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Producing words (that you've never heard before).

RhinoRhino TheRhinLOLRegistered User regular
edited September 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
I've been studying Latin for awhile now (just for fun, nothing serious).
Anyways, I can read and write it fairly well (at least the very few bits I know).

But pronouncing it is a different story. I'm learning from a book, so obviously don't have the benefit of a teacher.

Also, I'm really bad at pronouncing English words (words I have heard many times before!). So my spoke Latin must be awful.

Thoughts? There is 2 college courses I can take, but that is about it (and won't be able to take them for a few years to do other unrelated stuff).

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  • Cyd CycloneCyd Cyclone Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    You won't really speak it, even in class. Most people have awful pronunciation skills, which is why, at any reasonable conference, when a paper with Latin (or Greek, for that matter) in it is presented, there's usually a handout containing the text.

    In sum, don't worry about it. Skill trumps pronunciation.

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  • SideAffectsSideAffects Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Latin poetry is where you'd learn pronunciation. Otherwise, you'll rarely, if ever, speak it out loud.

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited September 2009
    Any textbook should have a basic pronunciation guide.

    From what I remember, 'C' is always a hard sound (kah, never sah). 'V' is pronounced like a 'W' (wah, not vah)... er... that's most of what I remember. =)

    See, the problem being: no one speaks Latin outside of maybe Easter Mass.

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  • Cyd CycloneCyd Cyclone Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Chanus wrote: »
    See, the problem being: no one speaks Latin outside of maybe Easter Mass.

    Church Latin pronunciation isn't classical pronunciation. It's like trying to pronounce Old English based on Modern English's pronunciation rules. And no two people speak Church Latin the same way.

    That's why they just make up their own rules for dead languages. It's simpler if everyone agrees.

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  • DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    What everyone else said. Unless you're auditioning for Passion of the Christ 2: Electric Boogaloo, latin pronounciation is not something anyone will ever give you shit for.

    Cornelia est puella romana, motherfucker!
    (Ecce Romani was awesome)

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  • BobCescaBobCesca Is a girl Birmingham, UKRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    If you're desperate to try and pronounce Latin, there are some podcasts out there which may help with the basics, but, as everyone else had said, it is an inexact science.

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited September 2009
    Deebaser wrote: »
    Cornelia est puella romana, motherfucker!
    (Ecce Romani was awesome)

    Hah... that is one of the only complete sentences in Latin I remember.

    The others being:

    Illegitimus non carborundum
    Tempus fugit

    And the classics:

    Semper ubi sub ubi
    Romani i domum (alternately: Romanes eunt domus)

    :P

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  • shadydentistshadydentist Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Chanus wrote: »
    Semper ubi sub ubi

    This made me smile.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Chanus wrote: »
    See, the problem being: no one speaks Latin outside of maybe Easter Mass.
    Church Latin pronunciation isn't classical pronunciation. It's like trying to pronounce Old English based on Modern English's pronunciation rules. And no two people speak Church Latin the same way.

    That's why they just make up their own rules for dead languages. It's simpler if everyone agrees.
    Yes, this. Ecclesiastical Latin is pronounced completely different from Classicial Latin.

    For instance, in Ecclesiastical Latin, the quote "vini, vidi, vici" is pronounced "vinny, veedee, veechey" (almost as if it were Italian). In Classical Latin, it's pronounced "whinny, weedy, weekey."

    It's for the best if you just don't worry about it. It's basically entirely a written language these days, anyhow.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Chanus wrote: »
    Romani i domum
    :P

    How many Romans?!

    Ahhh, Latin class...

    In pictura est Cornelia.

    Cornelia est puella Romana.


    The first things my Latin teacher taught us were "Vespertillio Vir et Robinus."

    I think she made the last bit up.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Chanus wrote: »
    Semper ubi sub ubi
    This made me smile.
    This is possibly the oldest joke in the world.

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  • Cyd CycloneCyd Cyclone Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    If you want a treat (of Hell), try Winnie ille Pu. Just remembering the sources he pulled from makes me cringe.

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  • shadydentistshadydentist Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Thanatos wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    Semper ubi sub ubi
    This made me smile.
    This is possibly the oldest joke in the world.

    And despite 6 years of Latin I had never encountered it.

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited September 2009
    Thanatos wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    Semper ubi sub ubi
    This made me smile.
    This is possibly the oldest joke in the world.

    And despite 6 years of Latin I had never encountered it.

    You did it wrong.

    :P

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  • shadydentistshadydentist Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Chanus wrote: »
    Thanatos wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    Semper ubi sub ubi
    This made me smile.
    This is possibly the oldest joke in the world.

    And despite 6 years of Latin I had never encountered it.

    You did it wrong.

    :P

    My life is now complete.

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