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Running Zombies

Reservoir AngelReservoir Angel __BANNED USERS regular
edited September 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
I've been getting into Zombie movies recently, and I've noticed that all of a sudden in most recent films of the zombified persuasion, the zombies are exceptionally fast and agile.

So now it's got me wondering. What was the first film that had these newer fast-walking zombies?

P.S: i'm not counting 28 Days Later and 28 Weeks Later because they didn't feature zombies, but rather infected humans.

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  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    All zombies are infected humans.

    Except dog zombies I guess.

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  • Reservoir AngelReservoir Angel __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2009
    Zombies are the reanimated dead. Hence how when they're bitten they die then come back to life as the undead (except in 28 Days/Weeks)

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  • RuckusRuckus Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Dawn of the Dead was the first contemporary one I can recall. I never saw it's predecessors so I'm not sure if they had fast movers or not.

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  • AphostileAphostile San Francisco, CARegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Pretty sure it was Dawn of the Dead.

    One could argue that all zombies would be fast... initially. Once they exhaust their muscle fibers (they wouldn't feel the pain of wearing them down that we do), they would begin to move much slower.

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  • theDangertheDanger Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Wikipedia mentions that there are fast zombies in Return of the Living Dead, which I haven't seen

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  • pacbowlpacbowl Los AngelesRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I just dug out the old "Return of the Living Dead" (1985) the other night and had forgotten that it has fast movers in it. Although it's more of a comedy than a serious undead flick, the zombies will run at you.

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  • erraticrabbiterraticrabbit Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I reject Return as Zombie lore. It was good, but not aimed at being serious... I think it's Dawn of the Dead. I don't believe that movie has any mention of how/why at all, except
    the preachers doing their religious thing on TV, but they're not presenting it as their truth, just a reaction from people

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  • theDangertheDanger Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I, uh... I don't think you have the power or the ability to reject something which has happened. They already tried this with the holocaust.

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  • erraticrabbiterraticrabbit Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    theDanger wrote: »
    I, uh... I don't think you have the power or the ability to reject something which has happened. They already tried this with the holocaust.

    wtf? I guess that's a joke, but it's not a good one. In case it's not:

    The movie wasn't serious in any way. it was more satire of the genre. So no, it's not real 'zombie lore' as I see it. And no, it hasn't happened, so I can and will ignore it as far as what counts as the first zombie movie w/ runners. Unless he's asking about zombie comedies/satires.

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  • theDangertheDanger Registered User regular
    edited September 2009

    wtf? I guess that's a joke, but it's not a good one.

    Ouch, my feelings.

    Still, Night of the Living Dead fits all criteria in the OP.

    Edit: I meant Return, but my point stands.

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  • BloodySlothBloodySloth Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    What the Hell is "zombie lore?" Zombie movies aren't some unified document. Return of the Living Dead is a zombie flick just like Night of the Living Dead and Shaun of the Dead.

    Something can be a satire of the genre and still be part of that genre. See Scream.

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  • erraticrabbiterraticrabbit Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I see them as two things, because return and shaun are comedies, and I see that as different to night of the living dead.

    Since the op mentioned 28days later, I took it to mean he meant horror zombies. If he wanted to count comedies, then sure, return has running zombies. it also has dogs, butterflies, and skeletons.

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  • TechBoyTechBoy Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    P.S: i'm not counting 28 Days Later and 28 Weeks Later because they didn't feature zombies, but rather infected humans.

    This is a pretty retarded distinction, but irregardless of whether or not you think the "infected" in 28 Days Later are zombies, I'm pretty sure it was the movie that established "fast zombies".

    If not the first movie to have them, it was the one that popularized the idea and led to them popping up everywhere else.

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  • erraticrabbiterraticrabbit Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I think we can go all the way back to 1932 and find fast zombies, depending on how far we want to bend what a zombie is and what genre's we're using.

    The really old ones are about voodoo and mind control zombies, the original root of this whole awesome thing :)

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  • ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    This Slate article posits that it's the impact of video games on movies. Video game zombies tend to be fast.

    I venture that slow zombies need to be nearly indestructible and unstoppable to seem scary. This is more plausible if you hand your hero(ines) a baseball bat, but everyone wants to carry automatic assault rifles nowadays.

    So fast zombies instead?

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  • Seaborn111Seaborn111 Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    it's also a natural progression for the past 20-30 years or so that audiences want THRILLS instead of tension.

    fast zombies SCARE THE FUCK OUT OF YOU REALLY QUICK BOOO

    slow zombies put you on the edge of your seat biting your nails.

    audiences apparently have paid more lately for the first

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  • Cptn PantsCptn Pants Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Solanum is the virus that causes zombies, zombies come in 2 varieties known as shamblers and striders. Shamblers tend to shamble about slowly and with little coordination and striders are capable of running, jumping, climbing and such. Depending on the mythology you're going by zombies all start out as striders and later degrade into shamblers as their muscles . All zombies are infected humans. There are a lot of creatures that resemble zombies, including the creatures in 28 weeks/months later and the zombie like creatures in Resident Evil.

