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HDTV (LCD) as a monitor.

Edgler VessEdgler Vess Registered User regular
edited September 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
Not really a question of "can it be done" im doing it right now on my 32 inch LCD Television as more of a "proof of concept" thing.

( I noticed when I was in the store today that almost all LCD TV's have the VGA out these days and went home and looked at mine and low and behold it does)...found the appropriate DVI to VGA adapter and Viloa! i have a 32 inch monitor.

Now I guess the question is...should I do anything about it, I can prolly afford to go get another 32 incher (or larger), but is there such a thing as too big on a PC? is there a size when resolution becomes such a problem that it makes games appear washed out or distorted? Or maybe even too large to be viewed comfortably from a computer desk? My desk is heavy enough where it would hold about any weight and cost, while always a factor, would not want to go over 800.

tl;dr...Does a big TV make a good computer monitor?

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  • corcorigancorcorigan Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    You can probably run a DVI-HDMI cable for slightly better image quality.

    I'd imagine the only problem is that tvs tend to have resolution that is a bit low for a monitor. If you sit a bit further back or something it'd be all fun and games.

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  • Nova_CNova_C I have the need The need for speedRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    corcorigan wrote: »
    You can probably run a DVI-HDMI cable for slightly better image quality.

    I'd imagine the only problem is that tvs tend to have resolution that is a bit low for a monitor. If you sit a bit further back or something it'd be all fun and games.

    I'd imagine a smaller TV (40" or less) at 1080p wouldn't suffer from any resolution problems at all. :)

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  • Edgler VessEdgler Vess Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Thanks for the responses you two, Yeah it seems that im getting some strange artifacting on this TV but it runs at a strange resolution 1366 x 768, (its a 720p) so if I buy one i guess I should go for a 1080p type TV, thanks for the inputs....if anyone else has any tips on very large displays (using a TV as a monitor that is), it would be much apprecicated, thanks!

    Edit: Also noticed that 1080p is 1920x1080 pixels do most games support that resolution these days or is it a "strange resolution" and will be hard to get support for?

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  • OgdillaOgdilla Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    1366x768 is indeed an odd resolution but 1920x1080 is fairly commonplace as far as I can tell. In my own experience, a 32" HDTV on my desk was too big. I scaled back to a 25" on a little riser which is about as big as I would want to go for a desktop monitor. I would strongly recommend dialing the brightness level back if you haven't already, as TVs tend to have a much higher max brightness than your standard PC monitor.

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  • Nova_CNova_C I have the need The need for speedRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Thanks for the responses you two, Yeah it seems that im getting some strange artifacting on this TV but it runs at a strange resolution 1366 x 768, (its a 720p) so if I buy one i guess I should go for a 1080p type TV, thanks for the inputs....if anyone else has any tips on very large displays (using a TV as a monitor that is), it would be much apprecicated, thanks!

    Edit: Also noticed that 1080p is 1920x1080 pixels do most games support that resolution these days or is it a "strange resolution" and will be hard to get support for?

    Widescreen resolutions are all pretty well supported now that monitors are pretty commonly widescreen as well.

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  • saltinesssaltiness Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I've found 24" to be the upper end of what's comfortable on a desk but that's just me. The big 30" apple displays with their insane resolution are great in the photography studio but that's when viewed from several feet away.

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  • Edgler VessEdgler Vess Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Wow, great responses guys! 32 or 36 is prolly as big as I will go.....one more thing...is there such a thing as a DVI connector on a TV? Havent seen any on best buy or walmart or anything like that...do they not exsist or are they just exorbandantly (sp?) expensive/rare.

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  • Edgler VessEdgler Vess Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Ogdilla wrote: »
    1366x768 is indeed an odd resolution but 1920x1080 is fairly commonplace as far as I can tell. In my own experience, a 32" HDTV on my desk was too big. I scaled back to a 25" on a little riser which is about as big as I would want to go for a desktop monitor. I would strongly recommend dialing the brightness level back if you haven't already, as TVs tend to have a much higher max brightness than your standard PC monitor.

    sorry for the double post, but yeah, Ive noticed this already on my "proof of concept" TV im going with right now, it is pretty bright...my eyes! my eyes!

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  • FallingmanFallingman Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I too am looking at doing this... My question is more:

    "Will a television be comfortable for Long-Term use?"

    Aside from the brightness, is there any reason not to use a TV in this way?

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  • Nova_CNova_C I have the need The need for speedRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Fallingman wrote: »
    I too am looking at doing this... My question is more:

    "Will a television be comfortable for Long-Term use?"

    Aside from the brightness, is there any reason not to use a TV in this way?

    They consume a lot more power. Other than that, I would think an LCD is an LCD.

