I've actually gotta get out there with a shovel and pick it up next weekend though because I'mma start getting the land ready for the 10x10 garden enclosure.
So there's gonna be a LOT of shit flung over that fence and into the little ravine behind my house.
Ok I take that redneck bit back at least you're doing something about it.
I had a bud of mine with a house he was in for 8 years and I don't think he ever picked up his dog's shit once, unless it was on the patio.
Walking through the lawn to get the dog's ball was like playing Russian roulette with your feet
You go in the cage, cage goes in the water, you go in the water. Shark's in the water, our shark.
I heard another story on NPR last night about how many bees are trucked into California to help pollinate almond trees. Now, farmers always use outside bees, but we're talking about shipping bees from Louisiana to California. Its like nothing about that crop is economical.
This is so strange to me! Almonds are not super economical--but cattle farming is horrifically destructive. On a scale that dwarfs almonds. If we want to change something about ag waste it's cattle farming by a hundred miles.
if you want to change something going after a specific type is entirely the wrong way to go about it because it's ineffective and just has really weird solutions
economical incentives - like the biggest part of the reasons acid rain is a problem that's dwindled to nearly nothing compared to what it was in the US - work really well
what you want to change, is water use. So penalize water use. And everything adjusts itself.
Hmm I want to carbonate the kombucha, but not create bombs.
I realized growlers exist.
Is there a way to put a safety valve on one? Or, how would I make such a safety valve? So that I can do fermentation in one without worrying 'bout explosions.
I have no idea what this post is about but I want to report it to homeland security
It is only slightly more disjointed than my normal thoughts. Also the explosions would all be in my fridge.
I heard another story on NPR last night about how many bees are trucked into California to help pollinate almond trees. Now, farmers always use outside bees, but we're talking about shipping bees from Louisiana to California. Its like nothing about that crop is economical.
This is so strange to me! Almonds are not super economical--but cattle farming is horrifically destructive. On a scale that dwarfs almonds. If we want to change something about ag waste it's cattle farming by a hundred miles.
almonds are easy to give up tho
You don't even need to give up beef or dairy, just reform the practices and probably reduce consumption! But that will not happen. Cattle is a really powerful industry.
Industrial animal farming is an environmental nightmare in general
I heard another story on NPR last night about how many bees are trucked into California to help pollinate almond trees. Now, farmers always use outside bees, but we're talking about shipping bees from Louisiana to California. Its like nothing about that crop is economical.
This is so strange to me! Almonds are not super economical--but cattle farming is horrifically destructive. On a scale that dwarfs almonds. If we want to change something about ag waste it's cattle farming by a hundred miles.
if you want to change something going after a specific type is entirely the wrong way to go about it because it's ineffective and just has really weird solutions
economical incentives - like the biggest part of the reasons acid rain is a problem that's dwindled to nearly nothing compared to what it was in the US - work really well
what you want to change, is water use. So penalize water use. And everything adjusts itself.
yep, hell just reorienting the existing ag subsidies towards this end would make a huge difference
With lawns though, funniest shit I've seen is when me and the wife lived in a basement apartment in a subdivision where the west half of the thing was still being built.
Fucking middle of the summer in the middle of a stupidly hot dry spell and a water restriction warning, they are laying out new sod. I guess that's what the contract paid them to do.
You could literally walk down the streets where they were working and measure their progress. The stuff they did this morning was already wilting. The stuff they did yesterday was mostly dead. The stuff they did more then a day ago was completely dead.
And every now and then you'd find the one person who had moved in early and was also secretly watering their lawn at night.
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I'm not super familiar with what's actually going on with the dwindling water supply grape refers to
but I thought shower/tap water was on an essentially closed loop and using an extra gallon to shower doesn't really waste anything other than the resources to clean it and send it back through the system
Here in Cincinnati, we draw water from the Ohio river and use a combined sewer overflow system.
Turn on a tap, or flush a toilet, and that waste water hits the sewer. In the event of heavy precipitation, storm drains attached to the same system cause overflows that dump into the Ohio river.
