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FREESPACE: THE GREATEST VIDEO GAME EVER

ionosphereionosphere Registered User new member
edited December 2009 in Games and Technology
Alright Zxerol told you about Descent I, ][, and 3, and he gave you a tid-bit of information about Freespace and how complicated and awesome it was?
Well is it? DAMN STRAIGHT! Is it as good as Descent? Hell no but at the same time hell yes.
But let’s start at the beginning
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WHAT THE HELL IS THIS???

this game is the most motherfucking complicated and un-complicated game you will EVER play. The story is very in-depth you have vivid audio-visual effects, and cut-scenes to revamp your game-play experience and understanding, if your puny minds are even capable of putting together a story worth a crap. *Sarcastic dumbass voice* "Well what about YOU?" Why the hell would I be posting this if I didn't understand it?

In this game you aren't some merc you’re a paid full time military bad-ass who kicks ass and chews bubblegum and doesn't say a damn thing though the ENTIRE CAMPAIGN, but you don't have too, why? CAUSE YOU GIVE THE FUCKING ORDERS, why? YOU’RE MOTHER FUCKING ALPHA ONE! YOU RUN THE WHOLE DAMN SHOW! Except the big ships but you can order to blow the hell out of your target (or depart) that's right you have to GIVE THE ORDERS.

You can chose individual ships, wings or every fucking ship that's under your command, to 1. Attack your target 2. Defend your target 3. Disable your target (engines) 4 disarm (weapons subsystem and the individual turrets) your target 5. Target my targeted subsystem 6. Ignore your target, 7. Form on your wing 8. Cover you (defend your ass) 9. Engage all enemies and 0. Depart.

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it. Yeah you didn't give the right order and now you failed your main objective go crawl up in a corner and cut yourself, you fail (unless you are on VERY HARD (Insane) unless your a noob). Oh speaking of objectives, oh boy did you have some ridiculous objectives. Sometimes you have to FAIL the objective for the story to continue so if you cheat you might fail anyway, speaking of cheats if you cheat in Freespace: The Great War, you can't get to the next mission. "HAX!"*chucks CRT monitor.* yeah cheats are for wimps unless your just testing out all of the guns which there are a TON of, including beamcannons (Freespace2 and FSPort for FSOpen), flak cannons (same as before but Freespace: another great war and not the FSPort) and other awesome shit like the Shivan Super Laser which is the Lucy's main gun

your types are Primary: you need these to win Secondary: Bonus points a possible medal or even a invite from SOC Bonus: lots of extra points, hidden from your objective tick box. and even PLOT TWISTS "DUN-NUH!" and you can even make decisions that will effect game-play in later missions.

REALLY FUCKED UP CONTROLS

Remember when Zxerol said that you had 26 controls just for targeting? guess what. TARGETING HAS ITS OWN FUCKING TAB IN THE CONTROLLER MAPPING SECTION IN THE OPTIONS. Oh and bombs are a biggie, make damn sure you memorize that button or you are fucked. weapon controls are pretty basic, main gun, missiles, countermeasures (bet you can't figure out how to use them), next primary, previous primary (cycling all the way through primaries links all of your guns), cycle secondary, single double secondary fire. next tab was for movement you had only pitch, yaw, go forward, go back, afterburner, banking (no not the place that stores your credit card debts), and your subspace-drive (warp-drive, hyperspace whatever you suckvoid hippies call it, ITS STILL MOTHER FUCKING SUB-SPACE THE SPACE UNDER SPACE). later in the SourceCodeProject executable they added strafing but none of the non-modded ships are capable of it . Oh, yeah, physics in this game are unreally real and will turn your absent mind into oatmeal in a microwave with no water (but in the main game your ships ALWAYS had to fucking use inertial dampeners (sort of, that's just the way the ships where set up). then there is MISC which included multiplayer controls, chat, some system stuff, shield management, and, oh hears a good one, ENERGY MANAGEMENT.

