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Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer

RocielRociel Registered User regular
edited January 2007 in Graphic Violence
Well, the trailer for this is now being shown at theatres. However, a cam version of it is already online. I know that since the first film was pretty bad, I shouldn't get excited over this. However, from the trailer, it looks to be shaping up well. It looks like they spent more money on the sequence in the trailer than they did for the entire first film. Also, the director has said that DOOM will be making an appearance (not to be confused with doom from the first film, who didn't deserve capitalisation). All in all, colour me excited:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wH4vbMAido

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    D.T.D.T. Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Once bitten, twice shy.

    They managed to fuck up just about everything I love about the Fantastic Four in the first film. Except for maybe, sometimes, Johnny Storm.

    Is Tim Story directing this one, too?

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    CharmyCharmy Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    D.T. wrote:
    Once bitten, twice shy.

    They managed to fuck up just about everything I love about the Fantastic Four in the first film. Except for maybe, sometimes, Johnny Storm.

    Is Tim Story directing this one, too?

    Yes, sadly.

    I've always said, with how poor the last one was, they might as well have just let me do it. It would have been about Dr. Doom sending the Fantastic Four back in time to steal Blackbeard's gold.

    You know, Oscar bait.

    I really want this to be good, but I'm not that optimistic. I was actually hoping there wouldn't be a sequel, so it would be easier to reboot the franchise a few years down the road.

    Oh well. We'll see how it goes. The teaser trailer was pretty good, at least.

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    CowbombCowbomb Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Charmy wrote:
    I've always said, with how poor the last one was, they might as well have just let me do it. It would have been about Dr. Doom sending the Fantastic Four back in time to steal Blackbeard's gold.

    Why would the FF steal from the Thing? :P

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    CharmyCharmy Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Cowbomb wrote:
    Charmy wrote:
    I've always said, with how poor the last one was, they might as well have just let me do it. It would have been about Dr. Doom sending the Fantastic Four back in time to steal Blackbeard's gold.

    Why would the FF steal from the Thing? :P

    No, you see, they go back to steal Blackbeard's gold, only for it to turn out The Thing IS Blackbeard.

    Clearly one of the most brilliant stories ever written. I love it so. Bonus points for Dr. Doom's first appearance, too.

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    RonnieWooWoo!RonnieWooWoo! Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    No matter how shitty this movie it is, the sheer awesomeness of Michael Chiklis will make it slightly less shitty.

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    D.T.D.T. Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    As much respect as I have for Chiklis, he was a terrible Ben Grimm.

    I chalk it up to poor direction, though.

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    edited December 2006
    I liked the first one just fine.

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    KumaKuma Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    no Galactus shown? for shame

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    DaMoonRulzDaMoonRulz Mare ImbriumRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    I thought Grimm, Johnny, and Reed were just fine in the movie. Jessica Alba was cast strictly because of her name, and Doom...well...maybe next time.

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    Target PracticeTarget Practice Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Wait, the Silver Surfer by himself is the villain? No Galactus?

    Lame.

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    OrogogusOrogogus San DiegoRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Wouldn't 616 Galactus be, like, the worst thing ever on a movie screen? Or is he depicted as something besides a really big guy in armor nowadays? If it's still the purple and blue, it just sounds like it would look about as classy as Land of the Lost.

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    Synthetic OrangeSynthetic Orange Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    It's probably a bad sign when I cant wait for a trailer to finish.

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    Brodo FagginsBrodo Faggins Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    It's probably a bad sign when I cant wait for a trailer to finish.

    bingo.

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    Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Geebs wrote:
    I liked the first one just fine.

    Same here, except for Doom. The actor they got was fine, and so was the backstory. The thing that messed it all up was that, in the end, he looked and sounded like a lame monster from a B horror movie, not at all what the character should be like.

