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I've been getting into Zombie movies recently, and I've noticed that all of a sudden in most recent films of the zombified persuasion, the zombies are exceptionally fast and agile.
So now it's got me wondering. What was the first film that had these newer fast-walking zombies?
P.S: i'm not counting 28 Days Later and 28 Weeks Later because they didn't feature zombies, but rather infected humans.
One could argue that all zombies would be fast... initially. Once they exhaust their muscle fibers (they wouldn't feel the pain of wearing them down that we do), they would begin to move much slower.
I just dug out the old "Return of the Living Dead" (1985) the other night and had forgotten that it has fast movers in it. Although it's more of a comedy than a serious undead flick, the zombies will run at you.
I reject Return as Zombie lore. It was good, but not aimed at being serious... I think it's Dawn of the Dead. I don't believe that movie has any mention of how/why at all, except
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I, uh... I don't think you have the power or the ability to reject something which has happened. They already tried this with the holocaust.
wtf? I guess that's a joke, but it's not a good one. In case it's not:
The movie wasn't serious in any way. it was more satire of the genre. So no, it's not real 'zombie lore' as I see it. And no, it hasn't happened, so I can and will ignore it as far as what counts as the first zombie movie w/ runners. Unless he's asking about zombie comedies/satires.
What the Hell is "zombie lore?" Zombie movies aren't some unified document. Return of the Living Dead is a zombie flick just like Night of the Living Dead and Shaun of the Dead.
Something can be a satire of the genre and still be part of that genre. See Scream.
I see them as two things, because return and shaun are comedies, and I see that as different to night of the living dead.
Since the op mentioned 28days later, I took it to mean he meant horror zombies. If he wanted to count comedies, then sure, return has running zombies. it also has dogs, butterflies, and skeletons.
P.S: i'm not counting 28 Days Later and 28 Weeks Later because they didn't feature zombies, but rather infected humans.
This is a pretty retarded distinction, but irregardless of whether or not you think the "infected" in 28 Days Later are zombies, I'm pretty sure it was the movie that established "fast zombies".
If not the first movie to have them, it was the one that popularized the idea and led to them popping up everywhere else.
This Slate article posits that it's the impact of video games on movies. Video game zombies tend to be fast.
I venture that slow zombies need to be nearly indestructible and unstoppable to seem scary. This is more plausible if you hand your hero(ines) a baseball bat, but everyone wants to carry automatic assault rifles nowadays.
Solanum is the virus that causes zombies, zombies come in 2 varieties known as shamblers and striders. Shamblers tend to shamble about slowly and with little coordination and striders are capable of running, jumping, climbing and such. Depending on the mythology you're going by zombies all start out as striders and later degrade into shamblers as their muscles . All zombies are infected humans. There are a lot of creatures that resemble zombies, including the creatures in 28 weeks/months later and the zombie like creatures in Resident Evil.
Return of The Dead is one of my favorite zombie flicks of all time. Just to be a dick, I'll go as far to suggest that every movie that doesn't conform to Return of The Dead's canon, so to speak, is inaccurate.
EDIT: And if I recall correctly, the director/writer/whatever of Return also worked with Romero on Night, and they separated when Romero disagreed with his ideas. I don't know if Return is supposed to be a parody or what the director/writer/whatever really wanted zombies to become. I think it was both.
I know it's not a movie, but I do enjoy the Resident Evil Remake's reason for fast zombies. If a zombie is left for long enough, the virus keeps mutating it until it's enhanced enough/grows claws/gains extra muscle/etc making them faster and stronger, hence why you have to decapitate or burn them.
If I'm not mistaken, the next step of 'evolution' was the licker, right?
And as for movies, most of the 'fast zombies' I've seen are usually humans infected with a disease that leaves all their motor skills and mutates them/makes them much more agressive. For example, 28 days later and the same idea goes for Left 4 Dead.
In some of the 'Living Dead' movies, the fast zombies were the humans that were infected via bites a few hours earlier, basically making them much more agressive and giving them a craving for brains when they 'died'. Basically, all the zombies had the ability to go fast/run or speak, it just depended on how degraded their bodies were. I can't remember which movie it was, but I remember the girl's boyfreind chasing her around a chapel begging to eat her brains.
The idea behind slow zombies is that they can't move fast due to rigor mortis on their limbs. If we're going with infected humans instead of undead then that is not an issue.
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I, uh... I don't think you have the power or the ability to reject something which has happened. They already tried this with the holocaust.
wtf? I guess that's a joke, but it's not a good one. In case it's not:
The movie wasn't serious in any way. it was more satire of the genre. So no, it's not real 'zombie lore' as I see it. And no, it hasn't happened, so I can and will ignore it as far as what counts as the first zombie movie w/ runners. Unless he's asking about zombie comedies/satires.
You do know there are a lot of people that deny the holocaust happened and would like to pretend it didn't happen at all. But they don't get to decide whether or not it actually happened.
He is saying that in the same line, you don't get to decide what is a zombie movie and what isn't.
1) Until I became an atheist, I was jewish. I know what it is.
2) is a thread about fast zombies really getting godwin'd?
If I were to ask here what the craziest situation in a spy movie was, would we be talking about Naked Gun? I hope not, because it wouldn't accurately be what a spy movie is. It's skewed. Does lucus let starwars fiction be canon? There are things that count towards a fictional construction, and things that don't.
