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Bring it, cable and talk radio demagogues: Obama crowned god-emperor of Illuminati.
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Well, there are some arguments towards that that do make sense.
However, a bit late now, considering he's already declared he'll accept it.
Stay classy, Georgia.
That's simply a rationalization of how he can turn it down without it blowing up in his face. It says nothing about why turning it down is the preferable option.
I read that, it sounded pretty dumb both times.
Giving the Novel Committee a big Fuck You can really only be negative, and the up-swing of declining is that it's what his critics consider to be the" right thing"; chances are good declining the award isn't going to earn significant points with those people in the first place.
that award show would take forever
Anyway, those arguments are mainly centered about how it will look to Average American Swing Voter. Not his supporters, not his critics, but those people who are swayed easily between Approve and Disapprove on polls.
I will have to show this to some people.
I think they will be disappointed with Georgia.
(They are from Georgia.)
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I'm pretty sure if you lick these peoples' assholes the wrong way, they are going to be upset with you.
You don't turn down the Nobel Peace Prize. Best you can hope for is donating the money to something you think is worthwhile.
And focusing on the American Swing Voter, while certainly important for a variety of reasons, isn't exactly what I would describe as "looking at the bigger picture, which is something that I figure Obama's sort of got down-pat by this point.
You'd be hard-pressed to convince me that you're going to earn a significant number of those swing votes by turning down the Nobel Peace Prize.
.... Why would you do that?
Isn't Obama's approval like 70% right now?
I'm telling you, there is little to be gained from declining the award.
And personally, I don't care whether or not he does. I was merely forwarding one of the arguments in favor of declination.
berlin wall, maybe
that's it though
I should probably look at some actual approval numbers.
Poland would probably have given him their vote, if they were on that panel to vote.
I think you're forgetting about "winning one for the Gipper".
JUST SAY NO
TO OBAMA
It is a Hallmark greeting card shop or something
I'm sure that could be considered fighting words...or at least it could be argued enough to the point where it could probably be taken down in lieu of a decision.
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I'd just firebomb them
I am a true american revolutionary
Ah, yes, the "Fighting Words" Act, banning the use of words that might hurt people's feelings.
Seriously, I certainly don't know the particulars about use of the N-word in public, certainly not in the State of Georgia, but I think you might be a little fuzzy on how Laws work.
Ok, but.
who are the people that think he should turn it down?
How many of them will ever like him? He could resign, somehow restructure the government so Beck, Palin, and Bush all served as co-presidents, and they would say that a million monkeys would pound out shakespeare eventually.
I mean what population of the people who are saying that he should refuse the prize would actually ever conceivably like him, while he remains a democrat? Versus how dickish would it look on the global stage if he was all "Fuck your Nobel Peace Prize!" The only pro of declining it would be that people who will never like him would have to find something else to complain about.
No, it's the "fighting words" doctrine
And yes, fighting words is a precedent, not an act, but I'm sure that was just a semantic slip up, so...
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Wow, this is fantastic.
I honestly had no idea about this. Many thanks.
I'm willing to bet many of the people who are suggesting he turn it down are the same people who heavily criticized him for even talking to international leaders because they felt Obama "made America seem weak"
No no, it turns out you were very right.
And don't go singling out Blacks, that sign is pretty offensive to basically anybody.
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Yeah, but the Supreme Court has also said that you can say pretty much whatever the hell you want about public officials and public figures, laws concerning defamation (New York Times v. Sullivan) and intentional infliction of emotional distress (Hustler Magazine v. Falwell) notwithstanding.
Uh - since he peacefully navigated a very tense historical period?
pretty impressive given all the things he did to try to fuck it up, too
I'm sure they wanted to be careful with setting that kind of precedent.