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    DaMoonRulzDaMoonRulz Mare ImbriumRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    And I didn't care for the attempt to get some of Doom's background into the story for doing the lean and wink. Same thing with Yoda in Ep. III. "Thank you my friend *lean* CHEWBACCA *wink*". "This isn't the old country. This isn't *lean* LATVERIA *wink*"

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    Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited December 2006
    I didn't think the first one was that bad. Jessica Alba was terrible, but the other stuff was just campy.

    I mean, FF4 is supposed to be lighthearted and cheesy (from what I know), but the movie was just "let's do this stuff just to do stuff!"

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    Spectre-xSpectre-x Rating: AWESOME YESRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    relevant to the thread

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    LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Keith wrote:
    I didn't think the first one was that bad. Jessica Alba was terrible, but the other stuff was just campy.

    I mean, FF4 is supposed to be lighthearted and cheesy (from what I know), but the movie was just "let's do this stuff just to do stuff!"

    Sort of the same idea with X3. God. Damn. That. Movie.

    Anyway, I am not looking forward to more Jessica Alba action, just like I'm so sad that they're writing her a totally new part for the second Sin City. :(

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    reVersereVerse Attack and Dethrone God Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    I liked Doom. Sure, he wasn't Doom Doom, but he was still pretty cool. The actor was a very good cast.

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    ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    The only problem I had with the first one was that Doom was basically an exact copy of Green Goblin from the Spider-man movie. If they'd had a better way of him becoming a villain, or even if Spider-man hadn't done it first, I wouldn't have had any problems with it.

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    Romero ZombieRomero Zombie Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    I saw this preview the other night when we saw Night at the Mansion. The trailer didn't look half bad...but the trailer didn't look half bad for the first film either.

    Silver Surfer looked awesome, and we'll all end up seeing it just so we can bitch about it here :)

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    DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2006
    Scooter wrote:
    The only problem I had with the first one was that Doom was basically an exact copy of Green Goblin from the Spider-man movie. If they'd had a better way of him becoming a villain, or even if Spider-man hadn't done it first, I wouldn't have had any problems with it.

    That board room scene was ripped right from Spider-Man. The entire idea of being made of metal is just retarded, how can you possibly be able to move and still retain that level of durability?

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    SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Scooter wrote:
    The only problem I had with the first one was that Doom was basically an exact copy of Green Goblin from the Spider-man movie. If they'd had a better way of him becoming a villain, or even if Spider-man hadn't done it first, I wouldn't have had any problems with it.

    That board room scene was ripped right from Spider-Man. The entire idea of being made of metal is just retarded, how can you possibly be able to move and still retain that level of durability?

    Ask colossus...

    Regardless, I liked the first movie. Of course, my expectations for it could not have been lower thanks to comic purists like yourselves, so that may have had something to do with it.

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    HenslerHensler Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Scooter wrote:
    The only problem I had with the first one was that Doom was basically an exact copy of Green Goblin from the Spider-man movie. If they'd had a better way of him becoming a villain, or even if Spider-man hadn't done it first, I wouldn't have had any problems with it.

    That board room scene was ripped right from Spider-Man. The entire idea of being made of metal is just retarded, how can you possibly be able to move and still retain that level of durability?

    Durability? Metal is more durable than flesh, isn't it? I sort of agree, though. I mean, what are they going to have in FF2? A man made out of rock?

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    bobgorilabobgorila Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Is it just me, or is Movie Doom more like Ultimate Doom than 616-Doom?

    That trailer looked... blurry. I want to see a proper HD encode of this trailer, because I liked the first film and the Silver Surfer is awesome.

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    The Muffin ManThe Muffin Man Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Geebs wrote:
    I liked the first one just fine.

    Same here, except for Doom. The actor they got was fine, and so was the backstory. The thing that messed it all up was that, in the end, he looked and sounded like a lame monster from a B horror movie, not at all what the character should be like.

    When they make the last FF movie with Doom as the big villain, it totally needs old school Doom. Like, Dooms got Reed held by Doombots and shit.
    "Why do you do what you do?"
    "To fuck with you, really."

