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16bit-type RPGS for PC?

ButtcleftButtcleft Registered User regular
edited October 2009 in Games and Technology
Are there any good RPGs for the pc that are styled after the 16bit era in graphics and story?
Don't suggest roms ffs, I'm looking for actual PC games.

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  • urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    There's a game called Eternal Eden. I've seen it around but haven't had the chance to try it out. There's a demo for it if you want to give it a shot.

    e: site: http://www.blossomsoft.com/

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  • IceBurnerIceBurner It's cold and there are penguins.Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    You might be able to find some decent stuff made using the official English versions of RPG Maker XP and VX.

    Edit: Or make your own!

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  • DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Buttcleft wrote: »
    Are there any good RPG games for the pc that are styled after the 16bit era in graphics and story?
    Don't suggest roms ffs, I'm looking for actual PC games.

    I know I whore them out all the time (I did earlier today in fact!) but Spiderweb Software has some really good old-school RPG games.

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  • BlackDragon480BlackDragon480 Bluster Kerfuffle Master of Windy ImportRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Darmak wrote: »
    Buttcleft wrote: »
    Are there any good RPG games for the pc that are styled after the 16bit era in graphics and story?
    I know I whore them out all the time (I did earlier today in fact!) but Spiderweb Software has some really good old-school RPG games.

    I like the Geneforge series they did, scratched my old-school RPG itch nicely.

    The Aveyond series from Amaranth Games are another decent set to check out. They're simply made with RPGMaker, but they have some good ideas and decent plot.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    You can keep your Planscape:Torment or your Baldur's Gate.

    Barkley Shut up and Jam Gaiden is the BEST CRPG ever.

    EVER.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F1cOvZ3nS8

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    If you're going to play a SNES-style RPG, Shut and Jam is fantastic.

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  • WerewulfyWerewulfy Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    If you're going to play a SNES-style RPG, Shut and Jam is slamtastic.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Werewulfy wrote: »
    If you're going to play a SNES-style RPG, Shut and Jam is slamtastic.

    fuck I missed a golden opportunity

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    There may be a few things in the Indie Game thread. Which is linked in my sig. I haven't tried any out myself, mind you.

    Edit - Ha, there's only three RPGs listed there and one of them has been noted already.

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  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Darmak wrote: »
    Buttcleft wrote: »
    Are there any good RPG games for the pc that are styled after the 16bit era in graphics and story?
    Don't suggest roms ffs, I'm looking for actual PC games.

    I know I whore them out all the time (I did earlier today in fact!) but Spiderweb Software has some really good old-school RPG games.

    I think I love you

    For the past week I had been trying to remember the name of an old RPG I'd played on my MacinTosh as a child, and it was Exile/Avernum

    Time to enter the Way Back Machine and replay that shit :D

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  • DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    Darmak wrote: »
    Buttcleft wrote: »
    Are there any good RPG games for the pc that are styled after the 16bit era in graphics and story?
    Don't suggest roms ffs, I'm looking for actual PC games.

    I know I whore them out all the time (I did earlier today in fact!) but Spiderweb Software has some really good old-school RPG games.

    I think I love you

    For the past week I had been trying to remember the name of an old RPG I'd played on my MacinTosh as a child, and it was Exile/Avernum

    Time to enter the Way Back Machine and replay that shit :D

    I don't have a Mac but I still think it's cool that he makes his games for both Mac and PC, not many devs do that anymore. Not only that, he actually makes them for the Mac first, then ports them over to PC (Avernum 6 is coming out later this year for Mac and won't be out on PC till some time next year), that's pretty neat.

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  • Steel AngelSteel Angel Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Darmak wrote: »
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    Darmak wrote: »
    Buttcleft wrote: »
    Are there any good RPG games for the pc that are styled after the 16bit era in graphics and story?
    Don't suggest roms ffs, I'm looking for actual PC games.

    I know I whore them out all the time (I did earlier today in fact!) but Spiderweb Software has some really good old-school RPG games.

