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I think I just caught a brown recluse - now what?

MrOlettaMrOletta Registered User regular
edited October 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
So I was sitting on the jon and noticed a spider coming down about 12 inches away from me from our bathroom vent. It hung out around my face for a while then proceeded to drift down to the floor then back up for a few minutes.

I slowly crept away and brought a glass jar (since I've read they cannot climb glass) and proceeded to have an epic battle of life or death with it until emerging victorious.

It's now sitting in a glass jar with a plastic wrap lid secured tightly with speed holes for oxygen.

The jar is sitting in a bowl of water, which is sitting in a booby trapped safe.

Is there anything I should do, or should I just put it out of its misery?

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  • EndaroEndaro Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    How sure are you it is a Brown Recluse? Where do you live?

    It is very hard for anyone but an arachnologist to identity a spider by just looking at it, there are so many spiders that look so alike. The Brown Recluse in particular is always cited when a spider is unknown, people always cry Brown Recluse.

    Do you have any young children/elderly at home? It's unlikely even if it is a recluse that it will cause any harm. If your intention is not to kill it, don't put it outside. As you found it inside, it is likely a house spider, and will die if put outside. They are adapted to surviving off of the heat and insects the house provides.

    I would just let it go in a room other than the one you're in. Spiders are a blessing, not a pest.

    Edit: I highly suggest reading a few things on this website.

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  • MrOlettaMrOletta Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I live in Austin, TX.

    No I'm not 100% positive it is as it seems the most likely method of identification is the eye pattern which I can't see (unfortunately).

    It's a shame I left my camera at work or I'd snap some photos.

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  • SatanIsMyMotorSatanIsMyMotor Fuck Warren Ellis Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    One way or another I think you should just kill the hell out of it. Worse case scenario is that you've killed a spider. Best case is you've kill a spider that can bite and poison you.

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  • PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
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    FINISH HIM
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  • DelzhandDelzhand Registered User, Transition Team regular
    edited October 2009
    Brown Recluses are easy to identify by a violin shaped pattern on their backs. Do you have a picture?

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  • EndaroEndaro Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Delzhand wrote: »
    Brown Recluses are easy to identify by a violin shaped pattern on their backs. Do you have a picture?

    Myth: You can identify "brown recluse" spiders by a violin shape.
    Myth: You can identify "brown recluse" spiders by a violin shape.

    Fact: Because of this myth, brown recluses are also called "violin" or "fiddleback" spiders. Although the "fiddle mark" does exist (not always very fiddle-like), it is worthless in identification!

    Many spiders, in assorted families, including the real Loxosceles reclusa, have a vaguely violin-like spot right behind the eyes. The number of species with such a spot, by itself would limit this spot's usefulness for identification!

    But most people who have heard this myth forget about the "right behind the eyes" part, and identify as "brown recluses" any spider in which any part of the body or pattern can be envisioned as violin-shaped. That includes the vast majority of all spiders! I have seen every common house spider in my region (where the real thing does not occur) misidentified in this way.

    The spider family (Sicariidae) to which the recluse group belongs is recognized partly by the arrangement of the eyes, which would rule out 99% of the specimens that get misidentified -- if anyone ever bothered to look for anything but that mythical "violin"! At species level, as in other spiders, a powerful microscope is needed to identify recluses, and in females, it is even necessary to cut open the abdomen and examine internal parts!

    And yet every first-aid manual, every public-health bulletin, every book and pamphlet on outdoor safety that deals with spiders lets readers believe that you can recognize this extremely hard-to-identify spider by that absurd "violin" shape. It is one of the most widely disseminated bits of spider misinformation, and I'm convinced that health care professionals learn it in medical school too!

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  • FightTestFightTest Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Kill the fucking shit out of the thing.

    I mean if it was a tiny ass generic spider and you want to let it go, fine, but if this thing might cause a big gaping, decaying hole in your body FUCKING KILL IT WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU THERE IS NO DECISION TO BE MADE, YOU FOOL.

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    As Endaro's quote points out, brown recluse spiders are actually pretty hard to find. I mean, they didn't get the name "recluse" because they just drop in on parties uninvited.