That's right assholes, no more 200 energy units just for your guns, afterburner, and head-light boost; your ship has recharging energy. You have shields, engines, and weapons. shields are mostly self explanatory except different ships had different base recharge rates, engines changed your normal top speed according to your base speed and changed your afterburner recharge rate but its speed is not changed, and weapons just affected the recharge rate of your wep-en tank, its different for every ship as well as the base out put, I've probably just lost you already but its not my fault if consume yourself in games rather than using them to expand your imagination LIKE I DID. Yeah, your weapon system is out and your energy is all in your engines as you try helplessly to get away from a fighter and your in a fucking Ursa, the thing ignores your puny 60 mps with its 150 mps afterburner and ass rapes you with Hornets. Ursas have THE MOST POWERFUL SHIELD IN THE GAME go to hell for wrecking my papa-bear (Ursa is Latin for Bear dumbass) you don't deserve you fly one of those. hell, you could have called for help, diverted your weapon energy to shields (yes you can do that), told your wing mates to cover you, and called a rearm ship to restore your subsystems then turn and face the fuck and pound him with your Prometheus, or insult his shields with your maxim, hell you NEED one of those if your going up against a ship with anti-fighter/bomber cannons, I don't care if you can't take down a fighter because of its shields that's just because you have no skill and no longetivety or patience, which is a big shiting deal in REAL LIFE so get over it and get used to it. Yeah most games today are fucking brain washing and stupid but this awesome game isn't just a game, it bloody teaches you LIFE SKILLS and expands your IMAGINATION(oh by the way when you get Admiral the game tells you to go read a book), hmm, image that, oh wait that’s right! (The maxim does low shield damage but tears a hueg fucking hole in armor and subsystems, oh and it has a range of 3.5k)

COMPICATED SHIPS

Yeah, as I was talking about earlier there are something called SUBSYSTEMS yeah systems below blowing the hell out of something, like on a mission in which you have to disable a ship or capture it. Yeah, you forgot to bring your disruptor cannon and your teammates are busy killing enemy ships and by the time they are done your objective has fled, and now command is IGNORING YOU LA LA LA LA LA I CAN’T HEAR YOU, cause that’s how it is IRL, you fail, everyone hates you. Subsystems include: Engines, Weapons, Sensors, Navigation, Communication, Turrets, and reactors (you need to blow (no not fornicate you dumbass cockmonglers) all five on the Lucy (except the Narlethotep) to kill it the RIGHT way), oh and radar towers on certain ships like the GTDestroyer: Orion (FS1), GTSwacs: Cherybodis(FS2), and the GTMedical Frigate: Hippocrates(FS2), oh and I bet you cant figure out why each of these ships have them. Yeah plus the GTC: Fenris and GTC: Leviathan have one big ass one on top.

REALISTIC PHYSICS

Hell loads better than the Source Engine; this game had it all, inertia, gravity (in FSOpen), partial spew, weight, mass, moment of inertia, center of mass, and even weapon kinetic force.
However the ship speed is really pathetic like 50 MPH, for a freaking interceptor (trust me I used a TI-83+) but that’s ONLY because you stupid, passive people could at least get a glimpse of the enemy before he blew your ass to hell and back.

OH, and another thing, EACH weapon had good science, YEAH moron! EACH FUCKING WEAPON had ACCURATE science attached too it, because Volition, Parallax, and Interplay are just that badass (oh yeah you people who claim that Fallout3 is so great and Bethesda is so wonderful (yeah, i have to admit they do have great games), and that Interplay is dead and their games are obsolete?) guess what fuckheads? INTERPLAY HAS FULL COPYRIGHT TO FALLOUT, why? Because THEY MADE the FIRST 3 games 1, 2 AND Tactics! So there you mindless, passive cunts of the elite and conglomerate, but it’s not their fault, just yours. You made the decision not to decide so you fail (YOUFAIL.ORG), because knowledge is the discovery of YOUR OWN ignorance. People like you make Einstein and all of those other brilliant minds turn over in their graves.

