorably proud of himself
This fact is weird, because it seems like what they actually mean is that it's the first recorded murder trial. Because the Levi Weeks trial (which is the name used in the song) happened in 1799, which is waaaaaaaaay later than anything that happened in Non-Stop. But they had also been co counsels in a bunch of cases. Including one early on, where there's a story that they disagreed with who would do the opening speech, that when it came to actually giving it, Burr went first and tried to anticipate all the points that Hamilton would make and managed to basically give him nothing to say. And, apparently, it worked.
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That's 100 episodes of material right there.
Satans..... hints.....
So, it's the Colonial Odd Couple.
Satans..... hints.....
His next major project is writing songs for Disney's Moana, co-starring Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson as a pacific island demigod.
I just started reading through this thread. Is this a thing?
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Hamilton and Burr essentially had the same career in the same city (on the same street) throughout their lives. They were colleagues throughout their lives, so it isn't actually that surprising.
Well, except for the whole duel thing.
I was referring to how the two posts I quoted are very similar, not so much the content of them.
But yeah, it is funny how they run into each other. "We keep meeting."