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Help Me Find Cheaper Energy

CognisseurCognisseur Registered User regular
edited September 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
Hey guys,

I'm still getting the hang of this whole apartment thing, so I've got yet another question. I currently use ConEd for electricity in NYC. It's 8.53c/kWh for supply and 9.17c/kWh for delivery, and the usual butt loads of extra fees for no reason.

My landlord mentioned that I can switch and have a different company 'supply' me the electricity but ConEd would keep delivering it... or something. The incentive is that he said it would end up lowering my electric bill a good deal and it would earn me air miles (secondary incentive).

So I tried to look it up online but it's confusing. :? I think I just found a bunch of 'green' electric companies that want to charge me more so I can feel more pretentious as I sip my mocha latte cruising around in my Prius, but I'm not sure that's appealing to me. I'm looking for cheap and reliable. I just want to always have electricity, and pay less for it. Supposedly that's doable-- how?

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  • DemerdarDemerdar Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Somehow magically lower the price of coal and you're there :^:

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  • Brodo FagginsBrodo Faggins Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I would say just unplug everything when you're not using it. You'd be surprised how much power TVs and game consoles consume, because they're never really "off". Also, peruse blogs like lifehacker for tips on how to save more.

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited September 2009
    Maybe ask your landlord if he has any recommendations?

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  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Points to 'off' Points to 'on'Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Just to know, about how much do you currently pay a month? Do you have A/C or electric heat?

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  • EverywhereasignEverywhereasign Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Although you can find electricity price freeze places, it's not always great bet.

    It works the same as freezing your natural gas price. Which I've been told works thusly, the company speculates on the price of electricity based on past stats, they offer a set price for a set period of time. It's up to you to determine if this is going to cost you more, or less than your regular electrical utility who adjusts the price based on demand.

    The thing is, these companies are basically purchasing your bill from your utility who is still your supplier. Because their entire company consists of an office that handles billing and a call center, theoretically, by purchasing customers from the utility at a discount, they can offer that discount to you because of their low overhead.

    However, they still need to make money. Most places require a contract for service, leave early and face a large bill. If their contract works with your plans, (ie you won't move for 2 years or whatever) then it can be great for everyone.

    Unfortunately I can't offer any names, I don't know of any specifically. But I will warn you to carefully read the contract, especially when it comes to length of service and fee's involved in early cancellation. (ie you get offered a job somewhere that rules, but your utility is asking for 200 dollars a month in cancellation fees)

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  • FiggyFiggy Fighter of the night man Champion of the sunRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    There are no discount energy suppliers. They lock you in for a specific number of years at a specific rate, and it's a crap shoot whether or not your locked in price is more or less than the "going rate."

    My advice is to monitor your consumption in order to save money.

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  • Iceman.USAFIceman.USAF Major East CoastRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Given that you seem to be new to the whole "life" thing, here's something I only vaguely knew before living on my own.

    Energy costs different amounts at different times. 2AM on a Tuesday is going to be cheaper than 8pm on a Saturday.

    You can ask your company to see their rates based on time. Some companies have a flat rate, others use the variable rate.

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  • Gilbert0Gilbert0 North of SeattleRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Figgy wrote: »
    There are no discount energy suppliers. They lock you in for a specific number of years at a specific rate, and it's a crap shoot whether or not your locked in price is more or less than the "going rate."

    My advice is to monitor your consumption in order to save money.

    That's how it works in Alberta (Canada). I pay 8 cents and said I would stay for 4 years. The variable monthly rate currently is 6.78 cents (a 3 year low) but during the winter months that will jump to 10-14 cents depending on the month. Seeing as winter is more like 6-8 months long here, it's cheaper to "lock in" a rate. Overall, I save money.

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  • FiggyFiggy Fighter of the night man Champion of the sunRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Keep in mind he is talking about electricity and not gas.

    Either way, a good budgeting tactic is to talk to your utility company about an equal billing plan. They will charge you a specific amount each and every month, no matter what you use. That way, it's easier to manage your energy/gas bills in the heavier months (whatever they may be).

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  • CognisseurCognisseur Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I'm actually quite lucky. Due to the crappy economy and a long search for an apartment I found a really great deal. Part of the really great deal is that gas and cold/hot water is covered. So is AC/Heating, except for the little fan that pushes the actual air into our apartment. I turn my computer/monitor off at night (but don't unplug them, so are they off or not?), and we have no TV. So all in all, our electric bill won't be high, and it won't change much at all in the winter. So it's not a big deal that I should be looking into lock in rates or whatnot; I was just thinking perhaps there was some little unknown trick to finding a cheap supply company and paying less.

