ShivahnUnaware of her barrel shifter privilegeWestern coastal temptressRegistered User, Moderatormod
Hmm I want to carbonate the kombucha, but not create bombs.
I realized growlers exist.
Is there a way to put a safety valve on one? Or, how would I make such a safety valve? So that I can do fermentation in one without worrying 'bout explosions.
Hm, we could pass legislation banning any neighborhood or municipality from penalizing residents for failing to water their lawns or for not having grass at all, while offering modest tax incentives for replacing grass with climate-appropriate local plants.
I'd be for having natural plants in your yard.
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ChanusHarbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered Userregular
i plan to turn as much of my yard as i can into a garden
I believe factory cattle farming is by far the worst agricultural water consumption culprit?
as well as being a horrendous blight on the world and an apocalyptic nightmare of tortured flesh that would have us censured by a galactic committee if such a thing existed
nah livestock doesn't cost that much water. there are a lot of cows and pigs and chickens, but they don't drink that much and they don't take 10 minute long showers.
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ChanusHarbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered Userregular
and then i'm just gonna water the shit out of that garden
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ShivahnUnaware of her barrel shifter privilegeWestern coastal temptressRegistered User, Moderatormod
I always hate the excuse "The kids love the lawn, so that's why we're keeping it." Have the kids pull out all of the weeds in the lawn. Force them to do it. See how much they love the lawn then.
To be fair, this was one of my chores. I got an allowance for doing it, but between that and cleaning up our dog's poop and mowing the lawn, I was completely disenchanted with the idea of having a lawn by the time I reached my teen years.
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Sir Landsharkresting shark faceRegistered Userregular
Domestic water usage for drinking and bathing is a tiny fraction of all water usage
Yeah it's like how people are shaming celebrities over keeping a green lawn which is a waste, but not nearly the same waste as almond farming.
though i guess on the one hand at least almonds are food
a green lawn is a completely unnecessary use of water with absolutely no practical benefit to anyone
im not seeing much of a difference between watering your lawn and taking off the flow limiter in your shower tbh
because your lawn uses waaaaaay more water.
meh, quick googling says averages are ~50 gallons/day for lawn/garden watering and ~20/use for showering. so, say taking off the flow limiter adds 10/use.
Please consider the environment before printing this post.
I heard another story on NPR last night about how many bees are trucked into California to help pollinate almond trees. Now, farmers always use outside bees, but we're talking about shipping bees from Louisiana to California. Its like nothing about that crop is economical.
This is so strange to me! Almonds are not super economical--but cattle farming is horrifically destructive. On a scale that dwarfs almonds. If we want to change something about ag waste it's cattle farming by a hundred miles.
Captain Ultralow resolution pictures of birdsRegistered Userregular
my house was built before WWII and basically takes up 80% of the lot. I have like, next to no lawn, and most of it is taken up by a beautiful old tree. It is terrific. And my house was cheaper because it had barely has a lawn. A++ would recommend
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amateurhourOne day I'll be professionalhourThe woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered Userregular
I always hate the excuse "The kids love the lawn, so that's why we're keeping it." Have the kids pull out all of the weeds in the lawn. Force them to do it. See how much they love the lawn then.
To be fair, this was one of my chores. I got an allowance for doing it, but between that and cleaning up our dog's poop and mowing the lawn, I was completely disenchanted with the idea of having a lawn by the time I reached my teen years.
The greatest thing about being a homeowner with a fenced in back yard is that I haven't picked up dog shit in four years.
I'm not super familiar with what's actually going on with the dwindling water supply grape refers to
but I thought shower/tap water was on an essentially closed loop and using an extra gallon to shower doesn't really waste anything other than the resources to clean it and send it back through the system
Here in Cincinnati, we draw water from the Ohio river and use a combined sewer overflow system.
Turn on a tap, or flush a toilet, and that waste water hits the sewer. In the event of heavy precipitation, storm drains attached to the same system cause overflows that dump into the Ohio river.
If I had my druthers, I'd build an appropriately-scaled marsh system for pre-treating that water before it hit the river. Other effective solutions are implementing permeable landscapes such that water doesn't just hit pavement and immediately make a bee-line for the nearest storm drain.
which is also for the most part avoiding the water supply entirely
or, at least, the water supply we talk about when we say dwindling
a river is really nothing but the water that aquifers can't take.
