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USA Presidential Election 2016: Galoot Debate

StericaSterica YesRegistered User, Moderator mod
edited September 2016 in Social Entropy++
DEBATE INFO

When: 9pm EDT
Where: Hempstead, NY
How: Literally every channel is pretty much airing this. Facebook will be livestreaming, and I imagine YouTube shall as well.


The country that brought you World of Warcraft is having an election! For president! It's the head of the USA's executive branch, and arguably the most powerful position that any one person on the planet can hold. This kind of election only happens once every four years, so you gotta enjoy it while it lasts! Let's have a good time and talk about all the hilarious ups and downs of this election season. Warning: sometimes it may be less hilarious, and more soul-crushing!

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Previously in the POTUS Thread...
September has been a tumultuous month for the Clinton camp, with the Donald dramatically closing the gap and bringing things to a statistical tie. This can be blamed on a number of things: an article a few weeks ago claiming donors to the Clinton Foundation got special access to the Secretary of State (this was wildly exaggerated, but you repeat a lie enough...), more email news, and it turns out Clinton was sick and passed out during a 9/11 event. Of course she just had pneumonia as opposed to the hyper brain cancer the right wants you to believe. A bit rich from the party that brought us Dick Cheney, the man whose body kept rejecting its heart. The good news is that Clinton seems to be back on the upswing, and the race seems to be trending back towards a slight Clinton advantage.

But this doesn't mean dick, because the first debate is Monday and that changes everything. It's been suggested that this debate will have a YUGE viewership, on par with the Super Bowl if you believe the hype. Performance will set the pace for the election as we enter October, the final month when things get real heated.

Would you like to know more? Read the previous threads...
  1. Bad Hair Day
  2. Over the Hegemony
  3. Screams from My Father
  4. Vice Vice Baby
  5. A Ring of Liar
  6. A Day at the Racist
  7. Straight Outta Breitbart
  8. A Hard Day's Right

In the Blue Corner...

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Hillary "Coughin'" Clinton
68 Years Old
Former Secretary of State and Senator


Strengths: She did well in the primary debates, and she's favored to win. Again, she's the regular candidate, which means her role will be that of the adult in the room. If she can hold Trump to his claims and force him to extrapolate upon them, then she may regain the dominating lead she enjoyed throughout August. In addition, she has an actual agenda and can win a lot of points just by mapping out her plans in a clear, concise fashion with none of the grandiose claims her opponent will undoubtedly make. Oh, and Clinton has experience in actual debates, whereas her opponent debated in bizarre circuses that had way the fuck too many people present.

Weaknesses: Regardless of what you may think, the public sees Clinton as one with a mausoleum in her closet. If Trump keeps her on the defensive and forced to (yet again) explain shit like the emails, Benghazi, her health, the debate may end with her looking untrustworthy and weak. Certain moderators are already saying that it isn't their job to fact-check, which in the real world is known as "moderating", so she'll have to expose any bullshit herself.

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Tim "I'm Still Here" Kaine
58 Years Old
Senator, Former Governor of Virginia and DNC Chair


Strengths: Coming October 4th!

Weaknesses: Coming October 4th!

In the Red Corner...

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Donald "Skittles" Trump
70 Years Old
he's allowed to run


Strengths: He's a media hound with no filter. He could win just by saying lie upon lie and leaving his opponent to buried in bullshit to muster a proper defense. Trump's actual platform is so flimsy it couldn't house a pair of shoes, so his primary strategy is attack attack attack. The goal here isn't to get people to like him, but to distrust Clinton enough to stay home. He's already browbeating moderators against "bias" which is code for "Don't call me out on my bullshit." If he can bully Holt, then other moderators may fall in line and let Trump's crap go unopposed.

Weaknesses: If he's fact-checked, he's screwed. A lot of his claims are just wishful thinking that the right ate up earlier this year, but over in reality people aren't quite as easily fooled. His malarky during the primary won people over, but being a rude bully via constant interruptions is going to make him look unpresidential and childish. Can Trump act like an adult and wait his turn?

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"Stern" Mike Pence
57 Years Old
Governor of Indiana


Strengths: Coming October 4th!

Weaknesses: Coming October 4th!