MODIFICATIONS

Freespace Open is very easily modded and there are some fucktasticly awesome mods out there, ones that will pop your acorn size minds and eat them for a snack at how much this game is capable as far as narrative, story-telling, progression, and evolution. So, you think Transcend is about you becoming a superhero and saving the day, WRONG, yeah you save the day, BUT YOU FIGHT THE SUPERFORCE (no not the energy from the Big-Bang, and not that show),

and oh boy is it a trip, disappearing ships, unknown encounters, disturbing as hell audio, and creepy ass shit teleporting stealth fighters (well just one), its the best fucking horror story / mind fuck IN EXSTANCE its better than any horror movie hollywood has ever cum out with, and you are put thru hell and back JUST to get to the last fight.

Four of the greatest mods (in my opinion) in the history of Freespace are Derelict, BluePlanet, Just Another Day, and Transcend.
Derelict is the fan fiction equivalent of FS3 and is well told, has good voice narrative and twists and turns on every corner. There aren’t any new weapons or ships but with a story and gameplay of this quality you can't say it isn't anything new, oh and there are people out there who think games are bad and want them banned (fucking communists), but bitch, look how people can get their cooperative and creative juices flowing to make shit like this man LOOK AT THIS, IT'S GOLD MAN GOLD. IT’S A FUCKING BOOK IN A GAME.

Yeah there are some people who read books just to waste time, that’s right you bitchy people, "Oh go read a book and stop playing those dumb video games, they'll rot your brains and make your eyes turn square!" Hehe, dumbass never had the experience I had with them, but sadly they close there brains off. Because education does NOT fill ones mind but opens it. Because you can know a million facts and still have learned and be capable of NOTHING. My hat goes of to all of the great people who supported and worked diligently on this long and well made mod. Thanks for proving the Politians dead wrong "Oh well this doesn't prove anything!" guess what, i don't care what you have to say because it's not the government that makes a country great ITS THE PEOPLE. That’s why the Constitution says: "WE THE PEOPLE" and not WE THE POLITIANS, bitch.

BluePlanet has to be the BEST told and super deep storyline. Darius wrote his own damn Fan Fiction and MUSIC to go along with it. Hell he even named one of his songs after someone from FS2: Konsno II (Vasudan), new weapons, ships, COMMUNICATION ANIMATIONS, (he did not make them all but still made great good use of them) beautifully crafted new starship models, and new color maps to go along with it, new beam cannons, among other stuff. My hat goes of to Darius and his work.

Just Another Day is the Freespace equivalent of our Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams (which in my opinion is the second best book in existence). this entire 3 part romp is fucking hilarious. It is the video game equivalent of Youtube Poops, and has hilarious references to: Stargate, Firefly (Hell yes), Starwars, Battlecruiser 3000, disco music, beer, MONTY PYTHON!, Mario, MSG: 4 GotP (TIME PARADOX), Snakes on a Plane (TERRAN FRACKING COMMAND), Groovin 2: Electric Boogaloo, of course the all famous FORTH WALL, anime and more. Just like HGttG, this mod is impossible to understand if you have a passive mind. Alpha1: "Hey, the battle seems to be going slower than usual." Command: "That’s because your brain can't handle all the action, you need to get it upgraded as soon as possible." My hat goes of to Axem and this work of art.

Transcend is the mind fucking, bastard child of Ransom Arceihn's imagination. IT is THE BEST horror story EVER played, oh yeah and the entire story unfolds in your cockpit (except, pilot journals) so you don't miss out on a damn thing, plus it fits in EXACTLY as in how a Epic is told, so it's definitely book capable. My hat goes off to Arceihn and this- this BOFH made horror story and it NEEDS to be recorded, made a playable movie, and sent to SyFy, not so they can make a live-action but actually play it like it is (oh, and add voice acting).It's really long too. That's right you go back and forth to Ground-Zero.

OH, YEAH! Once you have played the main FS2 campaign Second Shivan Incursion go look at A Journey of the Forgotten by Singh. It IS novel material, but he stopped updating it a while back and it's locked so you can't post anything.

There are also the Babylon Project, BattleStar Galactica: Beyond the Red Line, and WingCommander Saga total conversions which are awesome.

Not only that, but DaBrain of Game-warden forums is making a another total conversion: StarFox: Shadows of Lylat and he even has models of the cities, the out board reticule, pretty much all the ships and even most of the weapons (just needs to get the charge laser working).

GRAPHICS!