    I think I love you

    For the past week I had been trying to remember the name of an old RPG I'd played on my MacinTosh as a child, and it was Exile/Avernum

    Time to enter the Way Back Machine and replay that shit :D

    I don't have a Mac but I still think it's cool that he makes his games for both Mac and PC, not many devs do that anymore. Not only that, he actually makes them for the Mac first, then ports them over to PC (Avernum 6 is coming out later this year for Mac and won't be out on PC till some time next year), that's pretty neat.

    It comes from actually using a Mac as his primary computer himself. And since he's the only coder, that means working on one thing at a time.

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  • korodullinkorodullin What. SCRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    There's also Eschalon Book I by Basilisk Games. Came out a couple years ago and is unflinchingly old-school. Hopefully the second installment will be out before too long.

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  • psychotixpsychotix __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2009
    urahonky wrote: »
    There's a game called Eternal Eden. I've seen it around but haven't had the chance to try it out. There's a demo for it if you want to give it a shot.

    e: site: http://www.blossomsoft.com/


    Looks cool, boughted!

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  • CherrnCherrn Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    You can always track down classics such as Knights of Xentar (don't actually do that).

    Seriously, though, you can check out Septerra Core on Good Old Games. I don't know how well it holds up these days, but it was an interesting Western take on Japanese RPGs back when it came out.

    Other than that, there are a few indie games, such as Spirit Engine, which I'm told is quite good.

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  • ImpersonatorImpersonator Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    korodullin wrote: »
    There's also Eschalon Book I by Basilisk Games. Came out a couple years ago and is unflinchingly old-school. Hopefully the second installment will be out before too long.

    Available on Steam and with a demo. :-)

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  • MithMith Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Looking at the very tip of the iceberg as far as RPG Maker games go: Last Scenario and Exit Fate are well put together and popular over at SA. Hero's Realm is very explicitly console-16-bit styled without being a slave to it, and is pretty fun.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    OH OHHHH!

    Anachronix or whatever the hell it's called is basically a 3D mashup of Chrono Trigger and Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy. Not quite what you're asking for (Barkley is however) but a damn fine game nonetheless.

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  • BraincowBraincow Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Does Elona count as a 16-bit style RPG? Even if not, it kicks ass.

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  • SirUltimosSirUltimos Don't talk, Rusty. Just paint. Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    You, my friend, want to raid the RM2K community for their games. Like most indie game creation programs, 99% of what was made with it is garbage. But the 1% that is playable is usually fantastic. If you give me a bit I'll dig up the best of the bunch. I was active in the community for years so I have a pretty good idea of what the good stuff is.

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  • psychotixpsychotix __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2009
    SirUltimos wrote: »
    You, my friend, want to raid the RM2K community for their games. Like most indie game creation programs, 99% of what was made with it is garbage. But the 1% that is playable is usually fantastic. If you give me a bit I'll dig up the best of the bunch. I was active in the community for years so I have a pretty good idea of what the good stuff is.

    Send the good shit to me as well.

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  • ClevingerClevinger Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Mith wrote: »
    Looking at the very tip of the iceberg as far as RPG Maker games go: Last Scenario and Exit Fate are well put together and popular over at SA.

    I'd second this.

    Last Scenario is normal JRPG type game. Exit Fate is like Suikoden; it's a blend of RPG and army/castle building.

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  • Lord JezoLord Jezo Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Another vote for Barkley Shut Up and Jam. It was one of the most wonderful 16 bit RPGs I have played in a really long time.

    Also, it's canon, so you can't beat that. You'll be playing actual history when you run through it.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    SirUltimos wrote: »
    You, my friend, want to raid the RM2K community for their games. Like most indie game creation programs, 99% of what was made with it is garbage. But the 1% that is playable is usually fantastic. If you give me a bit I'll dig up the best of the bunch. I was active in the community for years so I have a pretty good idea of what the good stuff is.

    I used to always see praise for Laxius Power. Is that actually considered a good RPG? I was always curious, but never tried it myself.

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  • Mr.BrickMr.Brick Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Exit fate looks pretty amazing.

