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Valhalla Knights Eldar Saga: crazy fun in lots of brown

Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-FedRegistered User regular
edited December 2009 in Games and Technology
This is getting some amazingly shitty reviews so I figured I'd best make a thread.

Game is fun.

It's a little bit Phantasy Star Online, a little bit Monster Hunter and a little bit Demon Souls. If you like any of them, I encourage you to give this a try. Definitely not a perfect 10; there's some really odd design choices, but overall it's an amazingly neat game with a massive buttload of character customization.

There a good gameplay movie here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gllUmN-QUEc

Yeah, it's REALLY brown.

You make a male character at the start (if you play chapter 1, you can skip right to chapter 2 for more choices) and can be a Fighter, Thief, Mage, Priest, or Bard; all with skill trees that are somewhat secretive; there's really no telling what all the eventual skills are or how to unlock them all. For example, levelling a mage's Fire spell to 3 will unlock his area affect fire spell. Leveling a Priest's Aid skill will unlock Ray.

You have four slots for combat skills and four slots for passive skills and you can set any skill you've learned in any slot; the character class you are currently only affects stats (as far as I can tell, in VH2 for the PSP they also had bunches of passive bonuses, that may be true here as well).

There's BOATLOADS of different equipment and most of it seems to perform exactly the same until you find weapons with slots in them, then you can customize those further with gems and I've been finding materials as well which makes me think I'll be able to make weapons eventually also. There's also some oil that refers to "machine weapons" so I'm guessing that's it. The equipment is the most obtuse feature of the game; weapons have Weapon Level and Armour has Armour Level but that doesn't really explain much. Most weapons are at 1 as is armour but they still all effect you differently. I just put on what makes me pretty. You mostly get better at weapons and armour by leveling up the skills associated with them.

You also get to hire mercenaries to take with you and can customize their equipment as well. The AI is ok but they frequently get hung up on ledges and get stuck in Run Mode.

So good stuff:
-fabulous customizability; you can darn well make anything and there's about 6 more classes with 10 more skills each and 3 more races that I haven't even unlocked yet. After chapter one, you get to marry someone and who you marry determines what race of characters you can make in chapter 2.
-good graphics on the Wii. That's open to opinion but for some reason the ALL IS BROWN is really neat to me in this game. The areas are big and sprawling and there's lots to search out.

Bad stuff:
-you can't change equipment outside town. That's dumb.
-the footstep sound seems like they have coconuts strapped to their feet. You get over it fast and it does change but it's a bizarre choice by the developers.
-Documentation is terrible. There's a lot going on in this game and it's really deep but you'll never get decent explanation for any of it.

Meh stuff:
-The game suffers from Trapped In A Combo animations; if you hammer buttons you'll end up stuck in attack animations and slaughtered. But as long as you learn the controls it's ok. The game functions on the Classic Controller as well and after being on the Nunchuck for a week I'd really like to try that instead; there's too many odd combinations of buttons to learn on the Wiimote.

Also, online multi play but who cares.

edit: also, game seems CRAZY RARE. If you want it get it now.

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  • DyvionDyvion Back in Sunny Florida!!Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Hello gamefly queue.

    e: Ok... uh... it was already in my GameQ... Moving it up a couple spots.

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  • SilpheedSilpheed Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    This game looks like plenty of fun since I'm a fan of freeform RPG's. It's just a shame that it's only released on a console that I have no interest whatsoever to purchase.

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  • DyvionDyvion Back in Sunny Florida!!Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    What's the deal with the sound effects in that video? When the bird was coming down I thought it was an ornithopter... and when the beetle sound effect started I thought it was a hovercraft coming at the chick... beetles shouldn't sound like hovercraft and birds shouldn't sound like mechanical flying machines.

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  • EliminationElimination Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Man those are some terrible sound effects, especially the running effect, could it be any more annoying and intrusive?

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Yes, the sounds affects are REALLY weird. No, they won't bug you after five minutes of playing.

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  • EliminationElimination Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Those graphics look pretty bad for the wii too imo. theres no colours, no art direction at all, and the outside woods are blank, brown, have no grass no flare. Nothing in this game looks appealing at all, theres no real music to be noticed it looks very un-fun to me. Maybe playing online is what makes it fun though? Kind of like Monster Hunter on PS2? It also appears to have no storyline what so ever.

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    There is a story, it's crap tho. Something about sealing shards of a crystal that's making monsters.

    Graphics are strictly an opinion. I love the environments but the character models are pretty blocky and poor. Yeah, they could have used more colour. But of course there was art direction; just because you don't like it doesn't mean it wasn't there.

    There's very little music if any in the monster filled areas but I absolutely love that; it's very atmospheric.

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  • Indica1Indica1 Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    what system is this for?

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  • DyvionDyvion Back in Sunny Florida!!Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Wii.
    Magic Pink wrote:
    -good graphics on the Wii.

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Wow, the story certainly picks up a bit after Episode 1. And JESUS there's lots of classes. This is gonna take forever.

    I JUST found out there's a guy that will make accessories in the Elven town from all those materials I've been finding as well as a Dwarf in the Dwarf town that will upgrade equipment. That would have made things easier.

    Sadly, my preferred mercenary changed from Fighter to Knight. He does a hell of a lot more damage but he's made out of tissue now. Which isn't to bad, I started Priest so all I can really do is heal. BUT I DO IT WELL.

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  • AriviaArivia I Like A Challenge Earth-1Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    So you have to unlock the ability to play as a woman? That's...kind of weird.

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Arivia wrote: »
    So you have to unlock the ability to play as a woman? That's...kind of weird.

    You don't, really, and it's part of the storyline. The story starts with you as the chosen warrior for this kid in a wheelchair, the last of his family, with the ability to seal these Star Shards or some such. You get to pick from 4 different women to marry at the end of Episode 1 and that determines what races you can make for Episode 2.

    OR

    If you don't care about the story or other races you can jump right into Episode 2 and make a human male or female.

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  • TaroniTaroni Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    oh so there was a thread for this game... I expected the PA fans let this game be known.
    I take it no friend codes like on the AC:CF thread...

    Side note this has helped me through the difficult time of having to cancel my Demon's Souls deluxe preorder due to YLOD.... but not much when I read web comics ;_; lol

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  • Lavender GoomsLavender Gooms Tiny Bat Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I was thinking of getting this as the free one in Best Buy's buy 2 get the third free sale, just had some questions.

    In the gameplay movie you show, the player seems to have a hard time killing a rabbit... and then later gets beaten up rather badly by 2 bats and ends up running away for the rest of the video.

    Is that common?

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    No, he's way out of his league level wise and he's picked a really poor mercenary as his partner. He's also REALLY bad with the controls; he hits the wrong button frequently.

    But bats, yeah, bats suck. They Disease and Darkness you and all flying things are a bitch to hit. Once you do, they go down pretty fast.

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  • TaroniTaroni Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Just run and A attack and the bunnies faint lol, Bats only piss me off in a certain cave in CH.2

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  • DyvionDyvion Back in Sunny Florida!!Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    This finally came up in my Gamefly queue and I must admit this is a lot better than I was expecting. I'm making a Mage focused build... but it's very difficult to obtain any useful information on this game. I found out that Priests have a 'Flow' skill that improves magic point regeneration, but having put 1 point into it (after getting to level 9 for 8 points worth of pre-requisites) it doesn't seem to significantly improve regen. Hopefully more points will improve the regen. I want to max Flow and get 5 points in Aid so I can heal my mercenary, then go back to building up my mage.

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