Freespace2 also uses a portal render to prevent over-loading of the battle field especially during beamcannon fights

But look at this sweet ass shit WARNING: ACTUAL IN GAME CONTENT!
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And that’s not even HALF of what FSOpen is capable of. Go rot in a hole you absent minded people, you don’t deserve to play this.

Oh yeah and FSOpen supports OpenGL and uses OpenAL (not directsound) and can even go higher than 1080p at 120Hz also it runs on Vista, OS, and even Linux, but you need the separate executables

Websites:

http://hard-light.net/
http://www.game-warden.com/
http://scp.indiegames.us/
http://www.freespacemods.net
http://www.sectorgame.com/fs2/

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  • Lord YodLord Yod Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Those screens are extremely large. You may want to spoiler them.

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  • AlebakAlebak Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I played the HELL out of Free Space.
    Nothing like seeing the Lucifer for the first time: "It's how big?....Damn"

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  • ThegreatcowThegreatcow Lord of All Bacons Washington State - It's Wet up here innit? Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I am bluedotting because all the bacon in the universe cannot compare to the glory and joy that I experienced playing this game.

    Let me tell you, there is nothing more spine tingling terror-inducing, pants wetting then trying to search for an enemy supership in a gaseous nebula....

    You can only see like 1 click ahead of you, suddenly squad after squad of search parties start vanishing off your friendlies list....

    A frantic scouter ship suddenly comes screaming towards you. The pilot screams incoherently, he screams to get the hell out of here, get out no-

    His radio goes silent, his ship explodes from some unseen damage....

    Heavy cruisers are called in...

    They scan and scan, but they cannot find it....

    And then....

    Something shows up on the radar, it's indistinct...but huge, bigger than anything you've seen before.....

    Two MASSIVE energy beams pierce the veil. AND VAPORIZE YOUR TWO HEAVY CRUISER ESCORTS IN SECONDS!!!

    OH SHIT SON! IT GOT REAL!!! ARGHGAMGAGAAGGHGHHHHH.....

    Meet the SV Sathanas.....hehe....just search for images of that name and you'll see what I mean..It's basically what happens if the Predator's Face got made into a ship....

    *ahem*

    So yeah, that's the kind of awesomeness you get to experience with these games. Brutal learning curve, but goddam if they don't ahve some of the best production values that haven't been seen in a space combat sim since.

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    PEW PEW PEW

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  • ThegreatcowThegreatcow Lord of All Bacons Washington State - It's Wet up here innit? Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    august wrote: »
    PEW PEW PEW

    Oh yes, there was pewing and pewpewage....

    There also was a smattering of boomboom and 'splosions as well as shockwaves, shrapnel, countermeasures, and tactical nuclear wombats that are used against capital ships as well.....

    (Note: Tactical nuclear wombats not available in all campaigns)

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  • ThegreatcowThegreatcow Lord of All Bacons Washington State - It's Wet up here innit? Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Dammit I'm at work and I want to play this all right the hell now....*sigh* a downloading I shall be tonight....Damn You Deus Ex effect!

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Sometimes when I'm bored and out of it and browsing the web I automatically type www.freespace2.com into my address bar.

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  • ThegreatcowThegreatcow Lord of All Bacons Washington State - It's Wet up here innit? Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    august wrote: »
    Sometimes when I'm bored and out of it and browsing the web I automatically type www.freespace2.com into my address bar.

    Haha, that was probably one of the most memorable ways to enter cheat mode in a game ever. :D

    Helloooo unlimited energy/secondary weapon ammo! Only darn cheat that wouldn't cause you to auto-fail each mission. XD

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I totally forgot about that cheat, somewhere in my lizard brain I'm looking for Freespace 2 news apparently.

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  • ThegreatcowThegreatcow Lord of All Bacons Washington State - It's Wet up here innit? Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    It's just such a shame that the whole "Space Combat Sim" genre has gone completely belly up since Volition when kersplody oh-so-many years ago, I haven't really come across anything that approaches the...oh how would I put it...."controlled complex madness" that the Freespace series came with, that or the polish.

    Ah well, we can only hope.

