How do you play Blackjack?

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edited October 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
Okay so on the 8th of October my Uni is holding some charity casino night thing. Of course the object of the night is to give money to charity, but I do intend to actually hang onto my own cash. And since I've proven abysmally, disgustingly, shockingly shit at other casino games (namely roullette and poker) I've set my sights on the Blackjack table.

Trouble is the only thing I know about Blackjack is that you cannot exceed 21. So I need some schoolin' on the subject.

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  • ChanusChanus I've seen things... Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    http://www.blackjackinfo.com/blackjack-rules.php

    Simply: You get two cards to start and up to three more, one at a time. Your total can not exceed 21, but you want to get the highest total out of everyone at the table.

    Number cards are worth their number in points, Face cards are ten points, Aces can be one or eleven points, your choice.

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  • PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Pssh, just throw craps. It's all luck anyways, might as well try to look like a baller. :P

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  • GreasyKidsStuffGreasyKidsStuff MOMMM! ROAST BEEF WANTS TO KISS GIRLS ON THE TITTIES!Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Blackjack is so fun. My friend and I won $13.50 on 50 cents on a VLT at a bar. Two beers on fifty cents, hells yeah!

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  • TK-42-1TK-42-1 Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    my personal gamestyle is to let the dealer beat you. never draw to beat yourself. other than that you just need to get a feel for it. a lot of it depends on how the people around you are playing as well. nothing will piss people off more than a newbie hitting at 16 when the dealer is showing less than a 7

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  • RentRent I'm always right Fuckin' deal with itRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Learn how to count cards, it's shockingly easy to do

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  • CasualCasual Wiggle Wiggle Wiggle Flap Flap Flap Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    You start out with two cards the objective is to reach 21. Number cards are worth whatever number they are face cards (jack, queen, king) are worth 10 and aces are worth 1 or 11. You say hit me to get another card if the total takes you over 21 you're bust and you lose. Generally if my total is 18 or more I stay because the odds of going bust are very high, but that's just me.

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  • admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Rent wrote: »
    Learn how to count cards, it's shockingly easy to do

    But you'll still lose.

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  • Reservoir AngelReservoir Angel __BANNED USERS
    edited September 2009
    I see...so where does the whole business of people tapping the damn table come into it like they do in movies?

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  • BartholamueBartholamue Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Isn't counting cards illegal in most casinos?

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  • ErandusErandus Registered User
    edited September 2009
    Always split (divide your pair of cards into two seperate bets) aces and 8s. Two aces is a dumb hand, because it's 2 or 12, and two 8's is a dumb hand because it's 16. Split them into two hands, and you either have two hands starting with an ace (awesome) or two hands starting with an 8 (easy to catch a face card and make 18 which is at least not a terrible hand).

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  • SlagmireSlagmire Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    In a casino setting, you're playing against the dealer and not the others at the table. Typically, the dealer will have a "Soft 17" rule where the dealer must stand on 17 or above. Since this isn't a casino though, check
    with the dealer.

    Wiki's got some pretty good info on Blackjack though, with just a little strategy as well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackjack

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  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Points to 'off' Points to 'on'Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Isn't counting cards illegal in most casinos?
    If you use anything besides your brain to do it, yes. And if they figure out you're actually just that smart, they'll still ban you.

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  • ErandusErandus Registered User
    edited September 2009
    Isn't counting cards illegal in most casinos?

    Card counting without the assistance of an outside device is perfectly legal. There is no way they can monitor or police what you do in your own head. They will hate you and try to fuck with you or just kick you out, though.

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  • EncEnc A Fool with Compassion The Land of Flowers (and Dragons)Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Secret Blackjack technique:
    Don't tell the others! Wiki-Blackjack! :D

    Key to gambling is bring a set amount, and leave with that amount if possible. If you bring $10, keep $10 in chips on the side if you win more than that and try not to bet it. If you end up with $30, place $15 aside, soon and so forth.

    That way, by the end, you walk away with what your brought, or, at worst, just down $10 bucks. Scale it as appropriate for your game.

    Edit: Slagmire beat me to it. :(

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  • ErandusErandus Registered User
    edited September 2009
    Yeah, bring as much money as you are comfortable losing, and go into the night assuming you will lose it all. Try not to, but if you should happen to, do not succumb to the temptation to get more money and try to win your original money back.

    I would say bring a wad of cash that you would be just as happy setting on fire, and leave any debit cards or check books at home.

