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Atlas Shrugged: Why is this so bad?
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He also thinks that the people who financed its construction and his research have no stake in it, as they didn't help him at all.
Which part specifically? Galt's speech is incredibly long..
Well if someone rips off Galt they'll either be selling for a lower price in which case fuck Galt that's business for you, they'll have to sell above Galt and then fuck them because that's business for you, or Galt will be rich enough to hire a bunch of guys with guns to shoot up whoever's ripping him off because fuck the police, goddamn government, right?
The whole thing is about Galt wanting sole rights to the machine and all those evil poor people trying to take it away. Without any sort of proprietary law, there is nothing stopping everybody and their uncle building their own.
It's just a perpetual motion machine. It's not worth reading the thing.
He just refused to share the methods of it's construction.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
huh
It was never stated that it should be held out to the highest bidder. But don't you think, that if you invented something of value, that you should be duly compensated for you time and energy and investment for such a thing? Should someone just willingly give away something for which they extended themselves for?
He was getting compensated, he just didn't like the idea of anyone else ever getting any slice of his pie.
the parts that everyone above me is referencing.
Since I cannot reasonably formulate, at this moment, an argument that denies the validity of patents and copyright, yet still holds you have the right to the fruits of your creative output.
Didn't he tell the venture capitalists who compensated him for his work to go fuck themselves?
You have infinite free energy, you can get whatever you want, as can everybody else. That's why economics is the study of how limited resources are distributed.
― Marcus Aurelius
Path of Exile: themightypuck
But they weren't. At all.
They wanted to pay him.
He claimed that everyone was out to rob him blind because he wanted more.
What I liked:
In summary: I didn't like the book or it's core political beliefs, but I did get some interesting personal philosophies from it.
― Marcus Aurelius
Path of Exile: themightypuck
You're missing the part where that's not what happened
In my opinion, here are the things I'd expect:
A) The credit for it's discovery/invention
a cut of the earnings for every unit sold if sold in such a manner, maybe a bonus.
C) The fact I will never likely have to pay for energy again because holy fuck I just invented a perpetual energy generator
I'd muchly accept the argument that my invention is, however, almost immediately a public utility that should not ever be controlled by just one person or company, because, again, perpetual freaking energy. Myself and the rest of the human race will benefit much greater, most likely, if it was considered as such and not as a device I could sell for oodles of money.
It's being made into a movie
I imagine a 7-hour speech
"Is a Man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?"
"Of Course!"
"Is a shareholder not entitled to the fruits of the enterprise they fund?"
"NO, SCREW YOU"
This is what I think people are misconstruing for selfishness. As for your other points, I agree with some, most notably the train scene. Some, like the car notion may be a little far fetched and I won't comment on the sex stuff:winky:
that all said, thanks to everyone so far for contributing their thoughts
That doesn't really cover things though. Stealing takes work. Sweat of brow work. The classic example is: say I learn to fight and you learn to farm. You have food and I have fighting skills. I trade my fighting skills into some of your food.
― Marcus Aurelius
Path of Exile: themightypuck
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
It, like Ender's Game, is impossible to film.
Right, which is why objectivism is stupid
In fact that was like, the entire point of the Rapture setting of Bioshock.
Who's playing Galt; Stallone, Willis or Schwarzenegger?
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
But no one invents anything in a vacuum
This, very much this. The value of your money, the very fundamental underpinnings of society would change with widespread adoption of this device.
In my mind, the potential benefits to the human race (of which I am a part) are so great that it's worth more than the numbers in my bank account rising.
Make no mistake, if some regular guy discovered Galt's device, and patented it, he would be compensated. In objectivistland that compensation wouldn't be enough, but in realland, the billions he would likely make along with the fact that his name would go down in history forever because of it would be enough compensation.
I mean seriously, being another rich guy is great, but perpetual motion would change the entire planet, kids would be reading about you in school (or getting your name beamed into your head or whatever) thousands of years in the future.
No one is misconstruing anything for selfishness. It's a book about a bunch of selfish pricks.
In the book it isn't set up that way. Galt work at a motor company which got taken over, wherein the new owners stated that every worker will now only be compensated by their own need, not by their value, and so that everything they do thereafter did not directly benefit them, but that their labor was for the sake of others. Galt leaves the factory with said motor, factory eventually goes to shit,etc.
How about the fact that she idolized as the perfect Objectivist a sociopath who kidnapped, murdered, and mutilated a young girl?
And no, I am not making this up whatsoever.
They bought the company and all the inventions. They own the motor. If he doesn't like it, he can quit, but he can't take the stuff they just bought.
Galt then sabatoges the entire infrastructure of the society, takes a bunch of other smart people, blows a bunch of shit up, and then talks for 5 days straight about how he shouldn't have to obey contracts or laws instead of going to a different company.