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  • SatsumomoSatsumomo Rated PG! Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    It's just such a shame that the whole "Space Combat Sim" genre has gone completely belly up since Volition when kersplody oh-so-many years ago, I haven't really come across anything that approaches the...oh how would I put it...."controlled complex madness" that the Freespace series came with, that or the polish.

    Ah well, we can only hope.

    But... Saint's Row and Red Faction Guerrilla were made by Volition.


    Freespace 2... The one thing I remember the most of it back in the day was the amazing sound production they put into it. Play it today and the sound is "adequate". This game really set a standard on how to produce a game back in 1998.

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  • ThegreatcowThegreatcow Lord of All Bacons Washington State - It's Wet up here innit? Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Satsumomo wrote: »
    It's just such a shame that the whole "Space Combat Sim" genre has gone completely belly up since Volition when kersplody oh-so-many years ago, I haven't really come across anything that approaches the...oh how would I put it...."controlled complex madness" that the Freespace series came with, that or the polish.

    Ah well, we can only hope.

    But... Saint's Row and Red Faction Guerrilla were made by Volition.


    Freespace 2... The one thing I remember the most of it back in the day was the amazing sound production they put into it. Play it today and the sound is "adequate". This game really set a standard on how to produce a game back in 1998.

    Seriously? Huh...I know one studio did go bankrupt right after FS2 came out and the FS license sort of became "open source" but now I don't recall which studio it was....odd...ah well..

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    The engine is open source, the ip and art assets etc are owned by Interplay.

    You will notice the open source people stopped distributing the game itself after it popped up on GOG.

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  • CmdPromptCmdPrompt Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    That was Interplay.


    But yeah, this is the best game ever the end

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  • ThegreatcowThegreatcow Lord of All Bacons Washington State - It's Wet up here innit? Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    august wrote: »
    The engine is open source, the ip and art assets etc are owned by Interplay.

    You will notice the open source people stopped distributing the game itself after it popped up on GOG.

    Ahhh that's it, Interplay is the one I think that went belly up was it? Pretty sure it was, but my google fu at the moment is failing miserably...

    Also, forgive me for not understanding the abbreviation, but GOG?

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  • emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Soooo....what was up with those Shivans anyways? And what happened after Freespace 2? And why what does Freespace have to do with the Descent series? And why isn't Volition making more space-themed shooters? Get to work Volition - this 'one good game every 18 months' isn't quick enough!

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  • SyphonBlueSyphonBlue The studying beaver That beaver sure loves studying!Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Satsumomo wrote: »
    It's just such a shame that the whole "Space Combat Sim" genre has gone completely belly up since Volition when kersplody oh-so-many years ago, I haven't really come across anything that approaches the...oh how would I put it...."controlled complex madness" that the Freespace series came with, that or the polish.

    Ah well, we can only hope.

    But... Saint's Row and Red Faction Guerrilla were made by Volition.


    Freespace 2... The one thing I remember the most of it back in the day was the amazing sound production they put into it. Play it today and the sound is "adequate". This game really set a standard on how to produce a game back in 1998.

    Seriously? Huh...I know one studio did go bankrupt right after FS2 came out and the FS license sort of became "open source" but now I don't recall which studio it was....odd...ah well..

    Interplay, the publisher, went bankrupt and Volition got swept up by THQ. The IP, however, is sort of floating out in the ether.

    However, seeing as Freespace 2 sold approximately 35,000 copies, I doubt anyone is fighting over the rights.

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Interplay still exists and still owns the rights.

    GOG is http://www.gog.com/en/frontpage/

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  • SyphonBlueSyphonBlue The studying beaver That beaver sure loves studying!Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    They do?

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    SyphonBlue wrote: »
    They do?

    Well they are selling the game through GOG.

    I'm pretty sure that means they have the rights.

    Interplay has still hobbled along after its bankruptcy. The only IP that I know of that they've actually sold off is Fallout.

    EDIT: And the Chinese Dungeon Keeper MMO. I think that's just the licensing it out though.

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    emnmnme wrote: »
    Soooo....what was up with those Shivans anyways? And what happened after Freespace 2? And why what does Freespace have to do with the Descent series? And why isn't Volition making more space-themed shooters? Get to work Volition - this 'one good game every 18 months' isn't quick enough!

