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First [Presidential Debate] Monday Sept 26, 9 PM EST at Hostra University

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    amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    Then again this is currently the 5th highest voted question.



    If elected will you secure the border?

    I live in the border state of Arizona and I do not feel safe.
    Submitted by: Nancy K. from AZ
    Sept. 26, 2016, 4 p.m.
    Issue area: Foreign Policy & Military

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    nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular


    I mean that's basically shitty analysis, too, but it's amazing they still don't understand Trump. Or they have so bought into the idea that he must be rational because he won the nomination of a major party.

    Because figuring out what Trumps gobbledygook actually means is our job.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    If anything they should do like Holt did, claim they aren't going to fact check and then put fact checked questions in the debate itself.

    That and tell him if he can't handle a moderator then he should withdraw.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    Wraith260Wraith260 Happiest Goomba! Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    Yeah they aren't going to ask the most voted question which is probably something about why hillary is a nazi.

    which would no doubt be a question submitted by and up voted by actual nazis. this election certainly is special.

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    jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    Atomika wrote: »

    :eek:

    why

    why are they doubling down on this

    with so many better ways to be wrong and stupid

    why

    why this

    this widely-known, easily fact-checked truth

    I can't even begin to understand what the fuck is even happening here

    I don't know either.

    It's infuriating to watch this imbecile up there and people come to his defense.

    Everyone thinking about voting for him should be fucking embarrassed.

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    MvrckMvrck Dwarven MountainhomeRegistered User regular
    edited September 2016
    @Quid
    Tossed this one into voting for you!
    Please explain what you see as America's path forward with force projection.
    Expansion/contraction of the drone program; Naval and Air fleet capabilities; cyber warfare; Nuclear policy, etc.

    https://presidentialopenquestions.com/questions/2437/vote/

    Mvrck on
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    HounHoun Registered User regular
    Quoting myself from the other thread (maybe it's time to close this one, they're overlapping):

    Again, right on the top of the page:
    ABC and CNN moderators agreed to consider the Top 30 questions voted up on this site!

    Emphasis mine, but you get the point.

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    SchrodingerSchrodinger Registered User regular
    Then again this is currently the 5th highest voted question.



    If elected will you secure the border?

    I live in the border state of Arizona and I do not feel safe.
    Submitted by: Nancy K. from AZ
    Sept. 26, 2016, 4 p.m.
    Issue area: Foreign Policy & Military

    1497 votes.

    Or basically 0.0015% of the total electorate.

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    SchrodingerSchrodinger Registered User regular
    Also, who wants to bet that the Russian spambots are working double duty on these questions?

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Also, who wants to bet that the Russian spambots are working double duty on these questions?

    No no its 400 pound dudes in their moms basement.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    Solomaxwell6Solomaxwell6 Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    Yeah they aren't going to ask the most voted question which is probably something about why hillary is a nazi.

    The current most voted question doesn't actually explicitly name anyone, but...
    Why are government officials who fail to protect classified info not prosecuted?
    Former high-ranking government officials "were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information." Many citizens have been convicted of far less. Why not these?

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    OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
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    PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    Also, who wants to bet that the Russian spambots are working double duty on these questions?

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Wow that's a thing.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    Uh I mean yes probably! Almost definitely fellow American comrade!

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    SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    Wait is that accurate? Can you tell where a hashtag started?

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    jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    If that doesn't get picked up on I'm done.

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    MaguanoMaguano Registered User regular
    Holy hell those questions.

    Just sort by "fewest votes" and go from there.

    hell, sort by most votes is basically the same

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    Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    Hah, Giuliani saying Trump should skip the next debates, while on MSNBC last night Christie unloaded on John Podesta for saying Trump might not show up after that shellacking.

    Nice on message work from your surrogates that is.

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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    Wait is that accurate? Can you tell where a hashtag started?

    Absolutely. Instagram and Twitter both track location data by default, unless you opt out (if you even can), is my understanding. And even if GPS data isn't available, they can always use IP data.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular

    That can't be real, but we should make it real.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    autono-wally, erotibot300autono-wally, erotibot300 love machine Registered User regular
    Knight_ wrote: »
    BTW, the Trump subreddit and /pol/ are currently rigging every online poll they can find about the debate

    Website polls are always trash for anything, but no time are they more flaming, festering trash than after a presidential debate. That being said they probably don't even have to bother brigading the online polls since I assume Russian spambots are already doing it for them.

    The online polls are very clearly harshly manipulated. This needs to be public knowledge, else someone might think anyone really thought Trump won this
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    Wait is that accurate? Can you tell where a hashtag started?