EDIT: But yeah directing water straight into a stormdrain then means you've made a shortcut for the rainfall to go straight into the river
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JuliusCaptain of Serenityon my shipRegistered Userregular
I believe factory cattle farming is by far the worst agricultural water consumption culprit?
as well as being a horrendous blight on the world and an apocalyptic nightmare of tortured flesh that would have us censured by a galactic committee if such a thing existed
nah livestock doesn't cost that much water. there are a lot of cows and pigs and chickens, but they don't drink that much and they don't take 10 minute long showers.
though I guess the food for animals costs water, but I don't believe they use particularly inefficient crops.
I always hate the excuse "The kids love the lawn, so that's why we're keeping it." Have the kids pull out all of the weeds in the lawn. Force them to do it. See how much they love the lawn then.
To be fair, this was one of my chores. I got an allowance for doing it, but between that and cleaning up our dog's poop and mowing the lawn, I was completely disenchanted with the idea of having a lawn by the time I reached my teen years.
The greatest thing about being a homeowner with a fenced in back yard is that I haven't picked up dog shit in four years.
You goddamn redneck
You go in the cage, cage goes in the water, you go in the water. Shark's in the water, our shark.
I always hate the excuse "The kids love the lawn, so that's why we're keeping it." Have the kids pull out all of the weeds in the lawn. Force them to do it. See how much they love the lawn then.
To be fair, this was one of my chores. I got an allowance for doing it, but between that and cleaning up our dog's poop and mowing the lawn, I was completely disenchanted with the idea of having a lawn by the time I reached my teen years.
The greatest thing about being a homeowner with a fenced in back yard is that I haven't picked up dog shit in four years.
This coming from a man who spends time on weekends pooping outdoors.
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Sir Landsharkresting shark faceRegistered Userregular
Hmm I want to carbonate the kombucha, but not create bombs.
I realized growlers exist.
Is there a way to put a safety valve on one? Or, how would I make such a safety valve? So that I can do fermentation in one without worrying 'bout explosions.
I have no idea what this post is about but I want to report it to homeland security
I always hate the excuse "The kids love the lawn, so that's why we're keeping it." Have the kids pull out all of the weeds in the lawn. Force them to do it. See how much they love the lawn then.
To be fair, this was one of my chores. I got an allowance for doing it, but between that and cleaning up our dog's poop and mowing the lawn, I was completely disenchanted with the idea of having a lawn by the time I reached my teen years.
The greatest thing about being a homeowner with a fenced in back yard is that I haven't picked up dog shit in four years.
I grew up on a corner lot.
Dog owners are openly mostly terribly inconsiderate dicks in my experience. And don't even seem to realise it.
I believe factory cattle farming is by far the worst agricultural water consumption culprit?
as well as being a horrendous blight on the world and an apocalyptic nightmare of tortured flesh that would have us censured by a galactic committee if such a thing existed
nah livestock doesn't cost that much water. there are a lot of cows and pigs and chickens, but they don't drink that much and they don't take 10 minute long showers.
Can't tell if serious.
Those animals all require feed. Where does that feed come from? Mostly corn.
I believe factory cattle farming is by far the worst agricultural water consumption culprit?
as well as being a horrendous blight on the world and an apocalyptic nightmare of tortured flesh that would have us censured by a galactic committee if such a thing existed
nah livestock doesn't cost that much water. there are a lot of cows and pigs and chickens, but they don't drink that much and they don't take 10 minute long showers.
I don't think it's about the water they directly consume or use. They eat massive swathes of feed that require astronomical amounts of water to grow. They produce tons and tons of waste that demand heavy water usage to deal with, and blight the land (and water) nearby.
Hmm I want to carbonate the kombucha, but not create bombs.
I realized growlers exist.
Is there a way to put a safety valve on one? Or, how would I make such a safety valve? So that I can do fermentation in one without worrying 'bout explosions.
I have no idea what this post is about but I want to report it to homeland security
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amateurhourOne day I'll be professionalhourThe woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered Userregular
I've actually gotta get out there with a shovel and pick it up next weekend though because I'mma start getting the land ready for the 10x10 garden enclosure.