    Don't know when it started lol sorry

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  • erraticrabbiterraticrabbit Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    slate has all kinds of good articles...

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Return of The Dead is one of my favorite zombie flicks of all time. Just to be a dick, I'll go as far to suggest that every movie that doesn't conform to Return of The Dead's canon, so to speak, is inaccurate.

    EDIT: And if I recall correctly, the director/writer/whatever of Return also worked with Romero on Night, and they separated when Romero disagreed with his ideas. I don't know if Return is supposed to be a parody or what the director/writer/whatever really wanted zombies to become. I think it was both.

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  • erraticrabbiterraticrabbit Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    we should bring it to a vote.

    No zombie buttflies, not a zombie movie.

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  • RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Return of the Dead was great.

    "Send.... more... cops...."

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  • Hotlead JunkieHotlead Junkie Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I know it's not a movie, but I do enjoy the Resident Evil Remake's reason for fast zombies. If a zombie is left for long enough, the virus keeps mutating it until it's enhanced enough/grows claws/gains extra muscle/etc making them faster and stronger, hence why you have to decapitate or burn them.

    If I'm not mistaken, the next step of 'evolution' was the licker, right?

    And as for movies, most of the 'fast zombies' I've seen are usually humans infected with a disease that leaves all their motor skills and mutates them/makes them much more agressive. For example, 28 days later and the same idea goes for Left 4 Dead.

    In some of the 'Living Dead' movies, the fast zombies were the humans that were infected via bites a few hours earlier, basically making them much more agressive and giving them a craving for brains when they 'died'. Basically, all the zombies had the ability to go fast/run or speak, it just depended on how degraded their bodies were. I can't remember which movie it was, but I remember the girl's boyfreind chasing her around a chapel begging to eat her brains.

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  • theSquidtheSquid Sydney, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    The idea behind slow zombies is that they can't move fast due to rigor mortis on their limbs. If we're going with infected humans instead of undead then that is not an issue.

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  • ArtreusArtreus I'm a wizard And that looks fucked upRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    theDanger wrote: »
    I, uh... I don't think you have the power or the ability to reject something which has happened. They already tried this with the holocaust.

    wtf? I guess that's a joke, but it's not a good one. In case it's not:

    The movie wasn't serious in any way. it was more satire of the genre. So no, it's not real 'zombie lore' as I see it. And no, it hasn't happened, so I can and will ignore it as far as what counts as the first zombie movie w/ runners. Unless he's asking about zombie comedies/satires.

    You do know there are a lot of people that deny the holocaust happened and would like to pretend it didn't happen at all. But they don't get to decide whether or not it actually happened.

    He is saying that in the same line, you don't get to decide what is a zombie movie and what isn't.

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  • erraticrabbiterraticrabbit Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    1) Until I became an atheist, I was jewish. I know what it is.

    2) is a thread about fast zombies really getting godwin'd?


    If I were to ask here what the craziest situation in a spy movie was, would we be talking about Naked Gun? I hope not, because it wouldn't accurately be what a spy movie is. It's skewed. Does lucus let starwars fiction be canon? There are things that count towards a fictional construction, and things that don't.

    Obviously there are parameters for what counts, EX: NO 28d later. If you want the intentionally nonsensical comedies to count, fine, count them and reply on-topic accordingly. I'm not going to count them. It probably doesn't matter either way, because the very first movies with zombies were waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back when in black n white under 'voodoo' and 'zonbi' and they were 'fast', so 1985 is far from the first anyway.

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  • BloodySlothBloodySloth Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Isn't Naked Gun a cop movie anyway? :p

    Actually, aren't there some running zombies in the original Dawn of the Dead? There are some undead kids that run around. If we're talking about just undead zombies, then that would probably be your answer.

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  • Dr. FrenchensteinDr. Frenchenstein Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Maybe he means Spy Hard?

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  • PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Maybe he means Spy Hard?

    Steele. Dick Steele. Agent WD-40.

    edit: Fuck you, "This video is unavailable in your country" error. :x

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  • darkmayodarkmayo Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Yea, track star zombies is what we called them back in the day, the day being when we saw the Return of the Living dead movie in the theatre.

    We called bullshit on it then, and I will call it bullshit now. Ok yea, it was more of a horror comedy but I cant abide by running zombies, at least without some rules.


    Freshly dead? Legs intact and unharmed.. ok sure I can accept a runner.

    Long dead, risen from the grave runners... not a fucking chance.

    Sustained running from a freshly dead runner.. sure, right up until the legs fall apart from the constant tearing of muscle.

    As for zombie "Canon" most people point to the Romero zombies as being the canon to follow.

    the running zombies in the dawn of the dead remake are scary because you are pretty much fucked from the get go.

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