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TexiKen

Kyougu wrote: »

So my I saw this as an event one of my friends is attending.

Please join us this Thursday, 11/19, in BTSU 207 for a talk by Mark Bernard, American Culture Studies Ph.D. candidate!

“The Golden Avenger and the Dark Knight: Superheroes and National Security Cinema”

The 2008 summer movie season was bookended by the blockbuster successes of two superhero movies: Iron Man (Jon Favreau, 2008) and The Dark Knight (Christopher Nolan, 2008). In addition scoring a combined worldwide gross of over a billion and a half dollars, these films were also showered with critical praise that heralded the maturation of the superhero movie genre.

Unfortunately absent from many of the discussions surrounding these films are their insidious ties to – and oftentimes endorsement of – the United States’s National Security policies. Mark Bernard will explore these connections by contextualizing the films within the genre of “National Security Cinema,” films that justify homeland security policies and military action abroad by depicting the US as vulnerable and under attack.

I'll have to ask her what was actually said, but I found it an interesting prompt. I can kinda see the connection that could be done with Iron Man, but Dark Knight? Not sure. What do you all think?

You punch your friend in the fucking head if he believes any of that crap that person auditioning for a job spouts.

The whole point of Iron Man is he quits making weapons after having nearly died from them himself. And then he goes and kills the terrorists, how can you spin that as bad, really?

Dark Knight had some weak wiretapping analogy with the phones being sonars but it wasn't like Tony Bedard having Superman in Countdown sitting in the Daily Planet whining about Global Warming while Amazons are killing people in DC. THAT was over the top with its politics.

TexiKen

Idris Elba, aka Stringer Bell, aka Charles Minor, has been cast as Heimdall in the Thor movie.

Hmmmm. A step up from Obsessed at least.

I guess Omar or McNulty might be a frost giant then?

DarkWarrior

TexiKen wrote: »

Kyougu wrote: »

So my I saw this as an event one of my friends is attending.

Please join us this Thursday, 11/19, in BTSU 207 for a talk by Mark Bernard, American Culture Studies Ph.D. candidate!

“The Golden Avenger and the Dark Knight: Superheroes and National Security Cinema”

The 2008 summer movie season was bookended by the blockbuster successes of two superhero movies: Iron Man (Jon Favreau, 2008) and The Dark Knight (Christopher Nolan, 2008). In addition scoring a combined worldwide gross of over a billion and a half dollars, these films were also showered with critical praise that heralded the maturation of the superhero movie genre.

Unfortunately absent from many of the discussions surrounding these films are their insidious ties to – and oftentimes endorsement of – the United States’s National Security policies. Mark Bernard will explore these connections by contextualizing the films within the genre of “National Security Cinema,” films that justify homeland security policies and military action abroad by depicting the US as vulnerable and under attack.

I'll have to ask her what was actually said, but I found it an interesting prompt. I can kinda see the connection that could be done with Iron Man, but Dark Knight? Not sure. What do you all think?

You punch your friend in the fucking head if he believes any of that crap that person auditioning for a job spouts.

The whole point of Iron Man is he quits making weapons after having nearly died from them himself. And then he goes and kills the terrorists, how can you spin that as bad, really?

Dark Knight had some weak wiretapping analogy with the phones being sonars but it wasn't like Tony Bedard having Superman in Countdown sitting in the Daily Planet whining about Global Warming while Amazons are killing people in DC. THAT was over the top with its politics.

Iron Man was cheesy in that he flew out to fight the military equivalent of cockroaches, sand people with guns. Hes an American hero not the afghanistan warrior.

Servo

stringer bell! fuck yes! the thor movie is going to be a motherfucking trip.

Servo

"the golden avenger"? has anyone ever called iron man that?


sounds more like the sentry

TexiKen

DarkWarrior wrote: »

TexiKen wrote: »

Kyougu wrote: »

So my I saw this as an event one of my friends is attending.

Please join us this Thursday, 11/19, in BTSU 207 for a talk by Mark Bernard, American Culture Studies Ph.D. candidate!

