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Battleships Forever or: Holy shit this game is cool!

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  • CmdPromptCmdPrompt Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Oh it will be the spectacularest.

    It will be up as soon as I learn to work Adobe Premier (as in, as soon as I say "fuck this" and go back to Windows Movie Maker)

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  • CmdPromptCmdPrompt Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    The Entrants

    MetaHybrid
    Shygis Fleet
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    Fleet Makeup
    Spoiler:

    Himura Kenshin
    Battlestations Royale
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    Fleet Makeup
    Spoiler:

    CmdPrompt
    Retribution Fleet
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    Fleet Makeup
    Spoiler:

    Anthelion
    Seneschal’s Glory
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    Fleet Makeup
    Spoiler:

    Kenshin, you were doing some odd things with HP being distributed accross sections, and your points don't add up to 300. I set them to a straight HP amount per section, as thats how I interpreted the rules. If I missed something, please let me know.
    To make this easier on me or whoever runs this, please include a run down of your ships as others did.

    Anthelion, I don't know if you gave Valkun a fleet name or not, so I gave you one. Let me know if you want it changed to something else.

    MetaHybrid, 2 points into acceleration gives your ships .04 acceleration, not .02. I adjusted that for you.

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  • OctobotOctobot Registered User
    edited December 2007
    looks like MetaHybrid had the same idea i did. i just couldnt get my fleet of ships to do anything against 3 100 point vessels (just didnt have the time to work the kinks out) Kudos to those who got the entries in, cant wait to see the results

  • CmdPromptCmdPrompt Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Alright, I have a round done, but the only problem is that the export settings I'm using make it look like ass and a half :|

    If anyone has experience with youtube videos and Adobe Premier, please PM me or something posthaste, otherwise I'm just going to screw around with it a bit.

    This will go much faster once I get one done.

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  • CmdPromptCmdPrompt Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Anthelion
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    Seneschal’s Glory

    v.

    Himura Kenshin
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    Battlestations Royale

    Video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=tspHJl7qz4c

    Results:
    Spoiler:

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  • CmdPromptCmdPrompt Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    CmdPrompt
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    Retribution

    v.

    MetaHybrid
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    Shygis Fleet

    Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LP-cPioPShQ

    Results:
    Spoiler:

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  • CmdPromptCmdPrompt Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Himura Kenshin
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    Battlestations Royale

    v.

    MetaHybrid
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    Shygis Fleet

    Videos:
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xm6v31yrziQ
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=Zx0VVFvdkwA

    Results:
    Spoiler:

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  • CmdPromptCmdPrompt Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Anthelion
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    Seneschal’s Glory

    v.

    CmdPrompt
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    Retribution

    Videos: http://youtube.com/watch?v=rRxEe2Pl_5o

    Results
    Spoiler:

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  • CmdPromptCmdPrompt Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Anthelion
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    Seneschal’s Glory

    v.

    MetaHybrid
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    Shygis Fleet

    Videos: http://youtube.com/watch?v=IxMgc2rcP_M
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=TonUQ3pNrJ0

    Results:
    Spoiler:

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  • CmdPromptCmdPrompt Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    CmdPrompt
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    Retribution

    v.

    Himura Kenshin
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    Battlestations Royale

    Videos: http://youtube.com/watch?v=TN0dQzTWb0g
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=qDTJiUE8EuQ
    The order in which I put the matches is not the order I played them in, Match 1 should be Match 2, and vice versa.

    Results:
    Spoiler:

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  • CmdPromptCmdPrompt Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Final Showdown!

    CmdPrompt & Anthelion

    Retribution’s Glory

    v.

    Himura.Kenshin & MetaHybrid
    Shygis Royale

    Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHv2fhdjr1U

    Final Standings:
    Spoiler:

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  • MetaHybridMetaHybrid Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Haha, stupid tellar torpedoes have horrible aim, but I wanted to use them at least once in a toruney Awesome matches though, the match with CmdPrompt and Himura Kenshin was especially good, I think I saw a gravity beam being used to launch a peice of debris at another ship :^:

    Nice Work on the videos Cmd.

    3DS: 3265-5577-2211 NNID: Metahybrid
  • Himura.KenshinHimura.Kenshin Registered User
    edited December 2007
    Nooo! Well I guess that's what I get for skimping on defenses =P. Also, my beta fleet relied HEAVILY on Teller Torpedoes too... along with Gluon Bolters. I opted out on it.

    Afterthoughts:

    Much more defenses o.O
    Shoulda utilized Tachyon Repeaters much more, given their firepower and low price... One beta fleet had three ships with 30 Tachyon Repeaters each =P
    Shoulda made sure that my ships were absolutely point adherant (ugh, I was sooo tired that night =P)
    Coulda used Gravbeams much more... they seemed to have pretty decent results
    The final match when I was paired with the never hitting Teller Torpedoes was sickk. My favorite part was when two groups of Torpedoes crisscrossed and fired from two directions, annihilating the Attendant Cruiser they were attacking.

    Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici -- By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe. ~ V

    Nothing is stronger than the will to live. ~ Himura
  • CmdPromptCmdPrompt Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    It took me forever to run the matches but I still enjoyed doing it, and would be up for running more, either Fleet, 1v1, or something else. I started working on a program to make managing a campaign much easier, so I can get back to work on that.

    Or has interest waned?

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  • MetaHybridMetaHybrid Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I'm up for battles of any kind, but I think number of participants has dwinled. Maybe a simple 1v1 tourney should be next, so people won't have to worry about making more than one ship design for a Fleet battle, or invest too much time in a campaign game.

    3DS: 3265-5577-2211 NNID: Metahybrid
  • RoundBoyRoundBoy Registered User
    edited December 2007
    I wanted to throw in some entries.. but I thought it would be a spam gun 'x' battle with 90% of a structure forward of the core.

    I have no idea how to force diverse ships when the guns are so closely priced. maybe a nice hard look at damage delt and redo points accordingly ?

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  • CmdPromptCmdPrompt Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I posted over in the BSF official forums, hopefully we can attract more participants through that.

    Another option is to make an entirely new thread- perhaps PA people would check that new one rather than this 43 page beast.

    Edit: I mean a thread devoted to tournaments, leaving this for general discussion of the game. I wouldn't be surprised if people didn't realize tournaments were going on in this thread.

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  • AnthelionAnthelion Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Much as I love these tournaments, I think this will be my last one (for a while, atleast).
    It kind of feels like I'm playing a different game then everyone else. Maybe I'm missing something, or I just can't make ships meant for these tournaments. :|

    The final showdown match was very nice, I wish all battles were a bit more like that. I'll enjoy watching more of these tournaments, and hope that they continue.

  • th15th15 Registered User
    edited December 2007
    New Version Released
    Get it here: http://www.wyrdysm.com/bfdownload.php

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    Battleships Forever is now a finalist in the Independent Games Festival 2008! It's nominated for the Design Innovation award. Check it out here:
    http://www.igf.com/02finalists.html

    What am I going to do about that? Well I'm going to give you more game. There's a really long list of bug fixes in this version. The last was really rather buggy.

    The first thing you'll notice is the way the ships look. I've considerably reworked the way the sections are drawn in game. They now have a gradient applied to them so that the ship is brighter near the core and darker at the edges.

    This is just the first step in much larger changes to come. I'm pretty unsatisfied with a fair portion of the game content at the moment. I'll be re-writing a lot of the career and re-working the missions. Adding the gradient effect to the ships is definitely a step towards making them less cartoony.

    I know some of you have been waiting for ShipMaker 3.0 for a long time, but it's not ready yet, don't worry though, once it's done the features that it'll have will blow you away. Instead, I patched up the old version of ShipMaker (2.x) which is included in this version.

    Full changelog available here: http://www.wyrdysm.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1#1

  • MetaHybridMetaHybrid Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Nice job th15, keep up the awesome work. Can't wait for your New Ship Maker version.

    3DS: 3265-5577-2211 NNID: Metahybrid
  • Himura.KenshinHimura.Kenshin Registered User
    edited December 2007
    Goddamn, I wish my friggin BSF wasn't so plauged with these Direct Music Audio problems. Then I could run another 1v1 touney. *cough*cough*

    Roflmao ^.^ =P

    Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici -- By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe. ~ V

    Nothing is stronger than the will to live. ~ Himura
  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I haven't looked at the new color gradients myself yet, but would it be possible to build a value into the ship model specifying how quickly the gradient changes for that ship?

  • CmdPromptCmdPrompt Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I believe th15 stated that it has to do with the size of the ship, so it will be even regardless.

    Unless there are any objections, I'll probably be starting a 1v1 tourny in a new thread (as to attract more people, hopefully), as well as cross-posting to the official BSF forums (once again, as to attract more people.)

    Here is the rule-set I'm thinking of using.
    The important change is that weapons and modules are no longer costed different based on the ship, only speed, sections, and hp. Please let me know your thoughts on this.
    Spoiler:

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  • RoundBoyRoundBoy Registered User
    edited December 2007
    use original wep arcs too? This could be an interesting set of rules. Frigates / cruisers should still be somewhat in line due to the section costs and 2 per rules.

    hmmm...

    Seperate class fights, or anything goes?

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  • CmdPromptCmdPrompt Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Anything goes.

    Quad blasters have been knocked down to 3 points.

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  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    RoundBoy wrote: »
    use original wep arcs too? This could be an interesting set of rules. Frigates / cruisers should still be somewhat in line due to the section costs and 2 per rules.

    hmmm...

    Seperate class fights, or anything goes?

    Now that weapons are cheaper for frigates, it's probably necessary to prevent abuse of fast movement. If you want to make a craft that circles rapidly at max range and fires railguns, you'll need to either build in turning as well or put in multiple guns.

  • RoundBoyRoundBoy Registered User
    edited December 2007
    jothki wrote: »
    RoundBoy wrote: »
    use original wep arcs too? This could be an interesting set of rules. Frigates / cruisers should still be somewhat in line due to the section costs and 2 per rules.

    hmmm...

    Seperate class fights, or anything goes?