    As someone who generally doesn't like bugs (more because they startle me with their small size and typically unpredictable movements, not because of any great fear), I usually kill bugs found in the house. Since you've gone through all of this trouble, you might as well let it go outside, though.

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  • XtarathXtarath Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Spiders may be a blessing, but I think you should burn this one with fire.

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  • Dulcius_ex_asperisDulcius_ex_asperis Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I vote that you put it outside.

    Maybe in the neighbor's yard.

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  • Edith UpwardsEdith Upwards Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Use a blowtorch. It will be entertaining.

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  • happy cabbagehappy cabbage Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    It is most likely NOT a brown recluse, and even if it is you can still keep it as a pet.

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  • ascannerlightlyascannerlightly Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    if it were a widow i woud suggest as was posted in that other spider thread
    original?v=mpbl-1&px=-1

    their habitat range does cover most of texas, although recluses are not agressive (they're named that for a reason) and humans being bit is pretty rare. keep in mind: it came down, chilled there looking at you for a while, went further down and then went back up.

    personally, i would compromise between the buddhist catch-and-release ethos and the KILL THE FUCK OUT OF IT people by letting it go outside. if it makes it back in the house, it was meant to be.

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  • SliderSlider Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I hate spiders. Whenever I see one in the house I quickly grab a thick magazine and beat the living hell out of it.

    These are the f**kers I usually have to deal with.

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  • RaneadosRaneados police apologist you shouldn't have been there, obviouslyRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    why is this even a question

    either kill it, and it dies

    or put it outside, where it will probably die because spiders that come into houses don't do well outside

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  • happy cabbagehappy cabbage Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    That is a huntsman spider.

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  • susansusan Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Though generally a pacifist and nature lover, I must second those who have cited HOLY FIRE as the best solution to spiders.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Interrogate him. Find out where those other recluse motherfuckers are hiding!

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  • Raiden333Raiden333 Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Little known fact: Spiders are currently struggling to evolve sentience so that they can overthrow the human race. Anytime you don't kill a spider that dares invade your personal space, you're a traitor.

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2009
    If the abdomen has any spots/pattern at all besides a narrow slightly darker blotch in the middle, it's not a brown recluse.

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  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2009
    I think the solution is obvious, over-react bigtime. Cause a statewide, media fuelled panic.

    Or just flush the fucking thing and get on with your life.

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  • Brett AshleyBrett Ashley Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    He invaded your home!
    Why are you hesitating?!
    Terminate the bastard!

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  • Richard_DastardlyRichard_Dastardly Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Dude, why kill the spider? Yeah, they're ugly, but they take care of all the other bugs in your house that you don't see. Just let it go and it'll leave you alone.

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  • PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Dude, why kill the spider? Yeah, they're ugly, but they take care of all the other bugs in your house that you don't see. Just let it go and it'll leave you alone.

    Because when other bugs bite you, your leg doesn't turn black and fall off.

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  • John MatrixJohn Matrix Registered User regular
    edited October 2009

    original?v=mpbl-1&px=-1

    Seconded.

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  • happy cabbagehappy cabbage Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Spiders are one of natures most unique and interesting creatures. Why would someone want to kill them? They keep insect pests down, as well as create beautiful web structures.

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  • ErandusErandus Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Spiders are one of natures most unique and interesting creatures. Why would someone want to kill them?

    Shrieking, hysterical, inexplicable psychological terror.

    Some people just don't dig on spiders. Rational or not, spiders just scare the willies out of some people.

    OP, if you're really petrified of it, just kill it. It's not going to significantly impact your life if it dies, your house wont suddenly be overrun by other insects no longer held in check by its presence. If you can stomach knowing it's still in your house, let it go in your basement or attic, or outside near your foundation somewhere. It will find its way back into your walls.

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  • happy cabbagehappy cabbage Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    They should get a tarantula then. They are 8 legged teddy bears. :3

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  • MetalbourneMetalbourne Inside a cluster b personalityRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Understanding that we must coexist with all creatures, no matter how creepy, is a crucial step in achieving enlightenment. Release it outside and grow as a person.