“The Golden Avenger and the Dark Knight: Superheroes and National Security Cinema”

The 2008 summer movie season was bookended by the blockbuster successes of two superhero movies: Iron Man (Jon Favreau, 2008) and The Dark Knight (Christopher Nolan, 2008). In addition scoring a combined worldwide gross of over a billion and a half dollars, these films were also showered with critical praise that heralded the maturation of the superhero movie genre.

Unfortunately absent from many of the discussions surrounding these films are their insidious ties to – and oftentimes endorsement of – the United States’s National Security policies. Mark Bernard will explore these connections by contextualizing the films within the genre of “National Security Cinema,” films that justify homeland security policies and military action abroad by depicting the US as vulnerable and under attack.

I'll have to ask her what was actually said, but I found it an interesting prompt. I can kinda see the connection that could be done with Iron Man, but Dark Knight? Not sure. What do you all think?

You punch your friend in the fucking head if he believes any of that crap that person auditioning for a job spouts.

The whole point of Iron Man is he quits making weapons after having nearly died from them himself. And then he goes and kills the terrorists, how can you spin that as bad, really?

Dark Knight had some weak wiretapping analogy with the phones being sonars but it wasn't like Tony Bedard having Superman in Countdown sitting in the Daily Planet whining about Global Warming while Amazons are killing people in DC. THAT was over the top with its politics.

Iron Man was cheesy in that he flew out to fight the military equivalent of cockroaches, sand people with guns. Hes an American hero not the afghanistan warrior.

You gotta start somewhere. And he had a reason to fight the jawas, as they were using his weapons.

Servo

jawas aren't sand people!

TexiKen

I need to rewatch Star Wars, because I am completely screwing up analogies left and right when I use them. It's like lightswords and the K-wings are really messing with what I remember ADT-ADT crawlers being.

The Lovely Bastard

Servo wrote: »

"the golden avenger"? has anyone ever called iron man that?


sounds more like the sentry

he used to be way back in the 60's

when he was honkin' big old gold robot dealie

Robos A Go Go

Pretty sure he's only being called the Golden Avenger because of the contrast with the Dark Knight which, I guess, is supposed to make his observation about their surprising commonalities seem all the more insightful.

The Lovely Bastard

yes but also because that is what he was called

Robos A Go Go

The Lovely Bastard wrote: »

yes but also because that is what he was called

Notable aliases: Iron Knight, Invincible Iron Man, Armored Avenger, Iron Avenger

Those nicknames are a lot more common. "Golden Avenger" is a lot less common, and I wouldn't be surprised if this guy happened to use it in the title of his presentation by simple coincidence.

DarkWarrior

I have never, ever, ever heard anyone refer to Iron Man as the Golden Avenger before this guy.

Hensler

Robos A Go Go wrote: »

The Lovely Bastard wrote: »

yes but also because that is what he was called

Notable aliases: Iron Knight, Invincible Iron Man, Armored Avenger, Iron Avenger

Those nicknames are a lot more common. "Golden Avenger" is a lot less common, and I wouldn't be surprised if this guy happened to use it in the title of his presentation by simple coincidence.

The Iron Knight? Isn't that the robot Jedi in the Star Wars comics? I can't remember that ever really being used for Stark.

Robos A Go Go

DarkWarrior wrote: »

I have never, ever, ever heard anyone refer to Iron Man as the Golden Avenger before this guy.

I did a google search and most of the results were for this one-shot from '08.

Witch_Hunter_84

With Anthony Hopkins taking Blessed's place as Odin, it is rumored that the long time Branagh collaborator will be playing the role of Volstagg instead. But that's if he isn't nixed from the film altogether. I don't imagine Kenneth Branagh would do that to his long time friend, but nothing is certain.

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/10/30/with-anthony-hopkins-as-odin-is-brian-blessed-still-in-thor/

TexiKen

Ray Stevenson would make a good Heimdall instead of Volstagg, that kind of "leave me be while I take watch" attitude.

MastaP

Turtles Forever tomorrow guys!

Bloods End

And Man oh man it was perfect. It ranks up there with JLU as one of the best cartoon endings of all time.