FAQ

Who are our tragic third-party candidates?

Jill Stein (with running mate Ajamu Baraka) is running on the Green Party ticket, and Gary Johnson (with running mate Bill Weld) is the Libertarian candidate. There's other perennial candidates, such as Vermin Supreme, but I'd be here all day rattling off those.

What's a battleground?

A state that is polling more or less in the middle is considered a battleground. Because solidly Republican or Democratic states would require too much time and money to make even a dent in polls, candidates focus on the handful of states that are feasible to turn. Now, this doesn't mean that voting in a "stronghold" state is pointless. After all, many battleground states were at one point or another considered reliable votes for one party or the other, and people do pay attention to shifts in polls even if the overall outcome hasn't quite changed yet.

States "in play" this election include Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Wisconsin. Oh, and apparently Georgia now?

When are the debates?

September 26, 2016
October 4, 2016 (VP)
October 9, 2016
October 19, 2016

When is Election Day?

November 8th, 2016

How long do I have to register to vote?

It varies by state

November 8th is kinda busy for me. Can I vote early?

It varies by state, although some states don't allow for early voting at all.

I want to vote from a safe distance. What are my options for citizens abroad?

This should help you out.

Note that this should also be useful for people who are still in the States but will be in another state/city/etc from wherever they're registered come election day.

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Seriously though, jokes aside

    Ted Cruz has murdered and he will murder again

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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    This OP has practically nothing about societal attitudes toward penises. I'm tempted to report it for lacking topical content.

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    Dongs GaloreDongs Galore Registered User regular
    Trump advocates stop-and-frisk confiscation of firearms

    i guess that's a kind of 2nd amendment solution

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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    Trump advocates stop-and-frisk confiscation of firearms

    i guess that's a kind of 2nd amendment solution

    "HE'S GONNA TAKE AWAY OUR GUNS!

    Oh, only for black people? Nevermind, it's fine."

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Trump advocates stop-and-frisk confiscation of firearms

    i guess that's a kind of 2nd amendment solution

    The modern NRA crowd has always been for the peaceful exercise of one's Second Amendment rights, up until the underclass does so. See the restrictions on open carry in California, signed into law by none other than St. Ronnie himself.

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    PwnanObrienPwnanObrien He's right, life sucks. Registered User regular
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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
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    QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    Flymo your OPs are the best.

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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    Flymo you say that you don't want to rattle off irrelevant third party candidates but you list Jill Stein and not Harambe. Are you in the pocket of Big Zoo?

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    StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    At 17 years old, Harambe does not meet the requirements of the office.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    At 17 years old, Harambe does not meet the requirements of the office.

    Ah, but convert it into Gorilla years.

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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    He does in my heart... :cry:

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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    At 17 years old, Harambe does not meet the requirements of the office.

    Ah, but convert it into Gorilla years.

    Surprisingly enough Gorilla's lifespan in the wild is about half the lifespan of a human, so he'd just barely qualify in Gorilla years.

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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    At 17 years old, Harambe does not meet the requirements of the office.

    Ah, but convert it into Gorilla years.

    I don't believe the Constitution allows for that.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    At 17 years old, Harambe does not meet the requirements of the office.

    Ah, but convert it into Gorilla years.

    I don't believe the Constitution allows for that.

    There's nothing in the Constitution that says a Gorilla can't be President.

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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    At 17 years old, Harambe does not meet the requirements of the office.

    Ah, but convert it into Gorilla years.

    I don't believe the Constitution allows for that.

    There's nothing in the Constitution that says a Gorilla can't be President.

    Well, you're the lawyer, so I guess I'll take your word for it.

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    StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    milski wrote: »
    At 17 years old, Harambe does not meet the requirements of the office.

    Ah, but convert it into Gorilla years.

    Surprisingly enough Gorilla's lifespan in the wild is about half the lifespan of a human, so he'd just barely qualify in Gorilla years.
    But Harambe was a captive gorilla.

    Check and mate

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    JarsJars Registered User regular
    what is going on with this charlotte thing. the family put out a video but I can't watch a video of some guy getting shot

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    TallahasseerielTallahasseeriel Registered User regular
    I just looked up my polling place.

    They had a sample ballot.

