Theodore Flooseveltproud parent of eight beautiful girls and shalmelodorne (which is currently being ruled by a woman (awesome role model for my daughters)) #dornedadRegistered Userregular
So they're just going to repeat that until it becomes the narrative and it won't matter what actually happened
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The 538 preview podcast reminded me that television is still the preferred medium that voters get their information. I dont think twitter matters too much
Essentially they were mod endorsed, Maxim level soft porn threads. They were pretty horrible and I'm glad we got rid of them. Unbelievably, that was actually a politically difficult thing to do.
Looking at political threads from 8 years ago, the difference in gendered language was pretty surprising.
I guess we've all grown up a bit.
Wang.
Ten years ago the forum probably would've voted Trump.
I went back to see how terrible I was once and it was pretty bad. I don't recommend it.
The forums were bad 10 years ago, but I don't think they were "vote trump!" bad
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
Essentially they were mod endorsed, Maxim level soft porn threads. They were pretty horrible and I'm glad we got rid of them. Unbelievably, that was actually a politically difficult thing to do.
Looking at political threads from 8 years ago, the difference in gendered language was pretty surprising.
I guess we've all grown up a bit.
Wang.
Ten years ago the forum probably would've voted Trump.
I went back to see how terrible I was once and it was pretty bad. I don't recommend it.
The forums were bad 10 years ago, but I don't think they were "vote trump!" bad
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
The forums were staunchly for Obama eight years ago, like hell the forums would have been for that dried up Cheeto.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
So they're just going to repeat that until it becomes the narrative and it won't matter what actually happened
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The 538 preview podcast reminded me that television is still the preferred medium that voters get their information. I dont think twitter matters too much
Social media is not where the few remaining undecided voters are
So they're just going to repeat that until it becomes the narrative and it won't matter what actually happened
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The 538 preview podcast reminded me that television is still the preferred medium that voters get their information. I dont think twitter matters too much
Social media is not where the few remaining undecided voters are
Yeah. Trump's very concerned with his Twitter numbers because he sees this entire thing as a popularity contest and social media feeds his ego well. A large portion of the voter pool does not know what Twitter is. Those that do, long since made up their minds
Essentially they were mod endorsed, Maxim level soft porn threads. They were pretty horrible and I'm glad we got rid of them. Unbelievably, that was actually a politically difficult thing to do.
Looking at political threads from 8 years ago, the difference in gendered language was pretty surprising.
I guess we've all grown up a bit.
Wang.
Ten years ago the forum probably would've voted Trump.
I went back to see how terrible I was once and it was pretty bad. I don't recommend it.
The forums were bad 10 years ago, but I don't think they were "vote trump!" bad
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
The forums were staunchly for Obama eight years ago, like hell the forums would have been for that dried up Cheeto.
We had multipage threads about the difference between feminists and feminazis.
I think the fatal flaw of Trump's "Secretary Clinton" strategy is that nobody in the history of the earth has used "Secretary" as an honorific for their office assistant. If he wanted to conjure an image of a woman being pressed down under the glass ceiling, sending faxes and fetching coffee, that was the wrong ass thing to do.
The only people who ever get to be "Secretary [Surname]" are people who are involved in high-ranking positions in very serious and influential organizations. Especially with the zeitgeist being somewhat fixated currently on a couple gentlemen you may recall as Secretary Jefferson and Secretary Hamilton.
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I think the fatal flaw of Trump's "Secretary Clinton" strategy is that nobody in the history of the earth has used "Secretary" as an honorific for their office assistant. If he wanted to conjure an image of a woman being pressed down under the glass ceiling, sending faxes and fetching coffee, that was the wrong ass thing to do.
Oh god. I wondered why he was doing that and it didn't even occur to me that's what he was trying to do. That makes so much fucking sense now. What a piece of garbage.
I am like 99% certain that if Trump loses, there won't be a concession speech.
He completely snubbed Lester Holt last night. That's what happens when he loses.
he did actually shake hands with Holt at the end.
He hasn't really gone after Holt's moderation as much as I expected - it seems his surrogates are going to try to portray it as a hatchet job but trump himself (or his campaign handlers?) seems to recognize that high profile feuds with moderators over fair moderation isn't a winning strategy. Although I guess it hasn't been that long so maybe?
A friendly PSA; if you're considering going down the #TrumpWon hole, don't.
Just...
Don't.
There are some gems nestled in there, but for the most part it's a maddening white privilege circle jerk.
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Just keep in mind, one bad debate performance does not sink a candidate, any more than a good one wins it. I still remember the first Obama/McCain debate, where Obama looked horrible and Andrew Sullivan was declaring it the end of the world. Obviously, Obama came back and was very different in the next two.
Just keep in mind, one bad debate performance does not sink a candidate, any more than a good one wins it. I still remember the first Obama/McCain debate, where Obama looked horrible and Andrew Sullivan was declaring it the end of the world. Obviously, Obama came back and was very different in the next two.