    But as far as I understand from the replies listed, I should just be happy for all the utilities I get for free and turn stuff off at night and I should be fine. Right?

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited September 2009
    Cognisseur wrote: »
    But as far as I understand from the replies listed, I should just be happy for all the utilities I get for free and turn stuff off at night and I should be fine. Right?

    Simple solution: Yes.

    If you really want to look into it, you'll have to track your usage and find out if a bulk-rate plan would benefit you in the long run (usually they are a better deal in the winter/summer and you lose in the spring/fall).

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  • BEAST!BEAST! Adventurer Adventure!!!!!Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Cognisseur wrote: »
    I'm actually quite lucky. Due to the crappy economy and a long search for an apartment I found a really great deal. Part of the really great deal is that gas and cold/hot water is covered. So is AC/Heating, except for the little fan that pushes the actual air into our apartment. I turn my computer/monitor off at night (but don't unplug them, so are they off or not?), and we have no TV. So all in all, our electric bill won't be high, and it won't change much at all in the winter. So it's not a big deal that I should be looking into lock in rates or whatnot; I was just thinking perhaps there was some little unknown trick to finding a cheap supply company and paying less.

    But as far as I understand from the replies listed, I should just be happy for all the utilities I get for free and turn stuff off at night and I should be fine. Right?
    yes you should....oi i hate the electricity prices here, i feel like i'm getting so screwed....

    if you don't mind me asking, what area did you move to? and how long were you looking?

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  • CognisseurCognisseur Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    BEAST! wrote: »
    Cognisseur wrote: »
    I'm actually quite lucky. Due to the crappy economy and a long search for an apartment I found a really great deal. Part of the really great deal is that gas and cold/hot water is covered. So is AC/Heating, except for the little fan that pushes the actual air into our apartment. I turn my computer/monitor off at night (but don't unplug them, so are they off or not?), and we have no TV. So all in all, our electric bill won't be high, and it won't change much at all in the winter. So it's not a big deal that I should be looking into lock in rates or whatnot; I was just thinking perhaps there was some little unknown trick to finding a cheap supply company and paying less.

    But as far as I understand from the replies listed, I should just be happy for all the utilities I get for free and turn stuff off at night and I should be fine. Right?
    yes you should....oi i hate the electricity prices here, i feel like i'm getting so screwed....

    if you don't mind me asking, what area did you move to? and how long were you looking?

    I moved to Inwood which is really North Manhattan, to the point that when you tell people you live near 200th they go "I didn't know streets went that high!". We looked at like... 20 places or so, and this one was a no-brainer. Bigger than the others, better gut renovation/appearance than the others, and with more utilities paid for than all the others. I'm pretty sure it's worth more than we're paying but we looked at it and told the guy we were interested something like 4 hours after the first time he put it on Craigslist, so we got pretty lucky.

    The AC is paid for, the new fridge is EnergySaver, the stove is gas (free), and all the lights are on dimmers so we usually have them on 2/3 or so. So our electric usage is really low even though NYC energy prices aren't that great naturally.

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  • DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Cognisseur wrote: »

    I moved to Inwood which is really North Manhattan, to the point that when you tell people you live near 200th they go "I didn't know streets went that high!". We looked at like... 20 places or so, and this one was a no-brainer. Bigger than the others, better gut renovation/appearance than the others, and with more utilities paid for than all the others. I'm pretty sure it's worth more than we're paying but we looked at it and told the guy we were interested something like 4 hours after the first time he put it on Craigslist, so we got pretty lucky.

    I LOLed.
    On the flip side I just moved downtown and now have the burden of actually having to give people directions instead of just saying "number number street, between number and number"

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  • CognisseurCognisseur Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Deebaser wrote: »
    Cognisseur wrote: »

    I moved to Inwood which is really North Manhattan, to the point that when you tell people you live near 200th they go "I didn't know streets went that high!". We looked at like... 20 places or so, and this one was a no-brainer. Bigger than the others, better gut renovation/appearance than the others, and with more utilities paid for than all the others. I'm pretty sure it's worth more than we're paying but we looked at it and told the guy we were interested something like 4 hours after the first time he put it on Craigslist, so we got pretty lucky.

    I LOLed.
    On the flip side I just moved downtown and now have the burden of actually having to give people directions instead of just saying "number number street, between number and number"

    Really? You're a better person than me. I just redirect people who ask me here.

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