So there's gonna be a LOT of shit flung over that fence and into the little ravine behind my house.
I believe factory cattle farming is by far the worst agricultural water consumption culprit?
as well as being a horrendous blight on the world and an apocalyptic nightmare of tortured flesh that would have us censured by a galactic committee if such a thing existed
nah livestock doesn't cost that much water. there are a lot of cows and pigs and chickens, but they don't drink that much and they don't take 10 minute long showers.
though I guess the food for animals costs water, but I don't believe they use particularly inefficient crops.
edit: (oh shit yeah they use afalfa)
Regardless about the efficiency of the crop, you've got a whole trophic level thing going on, so it's going to end up being pretty efficient because pyramid scheme.
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TL DRNot at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered Userregular
Hmm I want to carbonate the kombucha, but not create bombs.
I realized growlers exist.
Is there a way to put a safety valve on one? Or, how would I make such a safety valve? So that I can do fermentation in one without worrying 'bout explosions.
I just use swing-top glass bottles and put the lot in a leak-proof box. If you were worried, you could put a balloon over the opening of one of them to judge the relative amount of pressure being generated?
I always hate the excuse "The kids love the lawn, so that's why we're keeping it." Have the kids pull out all of the weeds in the lawn. Force them to do it. See how much they love the lawn then.
To be fair, this was one of my chores. I got an allowance for doing it, but between that and cleaning up our dog's poop and mowing the lawn, I was completely disenchanted with the idea of having a lawn by the time I reached my teen years.
Yeah man, fuck lawn care. I'm planning to get rid of as much of my front lawn as I can get away with.
But mostly the issue with lawn watering is people doing it when local water supplies are low and people growing the wrong kind of grass for their climate.
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Sir Landsharkresting shark faceRegistered Userregular
I heard another story on NPR last night about how many bees are trucked into California to help pollinate almond trees. Now, farmers always use outside bees, but we're talking about shipping bees from Louisiana to California. Its like nothing about that crop is economical.
This is so strange to me! Almonds are not super economical--but cattle farming is horrifically destructive. On a scale that dwarfs almonds. If we want to change something about ag waste it's cattle farming by a hundred miles.
almonds are easy to give up tho
Please consider the environment before printing this post.
Hmm I want to carbonate the kombucha, but not create bombs.
I realized growlers exist.
Is there a way to put a safety valve on one? Or, how would I make such a safety valve? So that I can do fermentation in one without worrying 'bout explosions.
I have no idea what this post is about but I want to report it to homeland security
It is only slightly more disjointed than my normal thoughts. Also the explosions would all be in my fridge.
I always hate the excuse "The kids love the lawn, so that's why we're keeping it." Have the kids pull out all of the weeds in the lawn. Force them to do it. See how much they love the lawn then.
To be fair, this was one of my chores. I got an allowance for doing it, but between that and cleaning up our dog's poop and mowing the lawn, I was completely disenchanted with the idea of having a lawn by the time I reached my teen years.
The greatest thing about being a homeowner with a fenced in back yard is that I haven't picked up dog shit in four years.
I grew up on a corner lot.
Dog owners are openly mostly terribly inconsiderate dicks in my experience. And don't even seem to realise it.
See outside of my yard I always picked up dog shit. On walks, dog park, etc.
At my house though, eff that.
What gets me is our street dead ends about a half mile down into some lower income houses and the fuckers that live there will walk up and down the street at night and just straight up toss trash in yards.
Like every week at least one day I'll walk outside and there will be a beer can or burger wrapper or cigarette pack or something.
One day I'mma get up on the roof and fucking paintball those assholes.
are YOU on the beer list?
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JuliusCaptain of Serenityon my shipRegistered Userregular
I believe factory cattle farming is by far the worst agricultural water consumption culprit?
as well as being a horrendous blight on the world and an apocalyptic nightmare of tortured flesh that would have us censured by a galactic committee if such a thing existed
nah livestock doesn't cost that much water. there are a lot of cows and pigs and chickens, but they don't drink that much and they don't take 10 minute long showers.
Can't tell if serious.