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I feel that next debate it would be an easy statement to point out trump, "we checked every time in the last debate, when you said, I didn't say that, it turned out every time you did in fact say that"
I feel that next debate it would be an easy statement to point out trump, "we checked every time in the last debate, when you said, I didn't say that, it turned out every time you did in fact say that"
"Um, excuse me, I have never said 'I never said that.' You can go back and check, call Sean Hannity - he'll tell you that I never said 'I never said that' "
I feel that next debate it would be an easy statement to point out trump, "we checked every time in the last debate, when you said, I didn't say that, it turned out every time you did in fact say that"
"Um, excuse me, I have never said 'I never said that.' You can go back and check, call Sean Hannity - he'll tell you that I never said 'I never said that' "
*sniff*
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
I feel that next debate it would be an easy statement to point out trump, "we checked every time in the last debate, when you said, I didn't say that, it turned out every time you did in fact say that"
"Um, excuse me, I have never said 'I never said that.' You can go back and check, call Sean Hannity - he'll tell you that I never said 'I never said that' "
*sniff*
*snoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooort*
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
The main difference between Obama and Trump is that Obama's issue was that his disdain for Romney ended up putting him in a position to be unprepared and blindsided, while Trump can't stop and consider for five seconds that maybe he can let it slide when someone pokes fun at him, especially when he's on a debate stage in front of millions of Americans.
Obama turned it around by acknowledging his mistakes and learning from them; I seriously doubt Trump has the emotional maturity or the campaign staff to do the same thing. He's always going to be a thin skinned blowhard who can't let a personal slight go, no matter how minor, and as long as Hillary keeps needling him, she can keep him on tilt and exacerbate his image as an unrefined bully who lacks the temperament to be President.
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I feel that next debate it would be an easy statement to point out trump, "we checked every time in the last debate, when you said, I didn't say that, it turned out every time you did in fact say that"
"Um, excuse me, I have never said 'I never said that.' You can go back and check, call Sean Hannity - he'll tell you that I never said 'I never said that' "
"See I never said things just to say them, what do you think I'm just gonna go on Howard Stern and tell him that I guess I support invading Iraq, cmon. I have a little more sense than that..Yea I told Howard we should go in there."
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Essentially they were mod endorsed, Maxim level soft porn threads. They were pretty horrible and I'm glad we got rid of them. Unbelievably, that was actually a politically difficult thing to do.
Looking at political threads from 8 years ago, the difference in gendered language was pretty surprising.
I guess we've all grown up a bit.
Wang.
Ten years ago the forum probably would've voted Trump.
I went back to see how terrible I was once and it was pretty bad. I don't recommend it.
The forums were bad 10 years ago, but I don't think they were "vote trump!" bad
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
The forums were staunchly for Obama eight years ago, like hell the forums would have been for that dried up Cheeto.
We had multipage threads about the difference between feminists and feminazis.
That's before we get to the Ranger threads.
We were pretty bad.
You underestimate the range and variety of folk who vote democrat
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Just keep in mind, one bad debate performance does not sink a candidate, any more than a good one wins it. I still remember the first Obama/McCain debate, where Obama looked horrible and Andrew Sullivan was declaring it the end of the world. Obviously, Obama came back and was very different in the next two.
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A few months ago, I asked what my dad's thoughts were on the presidential candidates. He's intelligent, highly educated, financially successful, and has a background in economics and business, so he can provide a pretty detailed explanation for why he hates both Bernie Sanders and Clinton's economic policies. After a bit of a rant, he said that he would hold his nose and vote for Trump. Last night I asked him what his takeaway from the debate was. He told me that one of the president's jobs is to make speeches to educate the American public, but Trump doesn't seem to be capable of verbalizing a coherent thought. I didn't ask for anything else because I didn't want to sit through a lecture, but here's hoping that Trump's blatant incompetence will at some point become more important than my pop's opinion that "every idea Hillary has is horrible."
Trump could've stated that the present strategy of "targeting leaders" has overall not been very successful in fighting Islamic terrorism and there are wider issues with it
The main difference between Obama and Trump is that Obama's issue was that his disdain for Romney ended up putting him in a position to be unprepared blindsided, while Trump can't stop and consider for five seconds that maybe he can let it slide when someone pokes fun at him, especially when he's on a debate stage in front of millions of Americans.
Obama turned it around by acknowledging his mistakes and learning from them; I seriously doubt Trump has the emotional maturity or the campaign staff to do the same thing. He's always going to be a thin skinned blowhard who can't let a personal slight go, no matter how minor, and as long as Hillary keeps needling him, she can keep him on tilt and exacerbate his image as an unrefined bully who lacks the temperament to be President.
This is really a winning strategy for her that I think helped her A TON in last night's debate and I think is an almost guaranteed winning strategy in any future debates. Simply put:
1) When Donald needles her, she intentionally avoids looking frustrated or upset about it. She gives him a shit-eating grin to convey that, first of all, she aint even mad; and second of all, bless Donald's heart (in that condescending southern way).
2) Say things that ruffle Donald's feathers, then just stand back and watch him hang himself.
3) Allow the contrast between "he's a gasping, sniffling, groaning, frustrated tantrum-thrower" and "I'm an emotionally-in-control strategist who is playing this narcissist like a fiddle" to sink in.