Saph

TexiKen wrote: »

Ray Stevenson would make a good Heimdall instead of Volstagg, that kind of "leave me be while I take watch" attitude.

Idris Elba is playing Heimdall. Which is why there is a massive uproar on SuperHeroHype about black actors taking white roles.

TexiKen

I know. That is why I said Stevenson should be Heimdall instead of being cast as Volstagg.

emnmnme

Warner Bros put out animated Green Lantern and Batman/Superman movies earlier this year - are they worth renting?

TexiKen

Green Lantern is mixed, but Superman/Batman is universally panned.

Robos A Go Go

Not universally, but it was indeed terrible.

Wonder Woman is my favorite so far.

TexiKen

Loeb's opinion of his own work doesn't count.

Thane

Saph wrote: »

TexiKen wrote: »

Ray Stevenson would make a good Heimdall instead of Volstagg, that kind of "leave me be while I take watch" attitude.

Idris Elba is playing Heimdall. Which is why there is a massive uproar on SuperHeroHype about black actors taking white roles.

To be reasonable, Elba has that Heimdall stare down to an art form

Hensler

emnmnme wrote: »

Warner Bros put out animated Green Lantern and Batman/Superman movies earlier this year - are they worth renting?

If you like Dragonball Z, you'll like the Green Lantern movie. And Batman/Superman has better animation than most of the movies and really looks like the original comic brought to life. But the storyline is pretty weak.

Silver_Mage

io9 has more pictures of the Hawkman, Dr. Fate, and Stargirl from Smallville, check them out at the link:

http://io9.com/5412728/say-hello-to-smallvilles-veteran-superheroes

The only thing I don't care for is Stargirl's mask, but I can get over it.

Robos A Go Go

Silver_Mage wrote: »

io9 has more pictures of the Hawkman, Dr. Fate, and Stargirl from Smallville, check them out at the link:

http://io9.com/5412728/say-hello-to-smallvilles-veteran-superheroes

The only thing I don't care for is Stargirl's mask, but I can get over it.

I'm surprised that they went with such traditional outfits after altering everyone else's looks.

And yes, Star Girl looks silly. Her mask looks bulbous.

Silver_Mage

Did you see the teaser? They also showed shots of Sandman and Green Lantern (Allen Scott).

Robos A Go Go

I meant after altering Green Arrow and the Legion's looks.

Garlic Bread

wow they look terrible

ExAzrael

Hensler wrote: »

emnmnme wrote: »

Warner Bros put out animated Green Lantern and Batman/Superman movies earlier this year - are they worth renting?

If you like Dragonball Z, you'll like the Green Lantern movie. And Batman/Superman has better animation than most of the movies and really looks like the original comic brought to life. But the storyline is pretty weak.

I like to think that Green Lantern's movie had a much better plot than "OMG HE IS POWERING UP NOW OH MY GOD LOOK AT THAT POWER LEVEL".

I actually found Superman/Batman's animation style to be rather Lulzy at points, but otherwise it was solid and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Especially Metallo. Do not anger Dr. Cox.

Robos A Go Go

Green Lantern's first half was really promising. The final battle was the biggest letdown, but on the whole it suffered the most from Hal's thin characterization.

ExAzrael

hnn..I agree. they could have done more to flesh out Hal's personality. But I'm a big Hal fan so I already knew his personality going in.

I was kinda hoping to see him attack people with jets.

Robos A Go Go

He pretty much goes from being a test pilot who's never seen an alien to saving the universe without demonstrating shock, disbelief, or really any strong emotional reaction in between.

Ringo

That's the Hal Jordan we all know and love!

Robos A Go Go

Ha, you've got me there.

Sinestro was pretty well done, though.

ExAzrael

Well he is "the man without fear".

So It'd make sense his reaction would be "....huh."

Robos A Go Go

That's Daredevil.

And bravery doesn't (and shouldn't) entail unflappable stoicism. At the very least they should've taken him further in that direction and made a point of highlighting how cool he is under pressure and his flip attitude to alien civilizations and apocalyptic battles in general.