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  • BuddiesBuddies Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I can give a little advice on Roulette. To be able to make easy money on Roulette you need to have about $1000 bucks to make 5 dollars a play, and there can't be a max bet lower than $800(these aren't necessary but you are almost guaranteed to make money if these conditions are met).

    Instead of playing each spin, you play over a series of spins. You can either play the Outside bets(1-18, Even, Red, Black, Odd, 19-36) or picking out a pie slice of the wheel. I play the Outside Bets as thats easier to remember whats going on when your getting tipsy, and will be easier to write an example out.

    The outside bets statistically will hit sometime within 7 spins. What you do is just pick a bet, and continue to bet on it. When you lose your next bet will be double what your previous was. Here is the example

    Choice Bet amount Result Winnings Total Winnings
    Red $5 Black $-5 $-5
    Red $10 Black $-10 $-15
    Red $20 Black $-20 $-35
    Red $40 Green $-40 $-75
    Red $80 Black $-80 $-155
    Red $160 Red $160 $5

    Woo, you won $5 after betting $315. It gets scary quickly as you see. I have gotten up to that scary 160 bet a couple time, and the $320 bet once. I have also seen 10 spins in a row without a hit(making me lose a shit ton of money cause I didn't have enough to cover that many spins). Basicly we increase your win% chance from 17/38 to something much much better.

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  • CasualCasual Wiggle Wiggle Wiggle Flap Flap Flap Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Isn't counting cards illegal in most casinos?

    It's not illegal unless you use a machine of some kind, they can't stop you doing math in your head. But if they think you're doing it you can get kicked out of casinos.

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  • RUNN1NGMANRUNN1NGMAN Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    TK-42-1 wrote: »
    my personal gamestyle is to let the dealer beat you. never draw to beat yourself. other than that you just need to get a feel for it. a lot of it depends on how the people around you are playing as well. nothing will piss people off more than a newbie hitting at 16 when the dealer is showing less than a 7

    You realize that from a statistical standpoint, what other people at the table are doing is pretty much irrelevant to your success, right? People can't "steal" your card. Random cards are random. Getting annoyed at how other people are playing at your table, unless they are needlessly wasting time, is the sign of an amateur. In the same vein, it is a huge mistake to alter how your play your hand based on cards everyone else is pulling.

    Doing well at blackjack is 100% dependent on you knowing what to do in every situation. For any given hand there is a correct and an incorrect play. It's not like roulette or craps where you have multiple options for bets that all give you roughly the same odds of winning. Knowing the right plays to make in blackjack is the difference between having close to (but not quite) even odds and quickly losing your money. There's not really any way to do it besides memorize the correct plays to make for each situation. It's not terribly complicated and follows a certain amount of logic once you understand what you're doing.

    The number one tip I could give to a new blackjack player is to learn when a "surrender" is appropriate, find out what casinos allow surrenders, and avoid the ones that don't at all costs. A surrender is when you give half your bet to the dealer and sit out the rest of the hand. Inexperienced players don't like this because you're loosing a chance to win. But consider this situation. You have 16. The dealer is showing a 10. It is highly likely that you will lose this hand whether you stand or hit. It's basically the worst hand you can have. Would you rather lose 100% of your bet, almost 100% of the time, or lose 50% of your bet 100% of the time? Over the long term, the surrender can be one of the easiest ways to minimize your losses.

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  • ErandusErandus Registered User
    edited September 2009
    RUNN1NGMAN wrote: »
    TK-42-1 wrote: »
    my personal gamestyle is to let the dealer beat you. never draw to beat yourself. other than that you just need to get a feel for it. a lot of it depends on how the people around you are playing as well. nothing will piss people off more than a newbie hitting at 16 when the dealer is showing less than a 7

    You realize that from a statistical standpoint, what other people at the table are doing is pretty much irrelevant to your success, right? People can't "steal" your card. Random cards are random.

    If they were pulling cards from a truly random pool, that would be the case, but the order of the cards are set after the shuffle. If the next card in the shoe is a 10, and the dingleberry with 16 hits it, and you had 11, you just got screwed by someone else's bad play.

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  • RUNN1NGMANRUNN1NGMAN Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I see...so where does the whole business of people tapping the damn table come into it like they do in movies?

