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I've been studying Latin for awhile now (just for fun, nothing serious).
Anyways, I can read and write it fairly well (at least the very few bits I know).
But pronouncing it is a different story. I'm learning from a book, so obviously don't have the benefit of a teacher.
Also, I'm really bad at pronouncing English words (words I have heard many times before!). So my spoke Latin must be awful.
Thoughts? There is 2 college courses I can take, but that is about it (and won't be able to take them for a few years to do other unrelated stuff).
You won't really speak it, even in class. Most people have awful pronunciation skills, which is why, at any reasonable conference, when a paper with Latin (or Greek, for that matter) in it is presented, there's usually a handout containing the text.
In sum, don't worry about it. Skill trumps pronunciation.
Latin poetry is where you'd learn pronunciation. Otherwise, you'll rarely, if ever, speak it out loud.
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ChanusHarbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderatormod
edited September 2009
Any textbook should have a basic pronunciation guide.
From what I remember, 'C' is always a hard sound (kah, never sah). 'V' is pronounced like a 'W' (wah, not vah)... er... that's most of what I remember.
See, the problem being: no one speaks Latin outside of maybe Easter Mass.
See, the problem being: no one speaks Latin outside of maybe Easter Mass.
Church Latin pronunciation isn't classical pronunciation. It's like trying to pronounce Old English based on Modern English's pronunciation rules. And no two people speak Church Latin the same way.
That's why they just make up their own rules for dead languages. It's simpler if everyone agrees.
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Deebaseron my way to work in a suit and a tieAhhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered Userregular
edited September 2009
What everyone else said. Unless you're auditioning for Passion of the Christ 2: Electric Boogaloo, latin pronounciation is not something anyone will ever give you shit for.
Cornelia est puella romana, motherfucker!
(Ecce Romani was awesome)
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BobCescaIs a girlBirmingham, UKRegistered Userregular
edited September 2009
If you're desperate to try and pronounce Latin, there are some podcasts out there which may help with the basics, but, as everyone else had said, it is an inexact science.
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ChanusHarbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderatormod
See, the problem being: no one speaks Latin outside of maybe Easter Mass.
Church Latin pronunciation isn't classical pronunciation. It's like trying to pronounce Old English based on Modern English's pronunciation rules. And no two people speak Church Latin the same way.
That's why they just make up their own rules for dead languages. It's simpler if everyone agrees.
Yes, this. Ecclesiastical Latin is pronounced completely different from Classicial Latin.
For instance, in Ecclesiastical Latin, the quote "vini, vidi, vici" is pronounced "vinny, veedee, veechey" (almost as if it were Italian). In Classical Latin, it's pronounced "whinny, weedy, weekey."
It's for the best if you just don't worry about it. It's basically entirely a written language these days, anyhow.
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In sum, don't worry about it. Skill trumps pronunciation.
From what I remember, 'C' is always a hard sound (kah, never sah). 'V' is pronounced like a 'W' (wah, not vah)... er... that's most of what I remember.
See, the problem being: no one speaks Latin outside of maybe Easter Mass.
Church Latin pronunciation isn't classical pronunciation. It's like trying to pronounce Old English based on Modern English's pronunciation rules. And no two people speak Church Latin the same way.
That's why they just make up their own rules for dead languages. It's simpler if everyone agrees.
Cornelia est puella romana, motherfucker!
(Ecce Romani was awesome)
Hah... that is one of the only complete sentences in Latin I remember.
The others being:
Illegitimus non carborundum
Tempus fugit
And the classics:
Semper ubi sub ubi
Romani i domum (alternately: Romanes eunt domus)
:P
This made me smile.
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For instance, in Ecclesiastical Latin, the quote "vini, vidi, vici" is pronounced "vinny, veedee, veechey" (almost as if it were Italian). In Classical Latin, it's pronounced "whinny, weedy, weekey."
It's for the best if you just don't worry about it. It's basically entirely a written language these days, anyhow.
How many Romans?!
Ahhh, Latin class...
In pictura est Cornelia.
Cornelia est puella Romana.
The first things my Latin teacher taught us were "Vespertillio Vir et Robinus."
I think she made the last bit up.
And despite 6 years of Latin I had never encountered it.
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You did it wrong.
:P
My life is now complete.
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