    Apparently, this site does that, but it's paid

    http://trendsmap.com/topic/#trumpwon#

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    SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    Drez wrote: »
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    Wait is that accurate? Can you tell where a hashtag started?

    Absolutely. Instagram and Twitter both track location data by default, unless you opt out (if you even can), is my understanding. And even if GPS data isn't available, they can always use IP data.

    Alright I see that guy's chart. How do I get my own chart/where did he get that? This sounds fascinating.

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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    Drez wrote: »
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    Wait is that accurate? Can you tell where a hashtag started?

    Absolutely. Instagram and Twitter both track location data by default, unless you opt out (if you even can), is my understanding. And even if GPS data isn't available, they can always use IP data.

    Alright I see that guy's chart. How do I get my own chart/where did he get that? This sounds fascinating.

    Not sure, but I remember seeing other instances where social media services provided positional trending analyses.

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    southwicksouthwick Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    But millenial covers such a range of people, like this is the media who doesn't understand their own bullshit group trying to tell that group that "no you didn't get what we specifically said you should get."

    Any time I see the media interview a "millennial" i get worried for our future, then remember I was probably somewhat like that once.

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    DelphinidaesDelphinidaes FFXIV: Delphi Kisaragi Registered User regular
    edited September 2016
    Hirocon wrote: »
    The next debate will apparently include questions voted on by internet respondents. I'm terrified that the same reddit hordes upvoting Trump in post-debate polls will mass-upvote debate questions like "As president, what specific steps will you take to lower taxes, reduce regulations, protect second amendment rights and criminalize gay marriage?"

    Please vote for quality debate questions here:

    https://presidentialopenquestions.com/

    To be fair the questions will be 'suggested' by vote, but the final decision will be with the debate organizers to choose questions that are at least, hopefully, relevant. (sorry Harambe)

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    DrascinDrascin Registered User regular
    PantsB wrote: »

    Dammit, Vladimir, maybe a little subtlety?

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    Desktop HippieDesktop Hippie Registered User regular
    southwick wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    But millenial covers such a range of people, like this is the media who doesn't understand their own bullshit group trying to tell that group that "no you didn't get what we specifically said you should get."

    Any time I see the media interview a "millennial" i get worried for our future, then remember I was probably somewhat like that once.

    I studied English Literature in University College Dublin, and I specialised in Old and Middle English. I remember slogging my way through a bunch of photocopies of 12th century manuscripts when I came across this quote from a despairing monk.

    "The world is coming to an end! Children no longer obey their parents!"

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    mysticjuicermysticjuicer [he/him] I'm a muscle wizard and I cast P U N C HRegistered User regular
    Enc wrote: »
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    I think something that needs to be understood is that when some of us see Trump saying and doing stupid, rude, uncouth things, there is a large part of the electorate that sees that as "straight talk". There is a deep love of being uneducated and "simple" among the demographics that Trump polls well with. Being educated, intelligent and possessing an ability to see and understand nuanced problems is seen as "elitist", or "liberal elitism".

    To wit, I had a Trump supporter on my FB the other day bragging about not going to college and working the oil fields because "going to college and sitting at a desk is for pussies" (exact words). This is the electorate we're trying to stop from running the country in to the ground.

    This election is a battle against the Dunning-Kruger effect.

    William Gibson's twitter feed is pretty great in general, but this one observation really knocks it out of the park, in my opinion.

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    Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    edited September 2016
    southwick wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    But millenial covers such a range of people, like this is the media who doesn't understand their own bullshit group trying to tell that group that "no you didn't get what we specifically said you should get."

    Any time I see the media interview a "millennial" i get worried for our future, then remember I was probably somewhat like that once.

    I'm sometimes grateful that when I was a teenager, the Internet was still universities and defense contractors. I literally saw the start of the Web while at college. (Anyone else remember when it was all black text, blue links, and the occasional image floating in a sea of grey?)

    Commander Zoom on
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    SleepSleep Registered User regular
    southwick wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    But millenial covers such a range of people, like this is the media who doesn't understand their own bullshit group trying to tell that group that "no you didn't get what we specifically said you should get."

    Any time I see the media interview a "millennial" i get worried for our future, then remember I was probably somewhat like that once.

    I studied English Literature in University College Dublin, and I specialised in Old and Middle English. I remember slogging my way through a bunch of photocopies of 12th century manuscripts when I came across this quote from a despairing monk.

    "The world is coming to an end! Children no longer obey their parents!"