    I am also going to throw another vote in for the Avernum/Exile games (play the avernum ones, same game but updated). While its not exactly 16bit- it captures that feeling and era very well. They are also fantastic games. I recomend Blades Of Avernum of you don't have a huge amount of time to sink. Its 4-5 mini games that are 15-20 hours in length (maybe more). You can dedicate a bit of time to beat them then save your party and move onto the next adventure.

    Great games. I love them and spiderweb is fantastic.

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  • ButtcleftButtcleft Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Braincow wrote: »
    Does Elona count as a 16-bit style RPG? Even if not, it kicks ass.

    I've got Elona.

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  • DelzhandDelzhand Registered User, Transition Team regular
    edited October 2009
    Werewulfy wrote: »
    If you're going to play a SNES-style RPG, Shut and Jam is slamtastic.

    Plus one character can use gun's.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Delzhand wrote: »
    Werewulfy wrote: »
    If you're going to play a SNES-style RPG, Shut and Jam is slamtastic.

    Plus one character can use gun's.

    And there's a robot/basketball/dwarf.

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  • LoveIsUnityLoveIsUnity Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Delzhand wrote: »
    Werewulfy wrote: »
    If you're going to play a SNES-style RPG, Shut and Jam is slamtastic.

    Plus one character can use gun's.

    And there's a robot/basketball/dwarf.

    And it makes fun of weeaboos and furries.

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  • SirUltimosSirUltimos Don't talk, Rusty. Just paint. Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    SirUltimos wrote: »
    You, my friend, want to raid the RM2K community for their games. Like most indie game creation programs, 99% of what was made with it is garbage. But the 1% that is playable is usually fantastic. If you give me a bit I'll dig up the best of the bunch. I was active in the community for years so I have a pretty good idea of what the good stuff is.

    I used to always see praise for Laxius Power. Is that actually considered a good RPG? I was always curious, but never tried it myself.

    Fuck no. Well, maybe. It's one of the handful of RM2K games that's actually completed, so that's worth something on it's own. Apparently it's really long too. But I wouldn't know, seeing as how the beginning was so godawful I never played very far into it.

    There's 2 sequels though, and I've never tried either of them.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I remember one, I think it was Eye of Ahriman, that was good. I don't know if it was ever completed.

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  • Page-Page- Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    SirUltimos wrote: »
    SirUltimos wrote: »
    You, my friend, want to raid the RM2K community for their games. Like most indie game creation programs, 99% of what was made with it is garbage. But the 1% that is playable is usually fantastic. If you give me a bit I'll dig up the best of the bunch. I was active in the community for years so I have a pretty good idea of what the good stuff is.

    I used to always see praise for Laxius Power. Is that actually considered a good RPG? I was always curious, but never tried it myself.

    Fuck no. Well, maybe. It's one of the handful of RM2K games that's actually completed, so that's worth something on it's own. Apparently it's really long too. But I wouldn't know, seeing as how the beginning was so godawful I never played very far into it.

    There's 2 sequels though, and I've never tried either of them.

    Pimping my own thread/LP of The Way, which is easily one of the best things that ever came out of the RPG Maker scene.

    Laxius Power is only for if you really like JRPG dungeon crawls and grinding. The story is bad, and not only that, the guy who made it is French and has a lot of trouble with English grammar and spelling. However, he managed to complete 3 HUGE games (a massive feat when you consider that the total number of completed RM2k games worth noting can't be more than a dozen), and they're relatively tough.

    Also, he does his own art and there's some NSFW stuff in there.

    I'd check out Three The Hard Way as well. Free, quite long (at least 30 hours, with many branching paths, secrets, multiple endings, etc), very well written for the type of game it is, even if it's not much to look at, and it's actually complete.

    There's also a FF fan game called Endless Nova that's decent enough. Might take you 15-20 hours.

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  • RestartRestart Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    If you haven't played Breath of Fire, there's at least one of em on PC.

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  • SirUltimosSirUltimos Don't talk, Rusty. Just paint. Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Okay, here we go. A compiled list of RM2K games worth playing. I'll include a download link and a description of each game. In order to play these games you'll need to install the RM2K RTP package. I don't think I can link to it on these forums, but Google should be able to hook you up.

