Man I keep wanting to try some characters that I haven't gotten to try much yet but whenever I pick one of them someone else picks the same character right after I do, or the whole team will avoid picking a healer at all.
I don't get folks' aversion to playing a healer, the healers in this game are all rad as heck and super intuitive and fun to play.
I don't mind playing lucio or symmetra or zenyatta in the rare event there's not a widowmaker in game
But i refuse to play mercy because i don't want to play that particular playstyle. I get 0 enjoyment out of it, and if anyone says "play offensive mercy" i might as well just play a different character entirely in that case
I can only assume some people always want to be x where x is some offensive/sniper etc and don't enjoy anything else
Therrs nothing really wrong with that
Wtf even is an offensive mercy outside of mayyyybe you are in a game you have the skill to pubstomp? Mercy has a pistol...but it's hardly the point.
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Mercy became more fun for me once I started flying around healing multiple people and trying to boost people at just the right moment rather than tethering myself to one hero.
So much of this game is about making every action feel good. Getting hit by a flashbang and having your control be abruptly taken away feels bad, far more so than anything else in the game for me, probably because it's so sudden with so little visual representation.
Man I keep wanting to try some characters that I haven't gotten to try much yet but whenever I pick one of them someone else picks the same character right after I do, or the whole team will avoid picking a healer at all.
I don't get folks' aversion to playing a healer, the healers in this game are all rad as heck and super intuitive and fun to play.
I can literally have fun playing any of the healers/support....I have never said that about any other game, much less a shooter.
Man I keep wanting to try some characters that I haven't gotten to try much yet but whenever I pick one of them someone else picks the same character right after I do, or the whole team will avoid picking a healer at all.
I don't get folks' aversion to playing a healer, the healers in this game are all rad as heck and super intuitive and fun to play.
I don't mind playing lucio or symmetra or zenyatta in the rare event there's not a widowmaker in game
But i refuse to play mercy because i don't want to play that particular playstyle. I get 0 enjoyment out of it, and if anyone says "play offensive mercy" i might as well just play a different character entirely in that case
I can only assume some people always want to be x where x is some offensive/sniper etc and don't enjoy anything else
Therrs nothing really wrong with that
Wtf even is an offensive mercy outside of mayyyybe you are in a game you have the skill to pubstomp? Mercy has a pistol...but it's hardly the point.
Offensive Mercy is picking Soldier 76 after remembering to turn on teammate health in the UI options.
(Why teammate health isn't an option for every character in the game is beyond me. It's really important information! I wish I could turn health bars on and nameplates off).
But I'd like it if he at least couldn't throw his flashbang over Reinhardt's shield to stun him and drop the shield
That's pretty annoying
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There's zero doubt in my mind that McCree will see some sort of nerf
But I honestly have no idea whatsoever what it will end up being
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Man I keep wanting to try some characters that I haven't gotten to try much yet but whenever I pick one of them someone else picks the same character right after I do, or the whole team will avoid picking a healer at all.
I don't get folks' aversion to playing a healer, the healers in this game are all rad as heck and super intuitive and fun to play.
I don't mind playing lucio or symmetra or zenyatta in the rare event there's not a widowmaker in game
But i refuse to play mercy because i don't want to play that particular playstyle. I get 0 enjoyment out of it, and if anyone says "play offensive mercy" i might as well just play a different character entirely in that case
I can only assume some people always want to be x where x is some offensive/sniper etc and don't enjoy anything else
Therrs nothing really wrong with that
Wtf even is an offensive mercy outside of mayyyybe you are in a game you have the skill to pubstomp? Mercy has a pistol...but it's hardly the point.
I have seen some video of super redic folks who go nuts with that pistol...but yeah wicked exception to the rule.
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Her pistol is pretty much the same as D.Va's I think, so theoretically she could dump on dudes with it.
But her healing and boosting is so valuable that I don't see why you would most of the time.
It can be fun to murder someone who catches you out alone though.
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Mercy's pistol is actually higher DPS than you think. I definitely don't have it out at all times, but there are moments where putting down an opponent faster is more important than healing, and she serves that purpose pretty well.
Play style means so much in this game I swear...I have a hard time getting into any of the pure offense characters save for Phara. I just can't get any traction with them and find the struggle frustrating.