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    HenslerHensler Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Wait, the Silver Surfer by himself is the villain? No Galactus?

    Lame.

    Not having Galactus in this one just lets them have the biggest cliffhanger and sequel set-up ever. And gives them a few more years to figure out how the hell Galactus is going to work on the big screen.

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    The Muffin ManThe Muffin Man Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Hensler wrote:
    Wait, the Silver Surfer by himself is the villain? No Galactus?

    Lame.

    Not having Galactus in this one just lets them have the biggest cliffhanger and sequel set-up ever. And gives them a few more years to figure out how the hell Galactus is going to work on the big screen.

    That'd be a great ending.

    They bring Silver Surfer to something resembling the edge of defeat, and he stands up.
    Reed finally gets a word in edgewise and asks "Why are you here? We couldn't stop you from destroying the planet if we tried. What is your purpose here?"
    And the movie ends with Silver Surfer pointing up, and says "Not my purpose. His."
    And the movie closes.

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    werehippywerehippy Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Hensler wrote:
    Wait, the Silver Surfer by himself is the villain? No Galactus?

    Lame.

    Not having Galactus in this one just lets them have the biggest cliffhanger and sequel set-up ever. And gives them a few more years to figure out how the hell Galactus is going to work on the big screen.

    That'd be a great ending.

    They bring Silver Surfer to something resembling the edge of defeat, and he stands up.
    Reed finally gets a word in edgewise and asks "Why are you here? We couldn't stop you from destroying the planet if we tried. What is your purpose here?"
    And the movie ends with Silver Surfer pointing up, and says "Not my purpose. His."
    And the movie closes.

    See, that's a great ending, but it presupposes that this movie will be good enough to deserve a sequel (See Super Mario Bros).

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    HenslerHensler Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    werehippy wrote:
    Hensler wrote:
    Wait, the Silver Surfer by himself is the villain? No Galactus?

    Lame.

    Not having Galactus in this one just lets them have the biggest cliffhanger and sequel set-up ever. And gives them a few more years to figure out how the hell Galactus is going to work on the big screen.

    That'd be a great ending.

    They bring Silver Surfer to something resembling the edge of defeat, and he stands up.
    Reed finally gets a word in edgewise and asks "Why are you here? We couldn't stop you from destroying the planet if we tried. What is your purpose here?"
    And the movie ends with Silver Surfer pointing up, and says "Not my purpose. His."
    And the movie closes.

    See, that's a great ending, but it presupposes that this movie will be good enough to deserve a sequel (See Super Mario Bros).

    If the first FF movie was good enough to warrant a sequel, it's pretty much a sure thing that this one will get one, too.

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    AlgertmanAlgertman Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Charmy wrote:
    Cowbomb wrote:
    Charmy wrote:
    I've always said, with how poor the last one was, they might as well have just let me do it. It would have been about Dr. Doom sending the Fantastic Four back in time to steal Blackbeard's gold.

    Why would the FF steal from the Thing? :P

    No, you see, they go back to steal Blackbeard's gold, only for it to turn out The Thing IS Blackbeard.

    Clearly one of the most brilliant stories ever written. I love it so. Bonus points for Dr. Doom's first appearance, too.

    Agreed

    that and "Namor buys a movie studio so he can hire the F4 and try to kill the guys so he score with Sue" issue

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    werehippywerehippy Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Hensler wrote:
    werehippy wrote:
    Hensler wrote:
    Wait, the Silver Surfer by himself is the villain? No Galactus?

    Lame.

    Not having Galactus in this one just lets them have the biggest cliffhanger and sequel set-up ever. And gives them a few more years to figure out how the hell Galactus is going to work on the big screen.

    That'd be a great ending.

    They bring Silver Surfer to something resembling the edge of defeat, and he stands up.
    Reed finally gets a word in edgewise and asks "Why are you here? We couldn't stop you from destroying the planet if we tried. What is your purpose here?"
    And the movie ends with Silver Surfer pointing up, and says "Not my purpose. His."
    And the movie closes.