    I used to be part of the RM2K community back around 2001/2002. It was really the first online community I got into and as such it holds a lot of memories for me. These games are the ones I remember as being particularly good. Unfortunatly, due to the slow, painful death of the RPG Making scene a lot of very good games were lost to the sands of time. I'll do my best to dig up anything I can (I'll try and keep the list updated) and even raid from my own personal collection of games and upload what I can. However, these games were downloaded a long time ago and most of them have been lost over the years, but I'll grab what I still have sitting on old hard drives.

    Also keep in mind the context when you're playing the games. Some games (A Blurred Line, The Way) hold up incredibly well no matter what, at times rivalling professionally made games. Others, however, aren't that impressive until you realize they were made by amateurs with a decade old program. Some may not have aged as well (It's probably been 6 or 7 years since I played some of these) but at the very least they're interesting from a historial perspective. Some may not even be RPGs, but considering the engine they're made in, are still pretty damn impressive.


    A Blurred Line

    The grand daddy of all RM2K games. This game is considered to be the best thing that ever came from the community, and with good reason. The storyline to this game is really something else.

    Be warned, however, that it was never completed and likely never will be. You'll probably never get an end to the amazing storyline, so I hope you're okay with that before starting.

    Romancing Walker

    An RPG/dating sim hybrid. If my memory is correct, it was a pretty interesting game that's well worth the playthrough. It was originally Japanese, so beware of the dreaded Engrish!

    The Way

    If A Blurred Line isn't considered the best RM2K game, then this is. Broken up into 6 parts, this game was actually completed and is, from what I hear, phenominal.

    Phylomortis II

    This game was created by one of the most controversial people to ever grace the community, RPGAdvocate (or Advo for short). The game is.... interesting, using INCREDIBLY pretentious dialogue. However, it is long and coded really well. Apparantly the story is pretty interesting and the game pretty good if you can suffer
    through the writing.

    Kinetic Cipher

    One of my personal favourites. It was never completed, but what is there is long and really cool. I remember the characters being particularly memorable and the locations interesting. The dungeon design in this game is unrivalled in the RM2K realm, and rivals many professional RPGs.

    Nigsek: A Monster's Tale

    A fangame worth playing. Takes place in the Zelda universe in an alternate timeline from Ocarina of Time. The game is open ended and complete, but buggy is some spots. There's a lot of gameplay here (I'm told around 25 hours) and even a fair amount of FMV (when this game was released in 2000 this kind of thing was unheard of. I think it's still the only game to actually have FMV). I've never played it myself, but it was one of the staples of the community.



    If anyone is interested I may actually create a thread to share with people the glory days of the RM2K scene. I imagine I could dig up enough content to keep a thread going, and it would be a nice place to talk about the games if anyone actually wants to play them.

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  • SirUltimosSirUltimos Don't talk, Rusty. Just paint. Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Again, I would like to say that this list is grossly incomplete and there's a good 20-30 more games that are worthy of being included on the list. As soon as I can find them online somewhere I'll add them to the list, so keep checking back. Maybe even make a new thread just for RM2K games if anyone is interested.

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  • Page-Page- Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Check out the Three The Hard Way link (also a great RM2k game). He's mirrored a lot of classic RM2k/3k games there if you need download links.

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  • Marty81Marty81 Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I haven't played it, but you might try The Spirit Engine.

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  • Page-Page- Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I've played the first one and it was fun enough, though the battles were kind of restrictive. Never played the second one, but I'm sure it's better.

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  • Rear Admiral ChocoRear Admiral Choco I wanna be an owl, Jerry! Owl York CityRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Oh man, I remember RM2K. I used to love tinkering around on it, though I never did finish anything, of course.

    Still, I visit gamingworld once in a while since it's the one site I frequented for that sort of stuff.

    Anyway, get Barkley: Shut Up and Jam Gaiden. You will never play anything better.

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  • Rhan9Rhan9 Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Spirit Engine 2 is pretty great, and distinctly 16-bitish in style. I don't think it's available for free though. I've just been playing it on my friends laptop. The first Spirit Engine is freeware, if I recall correctly.
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