Mercy's pistol is actually higher DPS than you think. I definitely don't have it out at all times, but there are moments where putting down an opponent faster is more important than healing, and she serves that purpose pretty well.
Snagged an ulting Genji with the pistol as he charged towards me and then used my ult to pick up the Junkrat and Bastion he had killed to hold the payload and win at the end of King's Row.
Play style means so much in this game I swear...I have a hard time getting into any of the pure offense characters save for Phara. I just can't get any traction with them and find the struggle frustrating.
I mean I get that means I am part of the problem that I don't play support in games, but at least I don't cry for a support when I myself am not one.
Play style means so much in this game I swear...I have a hard time getting into any of the pure offense characters save for Phara. I just can't get any traction with them and find the struggle frustrating.
I mean I get that means I am part of the problem that I don't play support in games, but at least I don't cry for a support when I myself am not one.
I really don't think anything of it to be honest...If I am rolling with PA people we all tend to sort out into the rolls we are good at and that is what you are good at.
It doesn't make you a problem at all...In pub matches I am a little less forgiving sometimes because there will be this obvious bleeding need at like Tank and Support and Defense and nobody will come off their DPS and on top of that if I do roll with support they all abandon you and complain about the results. Then there is a problem.
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It's probably the visual indicator and the fact that it works at long range.
Like it's still a bad gun but I agree, it does alot of work that it shouldn't because the constant DPS is valuable if people are missing a bunch of shots.
I'm still never letting a friend of mine live down him having to wraith form away from me as D.Va though.
It's probably the visual indicator and the fact that it works at long range.
Like it's still a bad gun but I agree, it does alot of work that it shouldn't because the constant DPS is valuable if people are missing a bunch of shots.
I'm still never letting a friend of mine live down him having to wraith form away from me as D.Va though.
Dva's pistol will shred 200HP characters, especially if they're already softened up from your pulse cannons. If you can empty that clip into someone it's lovely (and almost completely recharges your mech)
of the supports, i enjoy zenyatta because he is the least supporty support
you can throw an injured teammate a harmony and then get back to sniping people with your balls
i tried lucio once and i think if i practiced a lot and got good at wall riding + using his projectile he'd be fun but it seems like without that you just kinda mill around and aura/Q for your team
and try to setup environmental kills i guess
It's probably the visual indicator and the fact that it works at long range.
Like it's still a bad gun but I agree, it does alot of work that it shouldn't because the constant DPS is valuable if people are missing a bunch of shots.
I'm still never letting a friend of mine live down him having to wraith form away from me as D.Va though.
Dva's pistol will shred 200HP characters, especially if they're already softened up from your pulse cannons. If you can empty that clip into someone it's lovely (and almost completely recharges your mech)
Shred is kinda relative. Like I said Mercy's pistol will do it faster and any other actual gun will be much better.
I love playing Symmetra because people do NOT respect her turrets, that shit hurts
I'm never getting POTG for it, but I'm usually on the leaderboard
Her shields are weird though, I'd expect damage to burn through those first but it seems like once I've shielded someone I can't re-shield them even after they take some damage
i enjoy zenyatta because he is the least supporty support
you can throw an injured teammate a harmony and then get back to sniping people with your balls
i tried lucio once and i think if i practiced a lot and got good at wall riding + using his projectile he'd be fun but it seems like without that you just kinda mill around and aura/Q for your team
and try to setup environmental kills i guess
If you aren't a good wall rider ( I am not) Lucio is also really good at playing hide and go shoot around the feet of the tanks. I tend hide behind Rinehardt or the Payload and hop out to finish off low health opponents or push them off ledges and then hop back. If you can stay on the move and keep the wub wub going he is a blast.
I love playing Symmetra because people do NOT respect her turrets, that shit hurts
I'm never getting POTG for it, but I'm usually on the leaderboard
Her shields are weird though, I'd expect damage to burn through those first but it seems like once I've shielded someone I can't re-shield them even after they take some damage
I have been trying to figure that out too....it seems like the shield needs to be totally gone
It's probably the visual indicator and the fact that it works at long range.
Like it's still a bad gun but I agree, it does alot of work that it shouldn't because the constant DPS is valuable if people are missing a bunch of shots.