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  • ScrubletScrublet Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    My gaming desktop is hooked up to a 50" plasma screen. It is awesome for games. I'm not going to go into a full discussion on underscan/overscan here, but suffice it to say you probably won't play at true 1080p. That is because if you actually set your resolution to 1920x1080, part of the image will be off the screen on all sides. Instead you set it to something slightly smaller (I'm at about 1860x1066 or something). This is phenomenal for games. If you're looking to be competitive at an FPS or something it won't be as good as being right up next to a computer monitor. But for casual stuff (especially MMOs) it's awesome and looks so good.

    For non-games, this setup sucks. I'm too far away from the TV, and it's kind of a pain. I hate it for that. I use my laptop for all non-game stuff.

    As far as resolutions go, almost all games in the past decade don't have hardcoded resolutions. They pull from your Windows-generated resolution list. So to create custom resolutions like what I did, you usually just set it up using your Nvidia/AMD drivers (they both have tools for this). The games will then post the resolution in their setup and you can select it. There are exceptions (Quake IV and Prey both require tweaking config files) but by and large this works great!

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  • Edgler VessEdgler Vess Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Still havent made a decision/purchase. Now i've got a strange vision...my desk is 4 feet long...imagine an LCD/plasma monitor the same length as my desk and mounted to the wall (my desk is totally flat, very plain), my wife would murder me but....

    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9034243&type=product&id=1218010846956

    1400 dollars for a monitor as big as my desk...tempting...and I could run cable through it and then buy a blu-ray drive for my new rig here..and......get carried away...

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Still havent made a decision/purchase. Now i've got a strange vision...my desk is 4 feet long...imagine an LCD/plasma monitor the same length as my desk and mounted to the wall (my desk is totally flat, very plain), my wife would murder me but....

    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9034243&type=product&id=1218010846956

    1400 dollars for a monitor as big as my desk...tempting...and I could run cable through it and then buy a blu-ray drive for my new rig here..and......get carried away...

    You want a 52" monitor at a distance of 2 feet or so? Yeah, you have fun with that...

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  • Edgler VessEdgler Vess Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Esh wrote: »
    Still havent made a decision/purchase. Now i've got a strange vision...my desk is 4 feet long...imagine an LCD/plasma monitor the same length as my desk and mounted to the wall (my desk is totally flat, very plain), my wife would murder me but....

    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9034243&type=product&id=1218010846956

    1400 dollars for a monitor as big as my desk...tempting...and I could run cable through it and then buy a blu-ray drive for my new rig here..and......get carried away...

    You want a 52" monitor at a distance of 2 feet or so? Yeah, you have fun with that...

    Yeah prolly wouldnt work, too much blur and a bit large, but sure would look good (just not be useful) and 1400 dollars would be a bit much...but I like the idea of on the wall to clear up this desk...distance from me to the wall is about 3 1/2 feet...

    so a 40 inches or 42 inch LCD maybe (boy them LED's are nice but way too expensive)....Gotta be careful though i still have to use this machine for school so I have to have text be readable. I suppose I could buy a 42incher and if it doesnt work out bring it back..or something

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Esh wrote: »
    Still havent made a decision/purchase. Now i've got a strange vision...my desk is 4 feet long...imagine an LCD/plasma monitor the same length as my desk and mounted to the wall (my desk is totally flat, very plain), my wife would murder me but....

    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9034243&type=product&id=1218010846956

    1400 dollars for a monitor as big as my desk...tempting...and I could run cable through it and then buy a blu-ray drive for my new rig here..and......get carried away...

    You want a 52" monitor at a distance of 2 feet or so? Yeah, you have fun with that...

    Yeah prolly wouldnt work, too much blur and a bit large, but sure would look good (just not be useful) and 1400 dollars would be a bit much...but I like the idea of on the wall to clear up this desk...distance from me to the wall is about 3 1/2 feet...

    so a 40 inches or 42 inch LCD maybe (boy them LED's are nice but way too expensive)....Gotta be careful though i still have to use this machine for school so I have to have text be readable. I suppose I could buy a 42incher and if it doesnt work out bring it back..or something

    That is still HUGE at that distance. 30" is about as big as you want to go for this. Seriously. Go any bigger and you'll be kicking yourself.

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  • DoronronDoronron Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I've been using a 42" 1080p LCD TV as my monitor for nearly a year. It's nice and large, but at high resolutions, small fonts are a real pain in the ass to discern. My solution was to move the couch to a viewing distance of about 5/6 feet and keep the desktop resolution at around 720p or less for basic computing and websurfing. Most gaming can be done in higher resolutions unless it's text heavy, then it gets the same treatment. Hulu and DVDs have never been a problem.

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