Obviously there are parameters for what counts, EX: NO 28d later. If you want the intentionally nonsensical comedies to count, fine, count them and reply on-topic accordingly. I'm not going to count them. It probably doesn't matter either way, because the very first movies with zombies were waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back when in black n white under 'voodoo' and 'zonbi' and they were 'fast', so 1985 is far from the first anyway.
Actually, aren't there some running zombies in the original Dawn of the Dead? There are some undead kids that run around. If we're talking about just undead zombies, then that would probably be your answer.
Yea, track star zombies is what we called them back in the day, the day being when we saw the Return of the Living dead movie in the theatre.
We called bullshit on it then, and I will call it bullshit now. Ok yea, it was more of a horror comedy but I cant abide by running zombies, at least without some rules.
Freshly dead? Legs intact and unharmed.. ok sure I can accept a runner.
Long dead, risen from the grave runners... not a fucking chance.
Sustained running from a freshly dead runner.. sure, right up until the legs fall apart from the constant tearing of muscle.
As for zombie "Canon" most people point to the Romero zombies as being the canon to follow.
the running zombies in the dawn of the dead remake are scary because you are pretty much fucked from the get go.
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Except dog zombies I guess.
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
One could argue that all zombies would be fast... initially. Once they exhaust their muscle fibers (they wouldn't feel the pain of wearing them down that we do), they would begin to move much slower.
wtf? I guess that's a joke, but it's not a good one. In case it's not:
The movie wasn't serious in any way. it was more satire of the genre. So no, it's not real 'zombie lore' as I see it. And no, it hasn't happened, so I can and will ignore it as far as what counts as the first zombie movie w/ runners. Unless he's asking about zombie comedies/satires.
Ouch, my feelings.
Still, Night of the Living Dead fits all criteria in the OP.
Edit: I meant Return, but my point stands.
Something can be a satire of the genre and still be part of that genre. See Scream.
Since the op mentioned 28days later, I took it to mean he meant horror zombies. If he wanted to count comedies, then sure, return has running zombies. it also has dogs, butterflies, and skeletons.
This is a pretty retarded distinction, but irregardless of whether or not you think the "infected" in 28 Days Later are zombies, I'm pretty sure it was the movie that established "fast zombies".
If not the first movie to have them, it was the one that popularized the idea and led to them popping up everywhere else.
The really old ones are about voodoo and mind control zombies, the original root of this whole awesome thing
I venture that slow zombies need to be nearly indestructible and unstoppable to seem scary. This is more plausible if you hand your hero(ines) a baseball bat, but everyone wants to carry automatic assault rifles nowadays.
So fast zombies instead?
fast zombies SCARE THE FUCK OUT OF YOU REALLY QUICK BOOO
slow zombies put you on the edge of your seat biting your nails.
audiences apparently have paid more lately for the first
Don't know when it started lol sorry
EDIT: And if I recall correctly, the director/writer/whatever of Return also worked with Romero on Night, and they separated when Romero disagreed with his ideas. I don't know if Return is supposed to be a parody or what the director/writer/whatever really wanted zombies to become. I think it was both.
No zombie buttflies, not a zombie movie.
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If I'm not mistaken, the next step of 'evolution' was the licker, right?
And as for movies, most of the 'fast zombies' I've seen are usually humans infected with a disease that leaves all their motor skills and mutates them/makes them much more agressive. For example, 28 days later and the same idea goes for Left 4 Dead.
In some of the 'Living Dead' movies, the fast zombies were the humans that were infected via bites a few hours earlier, basically making them much more agressive and giving them a craving for brains when they 'died'. Basically, all the zombies had the ability to go fast/run or speak, it just depended on how degraded their bodies were. I can't remember which movie it was, but I remember the girl's boyfreind chasing her around a chapel begging to eat her brains.
You do know there are a lot of people that deny the holocaust happened and would like to pretend it didn't happen at all. But they don't get to decide whether or not it actually happened.
He is saying that in the same line, you don't get to decide what is a zombie movie and what isn't.
2) is a thread about fast zombies really getting godwin'd?
If I were to ask here what the craziest situation in a spy movie was, would we be talking about Naked Gun? I hope not, because it wouldn't accurately be what a spy movie is. It's skewed. Does lucus let starwars fiction be canon? There are things that count towards a fictional construction, and things that don't.
Obviously there are parameters for what counts, EX: NO 28d later. If you want the intentionally nonsensical comedies to count, fine, count them and reply on-topic accordingly. I'm not going to count them. It probably doesn't matter either way, because the very first movies with zombies were waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back when in black n white under 'voodoo' and 'zonbi' and they were 'fast', so 1985 is far from the first anyway.
Actually, aren't there some running zombies in the original Dawn of the Dead? There are some undead kids that run around. If we're talking about just undead zombies, then that would probably be your answer.
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We called bullshit on it then, and I will call it bullshit now. Ok yea, it was more of a horror comedy but I cant abide by running zombies, at least without some rules.
Freshly dead? Legs intact and unharmed.. ok sure I can accept a runner.
Long dead, risen from the grave runners... not a fucking chance.
Sustained running from a freshly dead runner.. sure, right up until the legs fall apart from the constant tearing of muscle.
As for zombie "Canon" most people point to the Romero zombies as being the canon to follow.
the running zombies in the dawn of the dead remake are scary because you are pretty much fucked from the get go.