    Well Volition is owned by THQ now so they don't necessarily get to make exactly the games they want.

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  • SaboSabo Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Funny this topic comes up right now... as a matter of fact I just re-installed Freespace 2 this morning. F'cking awesome game!

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  • Jedi_BoiJedi_Boi Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Fs2 was easily my favorite game all time.

    Won two squad war leagues online when I was playing a lot.

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  • OrogogusOrogogus San DiegoRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    august wrote: »
    emnmnme wrote: »
    Soooo....what was up with those Shivans anyways? And what happened after Freespace 2? And why what does Freespace have to do with the Descent series? And why isn't Volition making more space-themed shooters? Get to work Volition - this 'one good game every 18 months' isn't quick enough!

    Well Volition is owned by THQ now so they don't necessarily get to make exactly the games they want.

    It doesn't necessarily stand to reason that Volition really wants to do another Freespace game, either. FS2 supposedly sold twenty-something-thousand copies throughout its entire run, and it's hard to argue that another sequel would be enormously more popular.

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Orogogus wrote: »
    august wrote: »
    emnmnme wrote: »
    Soooo....what was up with those Shivans anyways? And what happened after Freespace 2? And why what does Freespace have to do with the Descent series? And why isn't Volition making more space-themed shooters? Get to work Volition - this 'one good game every 18 months' isn't quick enough!

    Well Volition is owned by THQ now so they don't necessarily get to make exactly the games they want.

    It doesn't necessarily stand to reason that Volition really wants to do another Freespace game, either. FS2 supposedly sold twenty-something-thousand copies throughout its entire run, and it's hard to argue that another sequel would be enormously more popular.

    That too.

    Although honestly when I found out they were making a GTA clone my eyes rolled pretty hard.

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  • SyphonBlueSyphonBlue The studying beaver That beaver sure loves studying!Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    august wrote: »
    SyphonBlue wrote: »
    They do?

    Well they are selling the game through GOG.

    I'm pretty sure that means they have the rights.

    Interplay has still hobbled along after its bankruptcy. The only IP that I know of that they've actually sold off is Fallout.

    EDIT: And the Chinese Dungeon Keeper MMO. I think that's just the licensing it out though.

    Holy shit, I thought they went out of business.

    GET TO MAKING FREESPACE 3 NOW PLZ THANX

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  • ThegreatcowThegreatcow Lord of All Bacons Washington State - It's Wet up here innit? Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    emnmnme wrote: »
    Soooo....what was up with those Shivans anyways? And what happened after Freespace 2? And why what does Freespace have to do with the Descent series? And why isn't Volition making more space-themed shooters? Get to work Volition - this 'one good game every 18 months' isn't quick enough!

    Spoilars Ahyah!
    Yeah unfortunately, if you stick to canon, we really don't a heckuva lot about the shivans (they even comment about in the science lab in FS2.

    All we know is they're techno-organic lifeforms and they communicate through some kind of subspace communications method (the NTF general you pursue in FS2 sort of figures out how to contact them but he gets kidnapped by them and that's the last you see of him).

    Freespace 2 essentially ends on a "semi-resolved cliffhanger" you end the game by "trapping" them in the Knossos nebula by destroying the Knossos portal device that apparently re-establishes broken portals and stabilizes them and you effectively seal off the node. This is also the same time they use about 80 shivan juggernauts and cause the entire system to go supernova so you basically gained a Pyhrric victory. You're not even sure you really trapped them in the system at all. All you get from the end is the "hope" that you'll somehow be able to figure out the ancient's portal technology to re-establish the broken portal to Sol (ie earth) since it was severed with the destruction of the Lucifer in FS1.

    As for the Descent...I'm not sure why they even bothered including it in the title since the Descent and Freespace universes are completely different, brand recognition I guess.

    Finally, and sadly, the "space combat sim" has been painfully unprofitiable for many companies, they used to be more popular in the early to late 90s, but presence-wise, you're apt to make much more money with an RTS or First person shooter than with a space combat sim as much as I hate to admit it. :(

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    It's just such a shame that the whole "Space Combat Sim" genre has gone completely belly up since Volition when kersplody oh-so-many years ago, I haven't really come across anything that approaches the...oh how would I put it...."controlled complex madness" that the Freespace series came with, that or the polish.