    The very young do not always do what they are told

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    autono-wally, erotibot300autono-wally, erotibot300 love machine Registered User regular
    southwick wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    But millenial covers such a range of people, like this is the media who doesn't understand their own bullshit group trying to tell that group that "no you didn't get what we specifically said you should get."

    Any time I see the media interview a "millennial" i get worried for our future, then remember I was probably somewhat like that once.

    I'm sometimes grateful that when I was a teenager, the Internet was still universities and defense contractors. I literally saw the start of the Web while at college. (Anyone else remember when it was all black text, blue links, and the occasional image floating in a sea of grey?)

    I remember recommending that new site "google" over altavista or others... and slooooooowwwwwwwwww loading everything

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    Cog wrote: »
    I really wish the next debate wasn't town hall. I think he'll do better addressing the people than he does being directly confronted and challenged by Clinton, and that will feed an unfortunate narrative of him rebounding and coming back strong and all that shit.

    Hopefully Clinton takes a lot of shots at him and his policies and gets him feeling defensive.

    oh man I disagree. check out the Commander in Chief forum where HRC shows human empathy and thanks vets asking questions, and Trump starts his answer by "correcting" a female vet with wrong facts, totally mansplaining at her

    it's gon b good

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    OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    So It Goes wrote: »
    Cog wrote: »
    I really wish the next debate wasn't town hall. I think he'll do better addressing the people than he does being directly confronted and challenged by Clinton, and that will feed an unfortunate narrative of him rebounding and coming back strong and all that shit.

    Hopefully Clinton takes a lot of shots at him and his policies and gets him feeling defensive.

    oh man I disagree. check out the Commander in Chief forum where HRC shows human empathy and thanks vets asking questions, and Trump starts his answer by "correcting" a female vet with wrong facts, totally mansplaining at her

    it's gon b good

    It depends on if they let him coke back up in the middle.

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    SchrodingerSchrodinger Registered User regular
    Has anyone drawn a political cartoon yet with Hillary as a bull fighter waving a red cape and trump as the bull?

    Because if not, someone needs to draw that.

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    So It Goes wrote: »
    Cog wrote: »
    I really wish the next debate wasn't town hall. I think he'll do better addressing the people than he does being directly confronted and challenged by Clinton, and that will feed an unfortunate narrative of him rebounding and coming back strong and all that shit.

    Hopefully Clinton takes a lot of shots at him and his policies and gets him feeling defensive.

    oh man I disagree. check out the Commander in Chief forum where HRC shows human empathy and thanks vets asking questions, and Trump starts his answer by "correcting" a female vet with wrong facts, totally mansplaining at her

    it's gon b good

    It depends on if they let him coke back up in the middle.

    I really don't think he does drugs. I think he never actually practices public speaking or debating and he was constantly having to gasp in breaths because he would ramble without stopping for like 60 seconds.

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    Desktop HippieDesktop Hippie Registered User regular
    southwick wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    But millenial covers such a range of people, like this is the media who doesn't understand their own bullshit group trying to tell that group that "no you didn't get what we specifically said you should get."

    Any time I see the media interview a "millennial" i get worried for our future, then remember I was probably somewhat like that once.

    I'm sometimes grateful that when I was a teenager, the Internet was still universities and defense contractors. I literally saw the start of the Web while at college. (Anyone else remember when it was all black text, blue links, and the occasional image floating in a sea of grey?)

    I remember recommending that new site "google" over altavista or others... and slooooooowwwwwwwwww loading everything

    I didn't have the internet until after I graduated, but there was an intranet in university that featured copious amounts of fanfiction from the Science Fiction and Fantasy Society. I remember reading one sprawling epic that started with a girl in the Highlander: The Series universe who discovered she was immortal, had a crossover adventure in the Flash (the 90s TV show) universe and finished up on Deep Space 9 hundreds of years later, finally defeating her nemesis. I still think of it fondly.

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    shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    southwick wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    But millenial covers such a range of people, like this is the media who doesn't understand their own bullshit group trying to tell that group that "no you didn't get what we specifically said you should get."

    Any time I see the media interview a "millennial" i get worried for our future, then remember I was probably somewhat like that once.

    I'm sometimes grateful that when I was a teenager, the Internet was still universities and defense contractors. I literally saw the start of the Web while at college. (Anyone else remember when it was all black text, blue links, and the occasional image floating in a sea of grey?)

    I remember recommending that new site "google" over altavista or others... and slooooooowwwwwwwwww loading everything

    I remember being recommended Altavista as the best search engine over ... I think it was yahoo.

    Also, I remember AOL floppies. So many AOL floppies.

    Fucking punk kids these days don't even seem to remember the GWB years.

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