I'm still never letting a friend of mine live down him having to wraith form away from me as D.Va though.
Dva's pistol will shred 200HP characters, especially if they're already softened up from your pulse cannons. If you can empty that clip into someone it's lovely (and almost completely recharges your mech)
Shred is kinda relative. Like I said Mercy's pistol will do it faster and any other actual gun will be much better.
You know what, you're absolutely right. Statistically speaking, literally everything in the game is better than Dva. Even though a full clip from behind kills characters, other characters are better and more fun. There's no reason I would ever agree with your statement that Dva''s light pistol does a lot of work and then be surprised that you'd jump in to remind me that it's still worse than everything else.
I just want to shoot mans and have fun, could you please stop being a buzzkill.
I got D Va's bunny hop emote but I have no idea how you use it on the PC?
by default, c pulls up the quick menu that has a bunch of stuff (emote, hello, voice line, some stuff that's meant to actually communicate useful info)
you can probably bind it directly but i'd think it's unbound by default
It's probably the visual indicator and the fact that it works at long range.
Like it's still a bad gun but I agree, it does alot of work that it shouldn't because the constant DPS is valuable if people are missing a bunch of shots.
I'm still never letting a friend of mine live down him having to wraith form away from me as D.Va though.
Dva's pistol will shred 200HP characters, especially if they're already softened up from your pulse cannons. If you can empty that clip into someone it's lovely (and almost completely recharges your mech)
Shred is kinda relative. Like I said Mercy's pistol will do it faster and any other actual gun will be much better.
You know what, you're absolutely right. Statistically speaking, literally everything in the game is better than Dva. Even though a full clip from behind kills characters, other characters are better and more fun. There's no reason I would ever agree with your statement that Dva''s light pistol does a lot of work and then be surprised that you'd jump in to remind me that it's still worse than everything else.
I just want to shoot mans and have fun, could you please stop being a buzzkill.
I wish I could make D.Va work for me, she's fun but I haven't figured her out like the other tanks yet. I just tend to die horribly. Which is a bummer because playing her reminds me of playing MAX suits in Planetside which I loved.
It's probably the visual indicator and the fact that it works at long range.
Like it's still a bad gun but I agree, it does alot of work that it shouldn't because the constant DPS is valuable if people are missing a bunch of shots.
I'm still never letting a friend of mine live down him having to wraith form away from me as D.Va though.
Dva's pistol will shred 200HP characters, especially if they're already softened up from your pulse cannons. If you can empty that clip into someone it's lovely (and almost completely recharges your mech)
Shred is kinda relative. Like I said Mercy's pistol will do it faster and any other actual gun will be much better.
You know what, you're absolutely right. Statistically speaking, literally everything in the game is better than Dva. Even though a full clip from behind kills characters, other characters are better and more fun. There's no reason I would ever agree with your statement that Dva''s light pistol does a lot of work and then be surprised that you'd jump in to remind me that it's still worse than everything else.
I just want to shoot mans and have fun, could you please stop being a buzzkill.
I wish I could make D.Va work for me, she's fun but I haven't figured her out like the other tanks yet. I just tend to die horribly. Which is a bummer because playing her reminds me of playing MAX suits in Planetside which I loved.
My experience with D.Va is that she's best played as a hit and run flanker or sniper harassment. Boost in with Defense Matrix, boost out when you can, always be boosting and looking for medpacs and gunning down people from behind or the side.
You don't win head-on vs DPS characters, thanks to your enormous headbox, so hit and run is the name of the game. Fall back with your main team whenever you're out of mech, it recharges fast if you're popping guys with your light gun.
When you guys are playing with a character you don't know well, do you user AI matches or just random pub games?
@JoeUser I am the worst person, in your pub games, pooping all over myself learning how to snipe/conc jump/winston. Because the AI games are just too easy. I DO avoid PA groups, but I can just suffer being thrown down down into matchmaking hell solo. It has the added benefit of when I DO start paying attention to team comps and characters I'm better with, you get a couple of games you might feel really really good about yourself.
I played in a PA group with you the other night, you were fine.
Unless, of course, I'm also so bad that you seemed skilled in comparison.
