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Recommend me a paintball gun!

SikarianSikarian Registered User regular
edited October 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
I need some recommendations for a new paintball gun. I haven't played since 2000 when I was in middle school and am starting up again. I'd like to dive in with a fairly decent gun, but I'm not sure what's good any more.

Back in my day the autocockers and mini-mags were king for a decent budget, but I can't find the autococker as it was any more, and reviews of current WGP products don't shine well for speedball play. Price range? I guess maybe up to $600-650, but no real limit. (As in I'd consider expensive ones, but would prefer a cheaper 300-600$ one, I just don't need anything crazy expensive, not doing tournament play).

Halp!

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  • OrestesOrestes Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    What kind of paintballing where you looking to do?

    Speedball or Bushball?

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  • SikarianSikarian Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    The majority of my play will be speedball style. Now and then I have friends who like to do woodball, but I can put up with a speedball-esque gun in that environment.

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  • Toxin01Toxin01 Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Whats your budget, not trying to sound like a douche but i play national level tournaments, and I can more than likely help you out.

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  • SikarianSikarian Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Toxin01 wrote: »
    Whats your budget, not trying to sound like a douche but i play national level tournaments, and I can more than likely help you out.


    I said in the original post :P I'm really not limited by budget, mostly just don't want anything well over what I actually need. I'm not going to be competing in any tournaments, at least not in the foreseeable future, mostly just speedball with some friends at local fields.

    Budget I could go up to 500-600, but would consider more expensive if a good choice is out there. Just as I said, don't want to spend a ton on more gun than I need.

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  • Toxin01Toxin01 Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Sikarian wrote: »
    Toxin01 wrote: »
    Whats your budget, not trying to sound like a douche but i play national level tournaments, and I can more than likely help you out.


    I said in the original post :P I'm really not limited by budget, mostly just don't want anything well over what I actually need. I'm not going to be competing in any tournaments, at least not in the foreseeable future, mostly just speedball with some friends at local fields.

    Budget I could go up to 500-600, but would consider more expensive if a good choice is out there. Just as I said, don't want to spend a ton on more gun than I need.

    Well, at the Brand new price, I'd suggest the Proto Matrix Rail, or an NXT Shocker, the NXT shocker is kind of maintenance heavy however. Keep in mind that with a higher end gun, you need a compressed air tank, as it cant run on Co2, and you also need a hopper that is electrically fed. If you've got all of that however, and are willing to clean your gun after each day you play, I'd go with the NXT Shocker.

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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    To throw my hat in as well, is $500-600 is what you want to throw into your gun or what you want to throw into your gear total? As Toxin pointed out there's really no point in having a nice gun if you are attaching a Co2 tank and a gravity fed hopper on to it. And don't under estimate the utility of other pieces of gear, having a mask that didn't fog up all the time did wonders for my game for example.

    I'm a bit behind the times on paintball guns (budgets been tight and I'm focusing on school at the moment, unfortunately), but I just thought I'd throw that bit of advice out.

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  • SikarianSikarian Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    The 500-600$ is on a gun. I'm going to get a non-fogging mask, electric feed hopper, probably a remote tank kit if I can, etc. Kinda trying to jump back in head first and get back up to speed with where I used to be.

    Any good places online to purchase markers? A lot of places sell, hard to see whos trustworthy or not.

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  • Toxin01Toxin01 Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    www.actionvillage.com , but I'd suggest buying form your local proshop if possible, just to help out a small buisness owner and the fact that they will prob work on it for you if you get it from there.

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  • SikarianSikarian Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Toxin01 wrote: »
    www.actionvillage.com , but I'd suggest buying form your local proshop if possible, just to help out a small buisness owner and the fact that they will prob work on it for you if you get it from there.

    I've been in all of the local shops at fields, all they ever carry is Tippman.

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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Sikarian wrote: »
    The 500-600$ is on a gun. I'm going to get a non-fogging mask, electric feed hopper, probably a remote tank kit if I can, etc. Kinda trying to jump back in head first and get back up to speed with where I used to be.

    Any good places online to purchase markers? A lot of places sell, hard to see whos trustworthy or not.

    I wouldn't recommend a remote tank, especially if you are playing speedball. Likewise I wouldn't recommend a drop forward.

    Compressed air tanks (carbon fiber ones at least) are quite light and you want them where they are on your gun so you can use the tank like a stock to stabilize the gun. This allows your trigger hand to not actually need to support the weight of the gun at all. The remote tank puts your tank in an awkward spot, cuts down on the amount of paint you can comfortably carry, adds one extra thing that can get snagged on something and makes hard to switch your gun into your non-dominant hand for shooting out of the other side of bunkers.

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  • AlphadoucheAlphadouche __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2009
    Sikarian wrote: »
    The majority of my play will be speedball style. Now and then I have friends who like to do woodball, but I can put up with a speedball-esque gun in that environment.

    No you can't. Speedball has a certain faggotry to it that just doesn't work well in the woods.

    The truest way to play paintball has always been in the woods, where the sport was birthed by weekend warrior lumberjacks who turned their tree-marking guns on each other for some fun times.