She pulled this off big time and will do it again, because if there is one thing we know about Donald, it's that he utterly lacks the self-control to overcome this strategy. He is too chronically narcissistic. He might weakly resist it for a while, but he will always cave to his narcissism. He can't resist.
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God, I hope that isn't the one thing undecided voters hear about the debate.
I don't doubt for a second that it is, if my work place and the idiocy of facebook are any indication. Trump really is the pigeon that shits on the chess board and struts around like he won.
God, I hope that isn't the one thing undecided voters hear about the debate.
I don't doubt for a second that it is, if my work place and the idiocy of facebook are any indication. Trump really is the pigeon that shits on the chess board and struts around like he won.
Haha, is this a real figure of speech? I've never heard this before, but I love it.
One thing that's been consistent for his entire political run is that he is incapable of admitting fault or acknowledging a mistake and fixing it later. He doubles down on literally everything. Even the birther "walkback" was just him saying that he never did half the stuff and that he actually fixed the problem himself.
There's no chance that he sees his performance last night and works to make it better for the next debate.
God, I hope that isn't the one thing undecided voters hear about the debate.
I don't doubt for a second that it is, if my work place and the idiocy of facebook are any indication. Trump really is the pigeon that shits on the chess board and struts around like he won.
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The 538 preview podcast reminded me that television is still the preferred medium that voters get their information. I dont think twitter matters too much
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That sums up his campaign perfectly.
The forums were bad 10 years ago, but I don't think they were "vote trump!" bad
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
The forums were staunchly for Obama eight years ago, like hell the forums would have been for that dried up Cheeto.
Had I not been here I could easily see myself going down the path of trump voter, as I'm surrounded by them.
This will be here until I receive an apology or Weedlordvegeta get any consequences for being a bully
Social media is not where the few remaining undecided voters are
Yeah. Trump's very concerned with his Twitter numbers because he sees this entire thing as a popularity contest and social media feeds his ego well. A large portion of the voter pool does not know what Twitter is. Those that do, long since made up their minds
We had multipage threads about the difference between feminists and feminazis.
That's before we get to the Ranger threads.
We were pretty bad.
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The only people who ever get to be "Secretary [Surname]" are people who are involved in high-ranking positions in very serious and influential organizations. Especially with the zeitgeist being somewhat fixated currently on a couple gentlemen you may recall as Secretary Jefferson and Secretary Hamilton.
Oh god. I wondered why he was doing that and it didn't even occur to me that's what he was trying to do. That makes so much fucking sense now. What a piece of garbage.
He hasn't really gone after Holt's moderation as much as I expected - it seems his surrogates are going to try to portray it as a hatchet job but trump himself (or his campaign handlers?) seems to recognize that high profile feuds with moderators over fair moderation isn't a winning strategy. Although I guess it hasn't been that long so maybe?
Just...
Don't.
There are some gems nestled in there, but for the most part it's a maddening white privilege circle jerk.
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Obviously, you don't
The bad debate performance was against Romney
Satans..... hints.....
"Um, excuse me, I have never said 'I never said that.' You can go back and check, call Sean Hannity - he'll tell you that I never said 'I never said that' "
*sniff*
*snoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooort*
Obama turned it around by acknowledging his mistakes and learning from them; I seriously doubt Trump has the emotional maturity or the campaign staff to do the same thing. He's always going to be a thin skinned blowhard who can't let a personal slight go, no matter how minor, and as long as Hillary keeps needling him, she can keep him on tilt and exacerbate his image as an unrefined bully who lacks the temperament to be President.
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"See I never said things just to say them, what do you think I'm just gonna go on Howard Stern and tell him that I guess I support invading Iraq, cmon. I have a little more sense than that..Yea I told Howard we should go in there."
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You underestimate the range and variety of folk who vote democrat
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This is really a winning strategy for her that I think helped her A TON in last night's debate and I think is an almost guaranteed winning strategy in any future debates. Simply put:
1) When Donald needles her, she intentionally avoids looking frustrated or upset about it. She gives him a shit-eating grin to convey that, first of all, she aint even mad; and second of all, bless Donald's heart (in that condescending southern way).
2) Say things that ruffle Donald's feathers, then just stand back and watch him hang himself.
3) Allow the contrast between "he's a gasping, sniffling, groaning, frustrated tantrum-thrower" and "I'm an emotionally-in-control strategist who is playing this narcissist like a fiddle" to sink in.
She pulled this off big time and will do it again, because if there is one thing we know about Donald, it's that he utterly lacks the self-control to overcome this strategy. He is too chronically narcissistic. He might weakly resist it for a while, but he will always cave to his narcissism. He can't resist.
I don't doubt for a second that it is, if my work place and the idiocy of facebook are any indication. Trump really is the pigeon that shits on the chess board and struts around like he won.
Haha, is this a real figure of speech? I've never heard this before, but I love it.
There's no chance that he sees his performance last night and works to make it better for the next debate.
My assumption was that her team probably had a ground-rule that he was not to use cute/insulting nicknames for Hillary during the debate.
that is a freakishly accurate image