Jim asking Michael if he'd be interested in a potential buyout. "All I came down here to find out was if your wildly successful company has the time to meet with the desperate executives upstairs." And then the smile across Michael's face as he realized that Jim was trying to help him.
I wonder if they still got the cash offered for the buyout. I only ask because it doesn't seem Michael got a whole lot out of this little affair otherwise, what with Charles still being his boss and all.
I hope Jim retains his position as number two. I mean he deserves it, he may waste a lot of time with pranks, but he still gets the business. And I assume he'll get his clients back now. Which brings up another thing, how do the clients feel about being tossed around like this?
"I'll see you titans of industry upstairs!"
"Well, we're not only tight ends, but we're also quarterbacks!"
"Missed that last part.."
"That's a pun."
"Got it!"
it had to all go back to normal, of course, but I like that they made a big deal out of it
if they had just given the three of them their old jobs back and had charles leave without giving it as much space it would have been laaaaaame, but this was well resolved
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edited April 2009
"I don't care if he murdered his entire family, he's like a son to me."
It's pretty crazy the amount of loyalty Michael has
He fights tooth and nail to make Pam saleswoman and get Ryan any job
He really does consider these people his family
It's like a really demented version of Mr. Holland's Opus
As it turns out, they are his masterpiece
I would love to see a crossover between 30 Rock and The Office, personally
Jack all taking it upon himself to mentor Michael
Liz awkwardly hitting on Jim and then finding out he's engaged
Kevin and Lutz hanging out
That's a horrible idea and you should feel bad for having it, and worse for posting it.
Anyway, not quite sure what to think about this arc. Michael has shit the bed yet again, but I feel that arcs like this, while interesting, are the kind of thing that makes a show oversaturated. The Simpsons is the one show that survives stuff like having this middle-class family travel to every continent, meet several world leaders including multiple US presidents, and even go to space a few times. But The Simpsons is this magical thing that seems immortal.
EDIT: My favorite part of this arc is still "shoe bitch."
i really can't comprehend how you've come out of this arc saying "michael has shit the bed yet again." if anyone failed, it was dunder mifflin.
I didn't say that he was the only one. Here's basically what I saw that made me think that:
1) He left his job, burned savings, and then got his job back. So he lost money, and he did so of his own accord.
2) He has now pissed off Wallace, who used to think of him at least as a nice guy. And Miner hates him.
3) He has brought Ryan back into the company, which the writers could take any way they want, but realistically Ryan's not a good guy to have around.
4) He may have rattled some customers by going around badmouthing and undercutting Dunder-Mifflin, which is now his bed to lie in.
On the upside, he promoted Pam and she may be of greater value to the company now, as well as grateful/loyal to him.
Really, what I think he did was bite the hand that feeds him. At best he made himself look like a cutthroat negotiator, but he did it against his own company in a rare, out-of-character moment of business/political brilliance, and therefore looks disloyal.
EDIT: But yes, Dunder-Mifflin fucked up as well. Wallace especially...I think his failure in keeping Michael happy is understandable, in that standard management doesn't work on Michael because he's emotionally retarded. But I also think it's a stupid failure, because for that very same reason, Michael is extremely easy to keep happy. Just be nice to him, remember his birthday, basically treat him like a little kid who you care about. (Non-sexually.)
Considering how Wallace was handling things before, Michael actually helped his situation. Miner wasn't going to let him run his branch the way Michael wanted, and while he didn't exactly have bad ideas, he was fucking with something that was working better than anything else in the entire company. Wallace obviously felt that Michael would just roll over, and he proved him wrong. And Wallace can't afford to get rid of him now, because Michael's just going to do what he did here and cut right into their business again.
And it's not really out of character for Michael to do what he did. He always pulls this sudden competence out of his ass when things get tough. I mean, it doesn't really manifest in any kind of social grace, but having him suddenly show a bit of business acumen isn't terrible.
I mean, to sum everything up, he got rid of his nemesis, stabilized his position in the company and took care of his employees. Plus he got a shot back in at the company that had been fucking with him all year. I don't know how that qualifies as shitting the bed, especially when you look at it from the perspective that he made what seemed to be an astoundingly stupid and reckless decision to quit in the first place. I suppose you could argue that he shit the bed then, but he did a damn good job of changing the sheets.
Also, it amused me how Charles was acting a LOT like Michael used to in this episode.
Saying "Oh okay, take your time" when David said he wanted to say something, the intense kissing up to David Wallace, etc.
And the end was just... oh... just a delight.