It's probably the visual indicator and the fact that it works at long range.
Like it's still a bad gun but I agree, it does alot of work that it shouldn't because the constant DPS is valuable if people are missing a bunch of shots.
I'm still never letting a friend of mine live down him having to wraith form away from me as D.Va though.
Dva's pistol will shred 200HP characters, especially if they're already softened up from your pulse cannons. If you can empty that clip into someone it's lovely (and almost completely recharges your mech)
Shred is kinda relative. Like I said Mercy's pistol will do it faster and any other actual gun will be much better.
You know what, you're absolutely right. Statistically speaking, literally everything in the game is better than Dva. Even though a full clip from behind kills characters, other characters are better and more fun. There's no reason I would ever agree with your statement that Dva''s light pistol does a lot of work and then be surprised that you'd jump in to remind me that it's still worse than everything else.
I just want to shoot mans and have fun, could you please stop being a buzzkill.
I wish I could make D.Va work for me, she's fun but I haven't figured her out like the other tanks yet. I just tend to die horribly. Which is a bummer because playing her reminds me of playing MAX suits in Planetside which I loved.
My experience with D.Va is that she's best played as a hit and run flanker or sniper harassment. Boost in with Defense Matrix, boost out when you can, always be boosting and looking for medpacs and gunning down people from behind or the side.
You don't win head-on vs DPS characters, thanks to your enormous headbox, so hit and run is the name of the game. Fall back with your main team whenever you're out of mech, it recharges fast if you're popping guys with your light gun.
Her hit and run just feels unintuitive to me, I guess. I love hit and run with Reaper, for example, but he's way faster than D.Va. What trips me up is that fact that her attack slows herself down, I think. I boost in with defense matrix up to try and ambush people, and am usually dead before boost comes back up to boost out. I feel like I lose 1v1s even starting from behind people. I'm sure I just need to spend more time messing around as her but, so far its been a rough education.
It's probably the visual indicator and the fact that it works at long range.
Like it's still a bad gun but I agree, it does alot of work that it shouldn't because the constant DPS is valuable if people are missing a bunch of shots.
I'm still never letting a friend of mine live down him having to wraith form away from me as D.Va though.
Dva's pistol will shred 200HP characters, especially if they're already softened up from your pulse cannons. If you can empty that clip into someone it's lovely (and almost completely recharges your mech)
Shred is kinda relative. Like I said Mercy's pistol will do it faster and any other actual gun will be much better.
You know what, you're absolutely right. Statistically speaking, literally everything in the game is better than Dva. Even though a full clip from behind kills characters, other characters are better and more fun. There's no reason I would ever agree with your statement that Dva''s light pistol does a lot of work and then be surprised that you'd jump in to remind me that it's still worse than everything else.
I just want to shoot mans and have fun, could you please stop being a buzzkill.
I wish I could make D.Va work for me, she's fun but I haven't figured her out like the other tanks yet. I just tend to die horribly. Which is a bummer because playing her reminds me of playing MAX suits in Planetside which I loved.
Pretty much think of yourself as fat tracer. Though rather than doing damage you shove people about, distract them and try and stay alive forever. The fact that she can spend the time most people would spend running form spawn in her mini D.Va mode is actually pretty rad.
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Wtf even is an offensive mercy outside of mayyyybe you are in a game you have the skill to pubstomp? Mercy has a pistol...but it's hardly the point.
That's great for you!
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I can literally have fun playing any of the healers/support....I have never said that about any other game, much less a shooter.
Offensive Mercy is picking Soldier 76 after remembering to turn on teammate health in the UI options.
(Why teammate health isn't an option for every character in the game is beyond me. It's really important information! I wish I could turn health bars on and nameplates off).
But I'd like it if he at least couldn't throw his flashbang over Reinhardt's shield to stun him and drop the shield
That's pretty annoying
But I honestly have no idea whatsoever what it will end up being
I have seen some video of super redic folks who go nuts with that pistol...but yeah wicked exception to the rule.
But her healing and boosting is so valuable that I don't see why you would most of the time.
It can be fun to murder someone who catches you out alone though.
Play style means so much in this game I swear...I have a hard time getting into any of the pure offense characters save for Phara. I just can't get any traction with them and find the struggle frustrating.