    I kinda think I need to research more of the other local offices and who is running.

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    Romanian My EscutcheonRomanian My Escutcheon Two of Forks Registered User regular
    At 17 years old, Harambe does not meet the requirements of the office.

    Ah, but convert it into Gorilla years.

    I don't believe the Constitution allows for that.

    Fun fact, if you read the back of the Constitution, it says "No Memes."

    It's in invisible ink though, so you have to cover it in lemon juice and heat it up with a blow dryer.

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    StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    Ben Franklin was the original shitposter

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    JarsJars Registered User regular
    Uriel wrote: »
    I just looked up my polling place.

    They had a sample ballot.

    I kinda think I need to research more of the other local offices and who is running.

    here's what you do

    go find someone with a trump sign that has a bunch of other signs up with it

    don't vote for any of those people

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    No, the back of the constitution is where the treasure map is hidden.

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    JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    edited September 2016
    Jars wrote: »
    what is going on with this charlotte thing. the family put out a video but I can't watch a video of some guy getting shot

    It's even more complicated than most police shootings.
    • Keith Scott was fatally shot by police while sitting in his car.
    • The police were trying to serve a warrant for someone else.
    • The police say that he was armed with a gun and posed an immediate threat to the officers.
    • His family insists that he was just reading a book.
    • The chief of police has publicly refused to release dashboard camera footage, and the officers were not wearing bodycams.
    • The cell phone video does not show whether or not Scott had a gun.

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    Romanian My EscutcheonRomanian My Escutcheon Two of Forks Registered User regular
    Enlong wrote: »
    No, the back of the constitution is where the treasure map is hidden.

    Are you talking about that fucking dumb Nic Cage movie?

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    Romanian My EscutcheonRomanian My Escutcheon Two of Forks Registered User regular
    (Another fun fact; National Treasure is my favorite Nic Cage movie and my favorite Bruckheimer movie. The second one blew, though.)

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    JarsJars Registered User regular
    I don't get why cruz is endorsing trump now. it's not like he has anything to gain at this point

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    A duck!A duck! Moderator, ClubPA mod
    Jars wrote: »
    I don't get why cruz is endorsing trump now. it's not like he has anything to gain at this point

    His main money/publicity boosters threw their money behind Trump.

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    JarsJars Registered User regular
    is he up for senate re-election or something because he could have faded into the shadows for a while

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    DedwrekkaDedwrekka Metal Hell adjacentRegistered User regular
    Jars wrote: »
    I don't get why cruz is endorsing trump now. it's not like he has anything to gain at this point

    He's from a perma-red state. Being the guy in the party who didn't back the presidential candidate is going to see the party back another candidate for his seat. He has more to lose because being the republican from a republican state makes him expendable if he rocks the boat. The state is so locked down that the only thing he has to worry about is whether the party chooses to back someone else within the party, he doesn't even have to worry about running against people outside of his party.

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    fightinfilipinofightinfilipino Angry as Hell #BLMRegistered User regular
    i had more respect for the Zodiac Killer when he stuck to his principles.

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    I really hope that endorsing Trump ends up blowing up in all of these spineless Republicans faces when this is all said and done.

    I'm not optimistic, but that in my mind would be maybe the best possible outcome from all of this.

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    Der Waffle MousDer Waffle Mous Blame this on the misfortune of your birth. New Yark, New Yark.Registered User regular
    i had more respect for the Zodiac Killer when he stuck to his principles.

    Were they ever principles, though?

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Jars wrote: »
    is he up for senate re-election or something because he could have faded into the shadows for a while

    2018, but if Trump loses that doesn't suddenly make what he did any more palatable to his money backers.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    JusticeforPlutoJusticeforPluto Registered User regular
    Where are the hot takes on presidential fucking prowess?

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    fightinfilipinofightinfilipino Angry as Hell #BLMRegistered User regular
    i had more respect for the Zodiac Killer when he stuck to his principles.

    Were they ever principles, though?

    are there any missing from Texas schools? at some point they used to be.

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    Romanian My EscutcheonRomanian My Escutcheon Two of Forks Registered User regular
    One more fun fact; I'm ready for this election to be over and for Trump to crawl back to whatever pile of noxious waste he gestated from.

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