Those animals all require feed. Where does that feed come from? Mostly corn.
yeah I wasn't thinking.
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Sir Landsharkresting shark faceRegistered Userregular
I heard another story on NPR last night about how many bees are trucked into California to help pollinate almond trees. Now, farmers always use outside bees, but we're talking about shipping bees from Louisiana to California. Its like nothing about that crop is economical.
This is so strange to me! Almonds are not super economical--but cattle farming is horrifically destructive. On a scale that dwarfs almonds. If we want to change something about ag waste it's cattle farming by a hundred miles.
almonds are easy to give up tho
availability of fresh water is also a geographic thing
many almonds are grown in among the worst place to grow them
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I realized growlers exist.
Is there a way to put a safety valve on one? Or, how would I make such a safety valve? So that I can do fermentation in one without worrying 'bout explosions.
I'd be for having natural plants in your yard.
Out of context, this sounds utterly filthy.
nah livestock doesn't cost that much water. there are a lot of cows and pigs and chickens, but they don't drink that much and they don't take 10 minute long showers.
Everything I say is utterly filthy.
To be fair, this was one of my chores. I got an allowance for doing it, but between that and cleaning up our dog's poop and mowing the lawn, I was completely disenchanted with the idea of having a lawn by the time I reached my teen years.
meh, quick googling says averages are ~50 gallons/day for lawn/garden watering and ~20/use for showering. so, say taking off the flow limiter adds 10/use.
This is so strange to me! Almonds are not super economical--but cattle farming is horrifically destructive. On a scale that dwarfs almonds. If we want to change something about ag waste it's cattle farming by a hundred miles.
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The greatest thing about being a homeowner with a fenced in back yard is that I haven't picked up dog shit in four years.
Never!
which is also for the most part avoiding the water supply entirely
or, at least, the water supply we talk about when we say dwindling
a river is really nothing but the water that aquifers can't take.
EDIT: But yeah directing water straight into a stormdrain then means you've made a shortcut for the rainfall to go straight into the river
though I guess the food for animals costs water, but I don't believe they use particularly inefficient crops.
edit: (oh shit yeah they use afalfa)
You goddamn redneck
ours is like $40/mo I think? we don't water our lawn, but house of 5 so
I have no idea what this post is about but I want to report it to homeland security
I grew up on a corner lot.
Dog owners are openly mostly terribly inconsiderate dicks in my experience. And don't even seem to realise it.
Can't tell if serious.
Those animals all require feed. Where does that feed come from? Mostly corn.
I don't think it's about the water they directly consume or use. They eat massive swathes of feed that require astronomical amounts of water to grow. They produce tons and tons of waste that demand heavy water usage to deal with, and blight the land (and water) nearby.
So there's gonna be a LOT of shit flung over that fence and into the little ravine behind my house.
Yet somehow, the asshole up the road from us had a verdant green lawn. Very suspicious.
Regardless about the efficiency of the crop, you've got a whole trophic level thing going on, so it's going to end up being pretty efficient because pyramid scheme.
I just use swing-top glass bottles and put the lot in a leak-proof box. If you were worried, you could put a balloon over the opening of one of them to judge the relative amount of pressure being generated?
Yeah man, fuck lawn care. I'm planning to get rid of as much of my front lawn as I can get away with.
But mostly the issue with lawn watering is people doing it when local water supplies are low and people growing the wrong kind of grass for their climate.
almonds are easy to give up tho
It is only slightly more disjointed than my normal thoughts. Also the explosions would all be in my fridge.
See outside of my yard I always picked up dog shit. On walks, dog park, etc.
At my house though, eff that.
What gets me is our street dead ends about a half mile down into some lower income houses and the fuckers that live there will walk up and down the street at night and just straight up toss trash in yards.
Like every week at least one day I'll walk outside and there will be a beer can or burger wrapper or cigarette pack or something.
One day I'mma get up on the roof and fucking paintball those assholes.
yeah I wasn't thinking.
we will never have a water restriction where I live now, I don't think
but growing up there was one for a bit in Maryland
and my neighbor was out there washing his car with bottled water he bought at the store
which was a mix of hilarious and wtf
availability of fresh water is also a geographic thing
many almonds are grown in among the worst place to grow them