    Now that weapons are cheaper for frigates, it's probably necessary to prevent abuse of fast movement. If you want to make a craft that circles rapidly at max range and fires railguns, you'll need to either build in turning as well or put in multiple guns.

    Frigates would cost 2x as much per section.. so theoretically you have less sections, or only enough for your weapons, no 'shield' sections to block shots.

    A battleship with shields or similar railguns can defend... or if it hits with a frosch gun.. the frigate is done for. Unless you built a highly specialized bship with just close in stuff.

    Its all about balance... but only because this is a single ship competition. If we were playing to fleet doctrine, i would load up each side of a bship with stuff and shield it.

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  • CmdPromptCmdPrompt Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Alright, I opened a new thread for tournament discussion here.

    Move all tournament related stuff there, and keep general BSF stuff here.

    Hopefully a new thread will get us more participants :o

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  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Do we even have any non-tournament discussion going on at this point?

  • Himura.KenshinHimura.Kenshin Registered User
    edited December 2007
    jothki wrote: »
    Do we even have any non-tournament discussion going on at this point?

    Sooo, umm... yeah, I, er, kinda... welll. Let's discuss these! All made by Novercalis.

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    And...

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    And...

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    =D

    Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici -- By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe. ~ V

    Nothing is stronger than the will to live. ~ Himura
  • CmdPromptCmdPrompt Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    THATS NO MOON
    Words fail to accurately describe how awesome this is.

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  • th15th15 Registered User
    edited December 2007
    New Version Release
    Get it here: http://www.wyrdysm.com/bfdownload.php

    Just added a bunch of new stuff so I really need people to test it out. I need to submit another version of the game to the IGF again on 18 Dec so I would really appreciate it if you guys could test this thoroughly so I can deliver a smooth product.

    Two big additions in this version. The Rorschach Resistor and the Eos Battleship. The Rorschach resistor is a module that launches a pod that generates a beam-bending field. It works much the same way as the Teller, but instead of firing a beam it bends beams away from it. It is mounted on the Eos Battleship which is a new stand-off Battleship.

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    There's a few other changes, mainly in the way interception works. Railguns are now interceptable, Rail shots, Demeters, Tachyons, Tellers and Rorschach are all part of a category of bullets that are "hard" to intercept. They only have a 24% chance of being destroyed when hit by point defence.

    I've been messing a little with the sounds so some of the menu sounds are missing at the moment. I also rearranged the fleet selection menu so don't be alarmed. Oh yea, the Rorschach isn't in the shipmaker yet either. I'll get around to that soon.

  • MetaHybridMetaHybrid Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Just a small thing. When changing the stats of a weapon or module in the shipmaker, its size increases a bit.

    3DS: 3265-5577-2211 NNID: Metahybrid
  • The Black HunterThe Black Hunter Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    MetaHybrid wrote: »
    Just a small thing. When changing the stats of a weapon or module in the shipmaker, its size increases a bit.

    It makes them look tougher etc. so you can tell it is a beafier version of the gun.

    The size of projectiles goes up too.

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  • RoundBoyRoundBoy Registered User
    edited December 2007
    That new module, and the addition of 'interceptable' rail gun shots, will really change things up.

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  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    RoundBoy wrote: »
    That new module, and the addition of 'interceptable' rail gun shots, will really change things up.

    It seems like Demeter Pod Launchers just became even more powerful.

  • EdcrabEdcrab Registered User
    edited December 2007
    I've started playing this again and I felt the need to point out that Novercalis's stuff is freakin' awesome.

    For me the game's always been about putting together insane customs. To hell with you people and your "tactics" and "balance"! :P

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  • th15th15 Registered User
    edited December 2007
    New Version Released

    Get it here: http://www.wyrdysm.com/bfdownload.php

    More tweaks and the Shipmaker now includes the Rorschach module so you can build your own bendy beam boats.

    The first mission was heavily reworked so that it serves as a better tutorial. I must ask all of you to try it out to make sure that there's no bugs. I need to submit a version of the game for the IGF final round judging early next week so please try your best to find all the bugs in the game. Any feedback is welcome!

    View full changelog here: http://www.wyrdysm.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1#1

  • th15th15 Registered User
    edited January 2008
    New Version Released
    Get it here: http://www.wyrdysm.com/bfdownload.php

    Help th15,
    Vote for Battleships Forever

    Vote here: http://www.igf.com/audience.php

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    Talhydras's new fleet

    Shipmaker 3.1 is here. I've implemented all of the features that I plan to for now. True customization is now possible with the new shipmaker, assign custom bullet colours, weapon specific values and many other things. It features greatly enhanced features such as group actions which allow you to move/clone/rotate multiple objects at once.

    I've tweaked the hp formula for the game itself so that all ships are generally tougher. This should make combat slightly more drawn out. Another big change is that groups of ship use formation-movement by default instead of vice versa. If you wish each ship in a selection to move at its own maximum speed rather than the speed of the slowest ship in the formation, hold down control while issuing the order.

    Finally, please do vote for Battleships Forever at the IGF website (http://www.igf.com/audience.php)!

  • Kris_xKKris_xK Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I really want to try this out, but the shitty website won't let me download it.

    CURSES.

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