    See, that's a great ending, but it presupposes that this movie will be good enough to deserve a sequel (See Super Mario Bros).

    If the first FF movie was good enough to warrant a sequel, it's pretty much a sure thing that this one will get one, too.

    I don't know. The first made money, but was panned by most everyone. How much of a repeat audience can they necessarily hope to pull in with such a weak lead?

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    BlankspaceBlankspace __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2006
    werehippy wrote:
    Hensler wrote:
    werehippy wrote:
    Hensler wrote:
    Wait, the Silver Surfer by himself is the villain? No Galactus?

    Lame.

    Not having Galactus in this one just lets them have the biggest cliffhanger and sequel set-up ever. And gives them a few more years to figure out how the hell Galactus is going to work on the big screen.

    That'd be a great ending.

    They bring Silver Surfer to something resembling the edge of defeat, and he stands up.
    Reed finally gets a word in edgewise and asks "Why are you here? We couldn't stop you from destroying the planet if we tried. What is your purpose here?"
    And the movie ends with Silver Surfer pointing up, and says "Not my purpose. His."
    And the movie closes.

    See, that's a great ending, but it presupposes that this movie will be good enough to deserve a sequel (See Super Mario Bros).

    If the first FF movie was good enough to warrant a sequel, it's pretty much a sure thing that this one will get one, too.

    I don't know. The first made money, but was panned by most everyone. How much of a repeat audience can they necessarily hope to pull in with such a weak lead?
    If I remeber correctly it opened to little or no competition. The week after it scored huge at the box office and some other movies came out it dropped like a rock.

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    ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    bobgorila wrote:
    Is it just me, or is Movie Doom more like Ultimate Doom than 616-Doom?

    That trailer looked... blurry. I want to see a proper HD encode of this trailer, because I liked the first film and the Silver Surfer is awesome.

    A lot of the movies draw on Ultimate Universe in some ways. Which is logical, you get more streamlined origin stories and all that which translate better to film.

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    werehippywerehippy Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Scooter wrote:
    bobgorila wrote:
    Is it just me, or is Movie Doom more like Ultimate Doom than 616-Doom?

    That trailer looked... blurry. I want to see a proper HD encode of this trailer, because I liked the first film and the Silver Surfer is awesome.

    A lot of the movies draw on Ultimate Universe in some ways. Which is logical, you get more streamlined origin stories and all that which translate better to film.

    And in some instances the movies guided the Ultimate versions. I'm pretty sure movie Rogue was introduced before Ultimate Rogue, and was pretty much the template they used. I feel like there were other examples, but I can't think of them off the top of my head.

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    laughterkillsmelaughterkillsme Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Hensler wrote:
    Wait, the Silver Surfer by himself is the villain? No Galactus?

    Lame.

    Not having Galactus in this one just lets them have the biggest cliffhanger and sequel set-up ever. And gives them a few more years to figure out how the hell Galactus is going to work on the big screen.

    That'd be a great ending.

    They bring Silver Surfer to something resembling the edge of defeat, and he stands up.
    Reed finally gets a word in edgewise and asks "Why are you here? We couldn't stop you from destroying the planet if we tried. What is your purpose here?"
    And the movie ends with Silver Surfer pointing up, and says "Not my purpose. His."
    And the movie closes.

    That is fucking beyond brilliant. Holy shit.

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    SUPERSUGASUPERSUGA Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    John Goodman to voice/play Galactus.

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    Bob The MonkeyBob The Monkey Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    SUPERSUGA wrote:
    John Goodman to voice/play Galactus.

    Eight billion year olds, dude.

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    BlankspaceBlankspace __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2006
    SUPERSUGA wrote:
    Orson Welles to voice/play Galactus. FROM THE GRAVE!

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    Diablo FettDiablo Fett Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    SUPERSUGA wrote:
    Orson Welles to voice/play Galactus. FROM THE GRAVE!
    They can just get Jack Black and it'll be the same thing.

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