    In a real casino, you're required to use hand signals for your play because the cameras don't pick up audio, and they want to avoid disagreements. Pointing to or tapping the table means "Hit me," holding your hand flat means "stand," holding two fingers up or two index fingers together then pulling apart, plus putting an equal bet next to your original bet means "split" and putting an equal or lower bet directly behind your original bet and making the hit sign means "double down." If you want to surrender, just say "surrender" and don't make any hand signal that might be misinterpreted.

    Also, unless you are playing single deck blackjack, never ever touch your cards. And never touch your bet once you put it on the table.

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  • steamypilesteamypile Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Erandus wrote: »
    RUNN1NGMAN wrote: »
    TK-42-1 wrote: »
    my personal gamestyle is to let the dealer beat you. never draw to beat yourself. other than that you just need to get a feel for it. a lot of it depends on how the people around you are playing as well. nothing will piss people off more than a newbie hitting at 16 when the dealer is showing less than a 7

    You realize that from a statistical standpoint, what other people at the table are doing is pretty much irrelevant to your success, right? People can't "steal" your card. Random cards are random.

    If they were pulling cards from a truly random pool, that would be the case, but the order of the cards are set after the shuffle. If the next card in the shoe is a 10, and the dingleberry with 16 hits it, and you had 11, you just got screwed by someone else's bad play.


    And if they have 14 and dealer is showing a 5 and they hit and pull a 6 and the dealer flips 15 and pulls a 10, are you complaining then?

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  • RUNN1NGMANRUNN1NGMAN Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Erandus wrote: »
    RUNN1NGMAN wrote: »
    TK-42-1 wrote: »
    my personal gamestyle is to let the dealer beat you. never draw to beat yourself. other than that you just need to get a feel for it. a lot of it depends on how the people around you are playing as well. nothing will piss people off more than a newbie hitting at 16 when the dealer is showing less than a 7

    You realize that from a statistical standpoint, what other people at the table are doing is pretty much irrelevant to your success, right? People can't "steal" your card. Random cards are random.

    If they were pulling cards from a truly random pool, that would be the case, but the order of the cards are set after the shuffle. If the next card in the shoe is a 10, and the dingleberry with 16 hits it, and you had 11, you just got screwed by someone else's bad play.

    Or a dingleberry hits when he shouldn't, pulls a card that would have bust you, and you get a 21. It works either way, and unless you have some sort of prescience as to what order the cards are in there's no way to know if someone's bad play will hurt or help you until after the fact.

    edit: what steamy said :)

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  • TK-42-1TK-42-1 Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Erandus wrote: »
    RUNN1NGMAN wrote: »
    TK-42-1 wrote: »
    my personal gamestyle is to let the dealer beat you. never draw to beat yourself. other than that you just need to get a feel for it. a lot of it depends on how the people around you are playing as well. nothing will piss people off more than a newbie hitting at 16 when the dealer is showing less than a 7

    You realize that from a statistical standpoint, what other people at the table are doing is pretty much irrelevant to your success, right? People can't "steal" your card. Random cards are random.

    If they were pulling cards from a truly random pool, that would be the case, but the order of the cards are set after the shuffle. If the next card in the shoe is a 10, and the dingleberry with 16 hits it, and you had 11, you just got screwed by someone else's bad play.

    yep. and i know this is anecdotal, but from playing every night for 4+ hours for damn near a week I noticed I won a significant amount of money when the players at the table were competent and played correctly, but when they were idiots about playing everyone tended to lose.

    Resevoir: The tapping the table is the nonverbal sign for 'Hit me' or that you want another card. Waving your hand horizontally over your hand is the signal for staying with the cards you have at that point.

    Additional Rules I havent seen mentioned: Doubledown (double your bet and place it vertically in line with your standing bet) means that you are betting double on the chance that your next card will place you in a winning position. Many people doubledown when they have 11 to start off since the odds of landing a 8-9-10-face are pretty high and you will have 21. Doing it on anything but 11 and maybe 10 if youre adventerous is foolish however

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  • BackstopBackstop Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Print out that table from the wiki article and just follow it. Basically it assumes the dealer's face-down card is a ten, because more than likely it is (~40% of all the cards are worth ten). So if you see the dealer has 6, assume he's got 16. Assume the next card out will be a ten as well. You can see it's kind of bad to take another card if you have 18 already. The dealer is usually under a house rule to draw until he's got 17 or more.

    People tapping the table means "hit me" (deal another card).
    People holding their hand flat over the table (palm-down) means "stand" (wait for the dealer's cards to see if you won).