If I had my druthers, I'd build an appropriately-scaled marsh system for pre-treating that water before it hit the river. Other effective solutions are implementing permeable landscapes such that water doesn't just hit pavement and immediately make a bee-line for the nearest storm drain.
which is also for the most part avoiding the water supply entirely
or, at least, the water supply we talk about when we say dwindling
a river is really nothing but the water that aquifers can't take.
EDIT: But yeah directing water straight into a stormdrain then means you've made a shortcut for the rainfall to go straight into the river
Yes, though it speaks to the fact that we don't just need water, but rather we need water than can cheaply and safely be rendered drinkable.
Not to mention the impact of pollution on down-river ecosystems. I know I love being down-river from Pittsburgh, PA and Huntington, WV.
I heard another story on NPR last night about how many bees are trucked into California to help pollinate almond trees. Now, farmers always use outside bees, but we're talking about shipping bees from Louisiana to California. Its like nothing about that crop is economical.
This is so strange to me! Almonds are not super economical--but cattle farming is horrifically destructive. On a scale that dwarfs almonds. If we want to change something about ag waste it's cattle farming by a hundred miles.
almonds are easy to give up tho
You don't even need to give up beef or dairy, just reform the practices and probably reduce consumption! But that will not happen. Cattle is a really powerful industry.
Industrial animal farming is an environmental nightmare in general
well yeah, reduce consumption is what I meant with my tongue in cheek response
there's not much motivation for that
water usage is p damn cheap tho. if it's becoming a serious problem in the us the gov should probably start putting more of the external costs on the users like abd said.
Please consider the environment before printing this post.
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I've just been wasting all the free condos I got from my wedding. Silly me.
This reminds me of something I saw on Reddit two or three days ago talking about the same thing. How this girl paid off $80,000+ in debt (she refinanced her boyfriends in her name too). The secret? Get a $200,000 a year job.
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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I live right beside one of the largest bodies of fresh water in the world.
I believe factory cattle farming is by far the worst agricultural water consumption culprit?
as well as being a horrendous blight on the world and an apocalyptic nightmare of tortured flesh that would have us censured by a galactic committee if such a thing existed
nah livestock doesn't cost that much water. there are a lot of cows and pigs and chickens, but they don't drink that much and they don't take 10 minute long showers.
Can't tell if serious.
Those animals all require feed. Where does that feed come from? Mostly corn.
That's not how farming works. Farming is mostly done via microtransactions or logging in at the right time and clicking for a few hours.
Haha these kids today that don't know how farming works. Y'all should be ashamed.
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whats goin on in chat oh in depth talks about water usage and agriculture
cool cool i'm just gonna put my head down on my desk until we hit page 99
I mean it doesn't matter that cattle farming is an atrocity because people don't care where their stuff comes from even when it destroys human lives, let alone animals or the environment
I always hate the excuse "The kids love the lawn, so that's why we're keeping it." Have the kids pull out all of the weeds in the lawn. Force them to do it. See how much they love the lawn then.
To be fair, this was one of my chores. I got an allowance for doing it, but between that and cleaning up our dog's poop and mowing the lawn, I was completely disenchanted with the idea of having a lawn by the time I reached my teen years.
The greatest thing about being a homeowner with a fenced in back yard is that I haven't picked up dog shit in four years.
I grew up on a corner lot.
Dog owners are openly mostly terribly inconsiderate dicks in my experience. And don't even seem to realise it.
See outside of my yard I always picked up dog shit. On walks, dog park, etc.
At my house though, eff that.
What gets me is our street dead ends about a half mile down into some lower income houses and the fuckers that live there will walk up and down the street at night and just straight up toss trash in yards.
Like every week at least one day I'll walk outside and there will be a beer can or burger wrapper or cigarette pack or something.
One day I'mma get up on the roof and fucking paintball those assholes.
The problem is generally "I let my dog run around and take a shit on your lawn, but I totally picked it up!" has never been a terribly good excuse for bad behaviour, no matter how often it's used. "Hey this playground for the local kids to play in is just a perfectly fine place for my dog to take a shit, right?" is little better.
