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DeeLock
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Hey guys,
This is the first time I've used the H/A Forum and I hope that I can vocalize my problem well enough...
So I've been going to University for two years now and after being frustrated by the art programs at both the schools I've gone to I've decided to go to art school in the city. So I just transferred to the Academy of Art in San Francisco and I start in the Spring. For now I'm living at home and I have been having major space issues and fights with my parents so I'm thinking about moving to the city sooner than later.
The problem I'm having is the time line. I'm not sure if the right thing to do is to move to the city and then find a job, or to find a job and then find an apartment. I live about 1 hour East of San Francisco right now but there is no way that I can commute, especially with traffic in the morning which adds about an hour and a half to the drive.
Another issue I'm having is finding a job...I've applied to like 20 different places in my home town and no one even called me for an interview, so my confidence is shot. I definitely need to score a job when I go to the city otherwise it wouldn't work (obviously.) Does anyone have any advice for finding a job, I have lots of experience doing several different types of jobs (i can post my resume.) I know there's jobs out there, I just can't seem to get one...
Thanks for your time, hope I don't sound like a raving idiot.
This is the first time I've used the H/A Forum and I hope that I can vocalize my problem well enough...
So I've been going to University for two years now and after being frustrated by the art programs at both the schools I've gone to I've decided to go to art school in the city. So I just transferred to the Academy of Art in San Francisco and I start in the Spring. For now I'm living at home and I have been having major space issues and fights with my parents so I'm thinking about moving to the city sooner than later.
The problem I'm having is the time line. I'm not sure if the right thing to do is to move to the city and then find a job, or to find a job and then find an apartment. I live about 1 hour East of San Francisco right now but there is no way that I can commute, especially with traffic in the morning which adds about an hour and a half to the drive.
Another issue I'm having is finding a job...I've applied to like 20 different places in my home town and no one even called me for an interview, so my confidence is shot. I definitely need to score a job when I go to the city otherwise it wouldn't work (obviously.) Does anyone have any advice for finding a job, I have lots of experience doing several different types of jobs (i can post my resume.) I know there's jobs out there, I just can't seem to get one...
Thanks for your time, hope I don't sound like a raving idiot.
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but they're listening to every word I say
Well, you can't well move first then can you?
Do you know how much an appt costs there? Because you are probably going to need at least two months worth of rent saved up and another months worth of rent for security deposit. Probably more as a first time renter.
Last time I checked, eating is also required too, so you are going to need money saved up for buying food. Also, toiletries, furniture, money for entertainment.
How much are appts there and exactly how much money do you have?
but they're listening to every word I say
Did you call them back after you applied, or show up in person again? You really need to go back a few days after and introduce yourself to the manager and ask if they are still hiring. This is pretty much par for the course in non-skilled jobs. Dress nice, but don't wear a suit or anything to get a job at the local grocery store. They will just think you are dumb if you do.
What job experience do you have?
but they're listening to every word I say
If you absolutely have to move though, I would guess finding a place you can afford in downtown San Francisco is going to be pretty hard. You will definitely need a job first as no competent landlord is going to rent you a place without some sort of income. If you know somebody who lives in San Francisco, you could try the couch crashing route for a few months, or just use their address while looking for a job since you don't want your contact info to show you don't live in or close to the city. The other option is to move to one of the satellite cities like Livermore or similar and use the BART for your commute. And then either line up work in that town, or continue your city job search. Finding any job right now is going to be tough though, so I wish you the best of luck there.
My advice would be to stick it out with the parents until you've started school and make some friends that you can eventually couch crash with as Dark_Side suggested.
I'm going to redouble my efforts at home to find a job. I've had experience with tutoring, working in a restaurant as a host, and as a graphic designer. It's just so discouraging after spending a month looking for a job and nobody gives me a call back...
Anyway, I'll try getting on them and going back to talk to a manager.
Thanks everyone.
We all get there sometimes. If you have sufficient graphics design experience, you should look into freelancing through guru.com. Design, isn't my thing but I use the site and I've noticed the category before. Barring that, there are always lazy bastards that need solid data entry. Not a bad way to pick up the odd $50-$100 payday.
Make amends with your folks as best as possible. I know it sucks and it hurts the pride, but its really your best play for long term stability.
Yeah and then after you get a job you cant hold it cuz you get laid off every 2 months. Try being a chef in this ecnonomy, if you aren't 10+ years experienced you get hired for a busy period then instantly laid off. I've lost 4 jobs this year alone and am going into serious debt because of the current job market and constantly being laid off of every place that does hire me. I also never get paid what im worth anymore either. Biggest waste of life ever was becomming a chef.
I never realized the importance of checking back in with a company periodically after dropping off a resume or an interview, but it's very important. I was always worried about being an annoyance, but there were times during my job search out of college where I would send a resume to the same company twice by accident, but then would get a call back with the second one, shit was bizarre. You don't want to be annoying, but calling in to check up with a potential employer saves you time (as in you don't waste time waiting to find out if they are going to hire you.) and lets them know you're interested and aggressive about the job.
DeeLock
Work Experience:
iD Tech Camp Instructor
Internal Drive Summer Camps, Berkeley, California
Summer 2009
• Taught graphic design, game creation and drawing classes focusing on computer programs to kids ranging from ages 7 to 17
• Designed weekly staff biography newsletter
• Participated in organizing camp activities and games
• Co-instructed several classes with other staff members
• Met strict weekly deadlines for projects
Publicist
Humboldt State University Resident Hall Association, Arcata, California
September 2008 – June 2009
• Editor in Chief of a monthly newsletter that is distributed all throughout the residence halls
• Designed flyers, posters and billboards to publicize school events and functions
• Attended weekly meetings and was available during office hours
Restaurant Host
McCovey’s Restaurant, Walnut Creek, California
Summer 2007
• Took reservations and ran the dining room
Graphic Designer
Chico State’s PRIDE, Chico, California
September 2007 – August 2008
• Designed t-shirts, flyers and the club logo
Delta Rugby Club, Antioch, California
Winter 2006
• Designed the team jerseys and the team logo
Education:
Academy of Art University, San Francisco, California
• Illustration and Graphic Design, currently attending
Humboldt State University, Arcata, California
• Two Semesters, August 2007 – June 2009
Relevant Skills:
• Advanced skill in Photoshop, Illustrator and Microsoft Office
• Beginner skill in Flash and Dreamweaver
• Typing Speed: 70 words per minute
• Used to working in stressful, fast paced environment and working in a team
Community Service:
• Has taken part in over 100 hours of community service
• Built low income housing with Habitat for Humanity
• Ran in the relay for life and spent time building booths to benefit the run
I'm sorry if this sounds mean but I'm kinda glad people are also having troubles because i was thinking that it was just me and that they didn't think I would be a good fit. I'm going out tomorrow with a fresh set of resumes and I'm going to go to every place I can think of.
Sure! That would help evil bastards set up an fake facebook page...
...and steal ur IDzorz
You should tailor your resume to every job you send it to. That resume has no focus. This is very difficult to do with limited experience.
/stealidentity
Good luck with my identity guys, I haven't had much success with it so far.
LOL. what are you 20? Life takes a damn bit of work, dude. I wouldn't get down or stressed over what seem like critical failures so far. (I know you were joking, but still)
If it makes you feel any better, I didn't get my shit together until I was 26. 3 years later, Im doing okay.