    Other than that, use your words. :mrgreen:

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  • ErandusErandus Registered User
    edited September 2009
    steamypile wrote: »
    Erandus wrote: »
    RUNN1NGMAN wrote: »
    TK-42-1 wrote: »
    my personal gamestyle is to let the dealer beat you. never draw to beat yourself. other than that you just need to get a feel for it. a lot of it depends on how the people around you are playing as well. nothing will piss people off more than a newbie hitting at 16 when the dealer is showing less than a 7

    You realize that from a statistical standpoint, what other people at the table are doing is pretty much irrelevant to your success, right? People can't "steal" your card. Random cards are random.

    If they were pulling cards from a truly random pool, that would be the case, but the order of the cards are set after the shuffle. If the next card in the shoe is a 10, and the dingleberry with 16 hits it, and you had 11, you just got screwed by someone else's bad play.


    And if they have 14 and dealer is showing a 5 and they hit and pull a 6 and the dealer flips 15 and pulls a 10, are you complaining then?

    Of course it can work both ways, but people can "steal" your card and they can inadvertently save you.

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  • RUNN1NGMANRUNN1NGMAN Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Erandus wrote: »
    steamypile wrote: »
    Erandus wrote: »
    RUNN1NGMAN wrote: »
    TK-42-1 wrote: »
    my personal gamestyle is to let the dealer beat you. never draw to beat yourself. other than that you just need to get a feel for it. a lot of it depends on how the people around you are playing as well. nothing will piss people off more than a newbie hitting at 16 when the dealer is showing less than a 7

    You realize that from a statistical standpoint, what other people at the table are doing is pretty much irrelevant to your success, right? People can't "steal" your card. Random cards are random.

    If they were pulling cards from a truly random pool, that would be the case, but the order of the cards are set after the shuffle. If the next card in the shoe is a 10, and the dingleberry with 16 hits it, and you had 11, you just got screwed by someone else's bad play.


    And if they have 14 and dealer is showing a 5 and they hit and pull a 6 and the dealer flips 15 and pulls a 10, are you complaining then?

    Of course it can work both ways, but people can "steal" your card and they can inadvertently save you.

    That assumes that you have knowledge of the predetermined order of the cards. For a 5 or 6 deck shoe or an autoshuffler, the next card is essentially random no matter what the previous card was. While it's true that there is a finite number of cards, and therefore previous results are a prediction if future results, the size of the shoe makes the previous card's effect on the next card's value virtually negligible.

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  • steamypilesteamypile Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Regardless, people can be very superstitious in games of chance, and confirmation bias usually confirms their own instincts in their mind, so if you're worried about things like that, sit at the end seat (the farthest left) yourself to "control" your own destiny, so to speak.

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  • ErandusErandus Registered User
    edited September 2009
    Since there is relatively as much of a chance of the previous players play helping you as hurting you, the math of the situation isn't worth worrying about either way, really. You make the play that is best for you to make given the cards that are up, regardless of what the players before you do. My point was that since the order of the cards are set, another player "can" screw you by making a bad play and taking a card that would have been advantageous for you at that particular moment, forcing you to accept a less helpful, or hurtful card. Of course, next hand they may save your bacon. Its really not worth worrying about either way, you just play the basic strategy regardless.

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  • SixSix Ask me about my butthole Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    RUNN1NGMAN wrote: »
    Erandus wrote: »
    steamypile wrote: »
    Erandus wrote: »
    RUNN1NGMAN wrote: »
    TK-42-1 wrote: »
    my personal gamestyle is to let the dealer beat you. never draw to beat yourself. other than that you just need to get a feel for it. a lot of it depends on how the people around you are playing as well. nothing will piss people off more than a newbie hitting at 16 when the dealer is showing less than a 7

    You realize that from a statistical standpoint, what other people at the table are doing is pretty much irrelevant to your success, right? People can't "steal" your card. Random cards are random.

    If they were pulling cards from a truly random pool, that would be the case, but the order of the cards are set after the shuffle. If the next card in the shoe is a 10, and the dingleberry with 16 hits it, and you had 11, you just got screwed by someone else's bad play.


    And if they have 14 and dealer is showing a 5 and they hit and pull a 6 and the dealer flips 15 and pulls a 10, are you complaining then?

    Of course it can work both ways, but people can "steal" your card and they can inadvertently save you.

    That assumes that you have knowledge of the predetermined order of the cards. For a 5 or 6 deck shoe or an autoshuffler, the next card is essentially random no matter what the previous card was. While it's true that there is a finite number of cards, and therefore previous results are a prediction if future results, the size of the shoe makes the previous card's effect on the next card's value virtually negligible.