And that's like the cream of the crop. Then you get to the people who let their dogs run around in your gardens, who don't pick up or who pick up and then chuck the bag in your garden.
the gross water usage of livestock is huge but the net usage is way more complicated than that and depends on a ton of factors
Please explain
Every part of the United States has different levels of water and water replenishment and practices involving livestock, from what they are given to eat to how they are kept to how their waste is disposed of can vary a great deal
Often the cheapest beef is the worst environmentally obviously
My wife is actively hostile to lawns, as a concept. She considers them wasteful, anti-environment, and only tolerates them at our current house because we're not responsible for them, the building's owner is.
If we were ever to buy our own house (an idea she's against anyway, she'd rather buy a condo), there's a bunch of things that would normally be selling points that for her would be negatives, and a lawn would be one of them.
I've just been wasting all the free condos I got from my wedding. Silly me.
This reminds me of something I saw on Reddit two or three days ago talking about the same thing. How this girl paid off $80,000+ in debt (she refinanced her boyfriends in her name too). The secret? Get a $200,000 a year job.
I love this
LIFEHACK
HOW TO: PAY OFF DEBT
1. EARN MONEY
2. USE THAT MONEY TO PAY OFF THE DEBT
THIS WILL BE FASTER IF YOU EARN MORE MONEY IN POINT 1
I believe factory cattle farming is by far the worst agricultural water consumption culprit?
as well as being a horrendous blight on the world and an apocalyptic nightmare of tortured flesh that would have us censured by a galactic committee if such a thing existed
nah livestock doesn't cost that much water. there are a lot of cows and pigs and chickens, but they don't drink that much and they don't take 10 minute long showers.
Can't tell if serious.
Those animals all require feed. Where does that feed come from? Mostly corn.
That's not how farming works. Farming is mostly done via microtransactions or logging in at the right time and clicking for a few hours.
Haha these kids today that don't know how farming works. Y'all should be ashamed.
life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
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Hmm I want to carbonate the kombucha, but not create bombs.
I realized growlers exist.
Is there a way to put a safety valve on one? Or, how would I make such a safety valve? So that I can do fermentation in one without worrying 'bout explosions.
I just use swing-top glass bottles and put the lot in a leak-proof box. If you were worried, you could put a balloon over the opening of one of them to judge the relative amount of pressure being generated?
I'm irrationally afraid of explosions, and love to overengineer things. I am thinking of putting a pressure relief valve into a cap (I am looking at valves now..).
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Finally started to find my feet in Ultimate or true vault hunter, whatever the highest difficulty is in BL2. Basically I had to abandon the idea of mitigating damage and go for the highest dps I could. So I still get killed, but not nearly as often. Plus I got that ridiculous mirv grenade from boom boom so I can really drop some fire in an area.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
whats goin on in chat oh in depth talks about water usage and agriculture
cool cool i'm just gonna put my head down on my desk until we hit page 99
That's great! Very little water usage in this activity
How do you not use water in this scenario?
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EM is right and our omnivorous nature is the most horrible thing ever, also tilder I refuse to use balloons specifically because I don't want balloon juice dripping into my junk.
just FYI the whole "trucking bees across the country to pollinate almonds" is not only one of the weirdest outcomes of humans growing non-native crops, it is extremely taxing on the environment, and is also a large contributing factor in colony collapse disorder lol
"Wouldn't it be great to replace those exotica images with those of middle class American/Australian Caucasians doing stuff, maybe even using stock photos?"
So, I would ask you to select a cover from a cultural anthropology textbook and replace the "exotica" image with an image equivalent of "white women eating salad."
Getting incredibly lucky by chancing on a job where your employer will pay for you to get your degree for while making $200k a year, does help one pay nearly $100,000 in debt!
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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Ok I take that redneck bit back at least you're doing something about it.
I had a bud of mine with a house he was in for 8 years and I don't think he ever picked up his dog's shit once, unless it was on the patio.
Walking through the lawn to get the dog's ball was like playing Russian roulette with your feet
if you want to change something going after a specific type is entirely the wrong way to go about it because it's ineffective and just has really weird solutions
economical incentives - like the biggest part of the reasons acid rain is a problem that's dwindled to nearly nothing compared to what it was in the US - work really well
what you want to change, is water use. So penalize water use. And everything adjusts itself.
oh that's good
those things can survive a nuclear blast
You don't even need to give up beef or dairy, just reform the practices and probably reduce consumption! But that will not happen. Cattle is a really powerful industry.