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I would love to see a crossover between 30 Rock and The Office, personally
Jack all taking it upon himself to mentor Michael
Liz awkwardly hitting on Jim and then finding out he's engaged
Kevin and Lutz hanging out
That's a horrible idea and you should feel bad for having it, and worse for posting it.
Anyway, not quite sure what to think about this arc. Michael has shit the bed yet again, but I feel that arcs like this, while interesting, are the kind of thing that makes a show oversaturated. The Simpsons is the one show that survives stuff like having this middle-class family travel to every continent, meet several world leaders including multiple US presidents, and even go to space a few times. But The Simpsons is this magical thing that seems immortal.
EDIT: My favorite part of this arc is still "shoe bitch."
shoe bitch was pretty damn great
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edited April 2009
I think the most important thing Michael gained is that Wallace respects him as a businessman now. When Phyllis reminded him about not returning Michael's calls, he was already having second thoughts about how he treated Michael and knew that it was a bigger issue than not letting him have a party. After seeing him in action and basically being taken to school by Michael's negotiation skills, Wallace can't help but respect him. I don't think Wallace even really hates him, because he's smart enough to know that he only has himself and Minor to blame.
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Of course, he didn't even have a choice when Corporate gave Jim that position, so maybe it's not up to him.
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That gave me the best feeling I've ever had.
Well, that and when Jim did a little taunting to Minor during the meeting.
I'm betting at least 2 have something to do with smugglers.
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I love the angry glare Charles shoots Kelly
if they had just given the three of them their old jobs back and had charles leave without giving it as much space it would have been laaaaaame, but this was well resolved
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i slept through it! (stupid migraines!)
but i just watched it on hulu and holy butts that was kickin'
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It's pretty crazy the amount of loyalty Michael has
He fights tooth and nail to make Pam saleswoman and get Ryan any job
He really does consider these people his family
It's like a really demented version of Mr. Holland's Opus
As it turns out, they are his masterpiece
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Jack all taking it upon himself to mentor Michael
Liz awkwardly hitting on Jim and then finding out he's engaged
Kevin and Lutz hanging out
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oh well, i guess i didn't change my av/sig quick enough or something
That's a horrible idea and you should feel bad for having it, and worse for posting it.
Anyway, not quite sure what to think about this arc. Michael has shit the bed yet again, but I feel that arcs like this, while interesting, are the kind of thing that makes a show oversaturated. The Simpsons is the one show that survives stuff like having this middle-class family travel to every continent, meet several world leaders including multiple US presidents, and even go to space a few times. But The Simpsons is this magical thing that seems immortal.
EDIT: My favorite part of this arc is still "shoe bitch."
I didn't say that he was the only one. Here's basically what I saw that made me think that:
1) He left his job, burned savings, and then got his job back. So he lost money, and he did so of his own accord.
2) He has now pissed off Wallace, who used to think of him at least as a nice guy. And Miner hates him.
3) He has brought Ryan back into the company, which the writers could take any way they want, but realistically Ryan's not a good guy to have around.
4) He may have rattled some customers by going around badmouthing and undercutting Dunder-Mifflin, which is now his bed to lie in.
On the upside, he promoted Pam and she may be of greater value to the company now, as well as grateful/loyal to him.
Really, what I think he did was bite the hand that feeds him. At best he made himself look like a cutthroat negotiator, but he did it against his own company in a rare, out-of-character moment of business/political brilliance, and therefore looks disloyal.
EDIT: But yes, Dunder-Mifflin fucked up as well. Wallace especially...I think his failure in keeping Michael happy is understandable, in that standard management doesn't work on Michael because he's emotionally retarded. But I also think it's a stupid failure, because for that very same reason, Michael is extremely easy to keep happy. Just be nice to him, remember his birthday, basically treat him like a little kid who you care about. (Non-sexually.)
And it's not really out of character for Michael to do what he did. He always pulls this sudden competence out of his ass when things get tough. I mean, it doesn't really manifest in any kind of social grace, but having him suddenly show a bit of business acumen isn't terrible.
I mean, to sum everything up, he got rid of his nemesis, stabilized his position in the company and took care of his employees. Plus he got a shot back in at the company that had been fucking with him all year. I don't know how that qualifies as shitting the bed, especially when you look at it from the perspective that he made what seemed to be an astoundingly stupid and reckless decision to quit in the first place. I suppose you could argue that he shit the bed then, but he did a damn good job of changing the sheets.
Next week, destroying the evidence.
yesss
Also, it amused me how Charles was acting a LOT like Michael used to in this episode.
Saying "Oh okay, take your time" when David said he wanted to say something, the intense kissing up to David Wallace, etc.
And the end was just... oh... just a delight.
shoe bitch was pretty damn great