    While this is true, pissing people off at the table is much less fun than having a table where everyone's not pissed at you.

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  • ErandusErandus Registered User
    edited September 2009
    Six wrote: »
    While this is true, pissing people off at the table is much less fun than having a table where everyone's not pissed at you.

    In that same train of thought, I don't believe there's any rules against asking other players for advice, too.

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  • PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Erandus wrote: »
    Six wrote: »
    While this is true, pissing people off at the table is much less fun than having a table where everyone's not pissed at you.

    In that same train of thought, I don't believe there's any rules against asking other players for advice, too.

    There's also no rule against me giving you shitty advice and making you bust or stand on a shitty hand in order to line my own pockets either.

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  • DaenrisDaenris Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Erandus wrote: »
    Six wrote: »
    While this is true, pissing people off at the table is much less fun than having a table where everyone's not pissed at you.

    In that same train of thought, I don't believe there's any rules against asking other players for advice, too.

    There's also no rule against me giving you shitty advice and making you bust or stand on a shitty hand in order to line my own pockets either.

    Except as already mentioned, in casino blackjack you're not playing against each other, you each play against the dealer. So you, as another player, giving me bad advice does nothing to help line your pockets.

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  • EncEnc A Fool with Compassion The Land of Flowers (and Dragons)Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Erandus wrote: »
    Six wrote: »
    While this is true, pissing people off at the table is much less fun than having a table where everyone's not pissed at you.

    In that same train of thought, I don't believe there's any rules against asking other players for advice, too.

    There's also no rule against me giving you shitty advice and making you bust or stand on a shitty hand in order to line my own pockets either.

    There is, however, a rule about giving long, inspirational speeches, as Christ Tucker would be happy to tell you.

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  • SixSix Ask me about my butthole Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Erandus wrote: »
    Six wrote: »
    While this is true, pissing people off at the table is much less fun than having a table where everyone's not pissed at you.

    In that same train of thought, I don't believe there's any rules against asking other players for advice, too.

    There's also no rule against me giving you shitty advice and making you bust or stand on a shitty hand in order to line my own pockets either.

    You don't win money from other players, you win money from the dealer.

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  • ErandusErandus Registered User
    edited September 2009
    Six wrote: »
    Erandus wrote: »
    Six wrote: »
    While this is true, pissing people off at the table is much less fun than having a table where everyone's not pissed at you.

    In that same train of thought, I don't believe there's any rules against asking other players for advice, too.

    There's also no rule against me giving you shitty advice and making you bust or stand on a shitty hand in order to line my own pockets either.

    You don't win money from other players, you win money from the dealer.

    Plus this would just make you a titanic prick.

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  • JebusUDJebusUD Adventure! Candy IslandRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Buddies wrote: »
    I can give a little advice on Roulette. To be able to make easy money on Roulette you need to have about $1000 bucks to make 5 dollars a play, and there can't be a max bet lower than $800(these aren't necessary but you are almost guaranteed to make money if these conditions are met).

    Instead of playing each spin, you play over a series of spins. You can either play the Outside bets(1-18, Even, Red, Black, Odd, 19-36) or picking out a pie slice of the wheel. I play the Outside Bets as thats easier to remember whats going on when your getting tipsy, and will be easier to write an example out.

    The outside bets statistically will hit sometime within 7 spins. What you do is just pick a bet, and continue to bet on it. When you lose your next bet will be double what your previous was. Here is the example

    Choice Bet amount Result Winnings Total Winnings
    Red $5 Black $-5 $-5
    Red $10 Black $-10 $-15
    Red $20 Black $-20 $-35
    Red $40 Green $-40 $-75
    Red $80 Black $-80 $-155
    Red $160 Red $160 $5

    Woo, you won $5 after betting $315. It gets scary quickly as you see. I have gotten up to that scary 160 bet a couple time, and the $320 bet once. I have also seen 10 spins in a row without a hit(making me lose a shit ton of money cause I didn't have enough to cover that many spins). Basicly we increase your win% chance from 17/38 to something much much better.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler's_fallacy

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  • PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Erandus wrote: »
    Six wrote: »
    Erandus wrote: »
    Six wrote: »
    While this is true, pissing people off at the table is much less fun than having a table where everyone's not pissed at you.