Industrial animal farming is an environmental nightmare in general
yep, hell just reorienting the existing ag subsidies towards this end would make a huge difference
Fucking middle of the summer in the middle of a stupidly hot dry spell and a water restriction warning, they are laying out new sod. I guess that's what the contract paid them to do.
You could literally walk down the streets where they were working and measure their progress. The stuff they did this morning was already wilting. The stuff they did yesterday was mostly dead. The stuff they did more then a day ago was completely dead.
And every now and then you'd find the one person who had moved in early and was also secretly watering their lawn at night.
Yes, though it speaks to the fact that we don't just need water, but rather we need water than can cheaply and safely be rendered drinkable.
Not to mention the impact of pollution on down-river ecosystems. I know I love being down-river from Pittsburgh, PA and Huntington, WV.
Please explain
well yeah, reduce consumption is what I meant with my tongue in cheek response
there's not much motivation for that
water usage is p damn cheap tho. if it's becoming a serious problem in the us the gov should probably start putting more of the external costs on the users like abd said.
someone needs to start Humans of The Suburbs
This reminds me of something I saw on Reddit two or three days ago talking about the same thing. How this girl paid off $80,000+ in debt (she refinanced her boyfriends in her name too). The secret? Get a $200,000 a year job.
Get on my level.
the music is perfect for what this says about the fundamentally silly nature of man
That's not how farming works. Farming is mostly done via microtransactions or logging in at the right time and clicking for a few hours.
Haha these kids today that don't know how farming works. Y'all should be ashamed.
cool cool i'm just gonna put my head down on my desk until we hit page 99
Arch,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_goGR39m2k
The problem is generally "I let my dog run around and take a shit on your lawn, but I totally picked it up!" has never been a terribly good excuse for bad behaviour, no matter how often it's used. "Hey this playground for the local kids to play in is just a perfectly fine place for my dog to take a shit, right?" is little better.
And that's like the cream of the crop. Then you get to the people who let their dogs run around in your gardens, who don't pick up or who pick up and then chuck the bag in your garden.
Dog owners man...
Every part of the United States has different levels of water and water replenishment and practices involving livestock, from what they are given to eat to how they are kept to how their waste is disposed of can vary a great deal
Often the cheapest beef is the worst environmentally obviously
If we were ever to buy our own house (an idea she's against anyway, she'd rather buy a condo), there's a bunch of things that would normally be selling points that for her would be negatives, and a lawn would be one of them.
No. I'd sink.
That's great! Very little water usage in this activity
like i've just put it off forever because i knew i'd get sucked into it and i feel like i always have a huge backlog of other shows
jesus that shit was depressing
like halfway through it you're just cheering for him to cook some meth like maybe at least he'll feel fulfilled
Arch,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_goGR39m2k
Why would you use gross water on animals? That's abusive. At least use clean water.
alternatively some crazy scientists and engineers vat grow some edible meat on an industrial scale
porp and I made it thru the first couple eps
but it didn't really grab us and idk if we'll ever go back to it
kinda felt like we were just waiting for it to get good
I love this
LIFEHACK
HOW TO: PAY OFF DEBT
1. EARN MONEY
2. USE THAT MONEY TO PAY OFF THE DEBT
THIS WILL BE FASTER IF YOU EARN MORE MONEY IN POINT 1
Ok this is true. Both sides like ignoring the 10th when it serves their interests.
The best episode is when Malcolm is in the middle
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
I'm irrationally afraid of explosions, and love to overengineer things. I am thinking of putting a pressure relief valve into a cap (I am looking at valves now..).
meanwhile porp is secretly on the 2nd season already
Arch,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_goGR39m2k
pleasepaypreacher.net
How do you not use water in this scenario?
Basically, this
We'll just start eating poor people.
pleasepaypreacher.net
Ah here it is
yes
Getting incredibly lucky by chancing on a job where your employer will pay for you to get your degree for while making $200k a year, does help one pay nearly $100,000 in debt!