Snagged an ulting Genji with the pistol as he charged towards me and then used my ult to pick up the Junkrat and Bastion he had killed to hold the payload and win at the end of King's Row.
Felt pretty good.
I mean I get that means I am part of the problem that I don't play support in games, but at least I don't cry for a support when I myself am not one.
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It's actually, slightly, better than D.Va's pistol.
Still not great but good enough to make someone think twice if their aim isn't great and you're landing shots.
I really don't think anything of it to be honest...If I am rolling with PA people we all tend to sort out into the rolls we are good at and that is what you are good at.
It doesn't make you a problem at all...In pub matches I am a little less forgiving sometimes because there will be this obvious bleeding need at like Tank and Support and Defense and nobody will come off their DPS and on top of that if I do roll with support they all abandon you and complain about the results. Then there is a problem.
D-Va's Pistol shreds for me....I don't know why but something about it really clicks. I am better with that pistol than Tracers by a landslide.
Like it's still a bad gun but I agree, it does alot of work that it shouldn't because the constant DPS is valuable if people are missing a bunch of shots.
I'm still never letting a friend of mine live down him having to wraith form away from me as D.Va though.
As far as I've seen that sites 100% accurate right now. None of the values have being wrong that I've noticed anyway.
Dva's pistol will shred 200HP characters, especially if they're already softened up from your pulse cannons. If you can empty that clip into someone it's lovely (and almost completely recharges your mech)
you can throw an injured teammate a harmony and then get back to sniping people with your balls
i tried lucio once and i think if i practiced a lot and got good at wall riding + using his projectile he'd be fun but it seems like without that you just kinda mill around and aura/Q for your team
and try to setup environmental kills i guess
Shred is kinda relative. Like I said Mercy's pistol will do it faster and any other actual gun will be much better.
I'm never getting POTG for it, but I'm usually on the leaderboard
Her shields are weird though, I'd expect damage to burn through those first but it seems like once I've shielded someone I can't re-shield them even after they take some damage
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If you aren't a good wall rider ( I am not) Lucio is also really good at playing hide and go shoot around the feet of the tanks. I tend hide behind Rinehardt or the Payload and hop out to finish off low health opponents or push them off ledges and then hop back. If you can stay on the move and keep the wub wub going he is a blast.
I have been trying to figure that out too....it seems like the shield needs to be totally gone
Aha, this makes sense for what I've seen with the health bars then, thanks!
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You know what, you're absolutely right. Statistically speaking, literally everything in the game is better than Dva. Even though a full clip from behind kills characters, other characters are better and more fun. There's no reason I would ever agree with your statement that Dva''s light pistol does a lot of work and then be surprised that you'd jump in to remind me that it's still worse than everything else.
I just want to shoot mans and have fun, could you please stop being a buzzkill.
you can probably bind it directly but i'd think it's unbound by default
Hold c for the chat wheel and choose emote.
I wish I could make D.Va work for me, she's fun but I haven't figured her out like the other tanks yet. I just tend to die horribly. Which is a bummer because playing her reminds me of playing MAX suits in Planetside which I loved.
My experience with D.Va is that she's best played as a hit and run flanker or sniper harassment. Boost in with Defense Matrix, boost out when you can, always be boosting and looking for medpacs and gunning down people from behind or the side.
You don't win head-on vs DPS characters, thanks to your enormous headbox, so hit and run is the name of the game. Fall back with your main team whenever you're out of mech, it recharges fast if you're popping guys with your light gun.
I played in a PA group with you the other night, you were fine.
Unless, of course, I'm also so bad that you seemed skilled in comparison.
Her hit and run just feels unintuitive to me, I guess. I love hit and run with Reaper, for example, but he's way faster than D.Va. What trips me up is that fact that her attack slows herself down, I think. I boost in with defense matrix up to try and ambush people, and am usually dead before boost comes back up to boost out. I feel like I lose 1v1s even starting from behind people. I'm sure I just need to spend more time messing around as her but, so far its been a rough education.
Pretty much think of yourself as fat tracer. Though rather than doing damage you shove people about, distract them and try and stay alive forever. The fact that she can spend the time most people would spend running form spawn in her mini D.Va mode is actually pretty rad.