    Ah well, we can only hope.

    I wouldn't say completely belly up...

    Freespace is awesome. It alone makes owning a good joystick worth it, really.

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  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Does FSOpen support widescreen resolutions?

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Yup.

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  • Judge-ZJudge-Z Teacher, for Great Justice Upstate NYRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Well fuck. this thread went and did it. Where are my Freespace 1 and 2 disks...

    What I loved in particular were the briefings. Only two other games ever evoked as much atmosphere through the briefings - Mechwarrior 3 and, to a lesser extent, Starlancer.

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  • emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Judge-Z wrote: »
    Well fuck. this thread went and did it. Where are my Freespace 1 and 2 disks...

    What I loved in particular were the briefings. Only two other games ever evoked as much atmosphere through the briefings - Mechwarrior 3 and, to a lesser extent, Starlancer.

    Myth 2, punk. Show respect!

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  • Judge-ZJudge-Z Teacher, for Great Justice Upstate NYRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    emnmnme wrote: »
    Judge-Z wrote: »
    Well fuck. this thread went and did it. Where are my Freespace 1 and 2 disks...

    What I loved in particular were the briefings. Only two other games ever evoked as much atmosphere through the briefings - Mechwarrior 3 and, to a lesser extent, Starlancer.

    Myth 2, punk. Show respect!

    Listen, junior, I've been gaming since... well, who the hell cares.

    Regrettably, was never able to play Myth 2 because of some screwed up hardware conflict at the time. Then my new job enabled me to start building up a backlog of new games, and I just never went back and played it again.

    Just checked it our on the tubes of you. Yeah, pretty evocative.

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  • MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    http://www.amazon.com/Freespace-2-Pc/dp/B00002EPYV/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=software&qid=1252633725&sr=8-1

    Price: $106.98

    For a game published in '99. The used prices aren't any better.

    Are there any online sellers with new copies that aren't a ridiculous price?

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  • Lord YodLord Yod Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    MKR wrote: »
    http://www.amazon.com/Freespace-2-Pc/dp/B00002EPYV/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=software&qid=1252633725&sr=8-1

    Price: $106.98

    For a game published in '99. The used prices aren't any better.

    Are there any online sellers with new copies that aren't a ridiculous price?

    Is $6 cheap enough?

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  • anoffdayanoffday To be changed whenever Anoffday gets around to it. Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Fox McCloud is in this game? Because I swear that's the R Wing.

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    That's an example of a mod.

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  • Handsome CostanzaHandsome Costanza Ask me about 8bitdo RIP Iwata-sanRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Judge-Z wrote: »
    Well fuck. this thread went and did it. Where are my Freespace 1 and 2 disks...

    What I loved in particular were the briefings. Only two other games ever evoked as much atmosphere through the briefings - Mechwarrior 3 and, to a lesser extent, Starlancer.

    I always loved how the starlancer briefings were pretty much live action. Beforehand you could roam around the ship and stuff. Starlancer is a hugely underrated game IMO. I wish they would have made an new game for that franchise instead of freelancer :( .

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  • MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Lord Yod wrote: »
    MKR wrote: »
    http://www.amazon.com/Freespace-2-Pc/dp/B00002EPYV/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=software&qid=1252633725&sr=8-1

    Price: $106.98

    For a game published in '99. The used prices aren't any better.

    Are there any online sellers with new copies that aren't a ridiculous price?

    Is $6 cheap enough?

    I like having a disk. And I would really like a demo so I know whether or not the game will run. This laptop was the low end of the low end in 2005, and it's never certain.

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  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    MKR wrote: »
    Lord Yod wrote: »
    MKR wrote: »
    http://www.amazon.com/Freespace-2-Pc/dp/B00002EPYV/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=software&qid=1252633725&sr=8-1

    Price: $106.98

    For a game published in '99. The used prices aren't any better.

    Are there any online sellers with new copies that aren't a ridiculous price?

    Is $6 cheap enough?

    I like having a disk.

    Then enjoy paying $106.98

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