    In that same train of thought, I don't believe there's any rules against asking other players for advice, too.

    There's also no rule against me giving you shitty advice and making you bust or stand on a shitty hand in order to line my own pockets either.

    You don't win money from other players, you win money from the dealer.

    Plus this would just make you a titanic prick.

    Yes ... and I'm the kind of person who thinks that THAT CARD IS MINE HOW DARE YOU STEAL IT - ie a titanic prick - then I will give you bad advice to make you leave the table, ergo "increasing my chances" to line my pockets.

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  • admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    JebusUD wrote: »
    Buddies wrote: »
    I can give a little advice on Roulette. To be able to make easy money on Roulette you need to have about $1000 bucks to make 5 dollars a play, and there can't be a max bet lower than $800(these aren't necessary but you are almost guaranteed to make money if these conditions are met).

    Instead of playing each spin, you play over a series of spins. You can either play the Outside bets(1-18, Even, Red, Black, Odd, 19-36) or picking out a pie slice of the wheel. I play the Outside Bets as thats easier to remember whats going on when your getting tipsy, and will be easier to write an example out.

    The outside bets statistically will hit sometime within 7 spins. What you do is just pick a bet, and continue to bet on it. When you lose your next bet will be double what your previous was. Here is the example

    Choice Bet amount Result Winnings Total Winnings
    Red $5 Black $-5 $-5
    Red $10 Black $-10 $-15
    Red $20 Black $-20 $-35
    Red $40 Green $-40 $-75
    Red $80 Black $-80 $-155
    Red $160 Red $160 $5

    Woo, you won $5 after betting $315. It gets scary quickly as you see. I have gotten up to that scary 160 bet a couple time, and the $320 bet once. I have also seen 10 spins in a row without a hit(making me lose a shit ton of money cause I didn't have enough to cover that many spins). Basicly we increase your win% chance from 17/38 to something much much better.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler's_fallacy

    First, IANAS.

    But I'm pretty sure that's not exactly relevant. I mean, yeah, you shouldn't get to -$315 and go "I'm definitely gonna win this time" because your odds of winning at that moment are still 17/38. But your overall odds of winning $5 over the course of seven spins are pretty damn good.

    'course, an hour of doing that will be rendered null-and-void by one loss at $320. You're still better off getting a damn job.

    admanb on
  • JebusUDJebusUD Adventure! Candy IslandRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    admanb wrote: »
    JebusUD wrote: »
    Buddies wrote: »
    I can give a little advice on Roulette. To be able to make easy money on Roulette you need to have about $1000 bucks to make 5 dollars a play, and there can't be a max bet lower than $800(these aren't necessary but you are almost guaranteed to make money if these conditions are met).

    Instead of playing each spin, you play over a series of spins. You can either play the Outside bets(1-18, Even, Red, Black, Odd, 19-36) or picking out a pie slice of the wheel. I play the Outside Bets as thats easier to remember whats going on when your getting tipsy, and will be easier to write an example out.

    The outside bets statistically will hit sometime within 7 spins. What you do is just pick a bet, and continue to bet on it. When you lose your next bet will be double what your previous was. Here is the example

    Choice Bet amount Result Winnings Total Winnings
    Red $5 Black $-5 $-5
    Red $10 Black $-10 $-15
    Red $20 Black $-20 $-35
    Red $40 Green $-40 $-75
    Red $80 Black $-80 $-155
    Red $160 Red $160 $5

    Woo, you won $5 after betting $315. It gets scary quickly as you see. I have gotten up to that scary 160 bet a couple time, and the $320 bet once. I have also seen 10 spins in a row without a hit(making me lose a shit ton of money cause I didn't have enough to cover that many spins). Basicly we increase your win% chance from 17/38 to something much much better.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler's_fallacy

    First, IANAS.

    But I'm pretty sure that's not exactly relevant. I mean, yeah, you shouldn't get to -$315 and go "I'm definitely gonna win this time" because your odds of winning at that moment are still 17/38. But your overall odds of winning $5 over the course of seven spins are pretty damn good.

    'course, an hour of doing that will be rendered null-and-void by one loss at $320. You're still better off getting a damn job.

    Gambling betting systems rely on that fallacy. You are just as well off betting the same thing over and over. I suppose increasing the bet every time saves you some time in the casino, if that is your goal. You would be just as well off betting it all on one spin.

    JebusUD on
    And I won, so you lose,
    Guess it always comes down to.
  • admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
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