    A typical speedball gun is going to be loaded with all sorts of eletronic gizmos and doohickeys that are supposed to give you some kind of advantage when your shooting ropes down the lanes. In reality, this translates to: More shit to break, and more balls wasted; which basically means you're just throwing money away, and every shot you fire is just another cash register ringing in a new sale.

    Get a Tippman X7 with a response trigger and a cyclone feed, a compressed air tank and a good barrel and you are good to go. The X7 has a low profile hopper and with the cyclone feed it will feed balls fast enough using air without requiring you to go out and get more batteries. The response trigger also uses air to help you achieve a fully automatic firing mode, completely without batteries. You don't want to be screwed over on the field or before a game by finding out your batteries are low, trust me. The X7 can be dropped, hit and run over by a pickup truck without suffering any damage, as it is made from military grade materials. Most speedball guns can't hold up to that.

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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Wow.

    This is an H/A thread to help someone find a marker for the type of paintball they want to play. Not a soap box to spew your narrow perspective of the game.

    The gun you just described would be sub-par in a speedball environment, and there is really nothing keeping someone from using a marker designed for speedball for woodsball or vice-versa, it's just generally sub-optimal.

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  • AlphadoucheAlphadouche __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2009
    For the price range he has given the Tippmans are the best, period. Any speedball guns going that cheap are either used or have sacrificed quality in some form for lower prices.

    Really though if he is already thinking about costs he should just get the gun that will cost him the least to maintain and support anyway, which is usually the Tippmans. Paintball is not a poor man's sport by any means.

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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    For the price range he has given the Tippmans are the best, period. Any speedball guns going that cheap are either used or have sacrificed quality in some form for lower prices.

    Really though if he is already thinking about costs he should just get the gun that will cost him the least to maintain and support anyway, which is usually the Tippmans. Paintball is not a poor man's sport by any means.

    Tippmann makes solid woodsball markers but no, their guns are not good for speedball. They have off centered hoppers, for one, which makes shooting left handed out of a bunker far more difficult than it needs to be, and leaves you hopper hanging far out for easy shots when shooting out of the right side of a bunker.

    Tippmann guns are good for what they are trying to be, and what they are trying to be is emphatically not speedball markers.

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  • Toxin01Toxin01 Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    For the price range he has given the Tippmans are the best, period. Any speedball guns going that cheap are either used or have sacrificed quality in some form for lower prices.

    Really though if he is already thinking about costs he should just get the gun that will cost him the least to maintain and support anyway, which is usually the Tippmans. Paintball is not a poor man's sport by any means.

    You can get both guns I listed brand new in that price range, and they work flawlessly if you know how to take care of one, are both light, efficent, and are easy to hold and use. (One button.)


    I don't mean to sound like a dick but I really don't think you fully understand what your saying.

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  • SikarianSikarian Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    http://www.zephyrpaintball.com/product/PB-PROT-10PMRCLEAR/2010_Proto_PMR_Paintball_Gun__Clear_Dust.html

    Found this one I'm liking. It seems about on par with the NXT Shocker that I could find, and I dig the style. Just need a drop-forward for it, although I could get that later and just play with it shoulder-style for a while.

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  • Toxin01Toxin01 Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Sikarian wrote: »
    http://www.zephyrpaintball.com/product/PB-PROT-10PMRCLEAR/2010_Proto_PMR_Paintball_Gun__Clear_Dust.html

    Found this one I'm liking. It seems about on par with the NXT Shocker that I could find, and I dig the style. Just need a drop-forward for it, although I could get that later and just play with it shoulder-style for a while.

    The tank on your shoulder is infinintly more comfortable and easier to shoot with than a drop-forward.

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  • AlphadoucheAlphadouche __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2009
    Man don't get a drop forward

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  • SikarianSikarian Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Toxin01 wrote: »
    Sikarian wrote: »
    http://www.zephyrpaintball.com/product/PB-PROT-10PMRCLEAR/2010_Proto_PMR_Paintball_Gun__Clear_Dust.html

    Found this one I'm liking. It seems about on par with the NXT Shocker that I could find, and I dig the style. Just need a drop-forward for it, although I could get that later and just play with it shoulder-style for a while.

    The tank on your shoulder is infinintly more comfortable and easier to shoot with than a drop-forward.

    Yeah, I'm used to tank on the shoulder from my old Spyder 2k I used to romp with. I'll probably keep it like that after a few days of playing with it. I'm wondering if the cascade system we have at my fire station to fill up our MSA air bottles would fit over a HPA tank...save me running to a field to fill up >:D

    Also, Alphadouche. If you don't like speedball, that's your prerogative. No one asked you to come in here and give your advice on what kind of playstyle you think is best. And as for the cost to maintain and play with a higher end gun...not all of us have money issues. Maybe you can ask your parents for a little bit more during your allowance and play with the big dogs?

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  • KendeathwalkerKendeathwalker Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Sikarian wrote: »

    Also, Alphadouche. I Maybe you can ask your parents for a little bit more during your allowance and play with the big dogs?

    whats next...?Are you going to tell him how much bigger your dick is than his ?

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