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  • I'd Fuck Chuck Lidell UpI'd Fuck Chuck Lidell Up Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    put it in a fish tank, force feed it lsd, play the beatles and upload the resulting webs for us to see

    i have a rule. if i see a spider off in a corner or just outside i leave it alone. if i see one in my room, bitch gotta go.

    bathroom is even worse. that place is sacred. any bug that i see in my bathroom is met with a counterstrike that makes hiroshima look like a game of duck duck goose

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  • happy cabbagehappy cabbage Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    The spider would kill and eat any other bug found in your bathroom. Why do you want to kill something that gids rid of all other pests running around? You may have 1 spider in your bathroom, but without it you will have 15 or 20 roaches crawling around in no time.

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  • ErandusErandus Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Man, spiders just scare the fuck out of some people. There's no rationalizing it.

    I personally don't care for them either. I might be inclined to let a spider live if it's just hanging out in a corner minding it's own business, but if it's crawling around on my furniture, I'm probably gonna drop the hammer on it.

    My wife, however, is bothered by them so much that even seeing them on TV makes her heart race and she has to turn away. So most spiders in our house briefly regret being in our house before feeling nothing about anything ever again.

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  • RippedMermaidRippedMermaid Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I'd have to say kill it, simply because I FUCKING HATE SPIDERS.

    But that's just me.

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    On the other hand, fuck that shit.
  • ChalkbotChalkbot Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    While it's difficult to identify a brown recluse by sight, it's not as hard to identify one by it's behavior. It's highly unlikely that a brown recluse would dangle from the ceiling by a web (They don't really use web to travel), let alone in a lighted room where something (you) was stirring. That is the opposite of their nature.

    Which is good news for you. I'd hate to think I lived in a house where a brown recluse might fall into my lap when I'm pooping.

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  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Spiders are one of natures most unique and interesting creatures. Why would someone want to kill them? They keep insect pests down, as well as create beautiful web structures.

    http://scienceblogs.com/zooillogix/Social%20Cob%20Web%20Spiders.jpg

    Warning: THE STUFF OF NIGHTMARES beyond that link, and it's not even the worst spider tree picture I've seen, just the worst one on the first page of a google image search.

    Southern states apparently get some pretty epic spider trees. It's freaky enough up here in Michigan when the mosquitoes are bad, enough will congregate in the area to cover a very large tree, hedge row, sometimes an entire yard. I had a communal web in my back yard this year that stretched from my shed over into the neighbor's yard 30 feet away. I bought a new goddamn lawnmower because of that thing rather than climb through the giant web and get my nice one out of the shed.

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  • I'd Fuck Chuck Lidell UpI'd Fuck Chuck Lidell Up Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    The spider would kill and eat any other bug found in your bathroom. Why do you want to kill something that gids rid of all other pests running around? You may have 1 spider in your bathroom, but without it you will have 15 or 20 roaches crawling around in no time.

    what kind of terrible place do you live in/ in what condition do you keep your house?

    they are allowed outside my bedroom because they stop mosquitoes and i have some kind of ultra delicious blood because mosquitoes go to me like a compass needle to magnetic north. once the mosquito is in my room there would have to be a web literally over the top of me to stop me from being bitten. i do have a lot of spiders chillin outside my window though. they don't bug me (and have probably stopped a million mosquitoes at this point) so they stay. i didn't mind too much about them hiding in my room until i was bitten 16 times in one night by them... nothing says "kick us out" like painful, swollen, throbbing bites all over your back and arms... no sir

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  • GPIA7RGPIA7R Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Chalkbot wrote: »
    I'd hate to think I lived in a house where a brown recluse might fall into my lap when I'm pooping.


    golded for truth. This is the fear of all.

    But dear lord I love this thread so much.

    I'm one of those "irrational fear" people. I don't leave windows and doors open in the Summer because they can get in... and when I DO open a window, it's in my PC room where I can constantly spray it with Raid and keep an eye on it.

    Like clockwork, every night after 8:30, there are two huge motherfuckers sitting on my windows screen. Also, my patio is lined with webs (which is probably good, like a shield around my patio door... 'cept for shit that... uhm, flies over them), which are also occupied by huge motherfuckers.

    Outside - Fine. Inside - I freak out until I find it and coax it away. Can't touch or look at them for too long.

    Recently I looked at the center of my chest because it was a bit red. I scratched it and it started bleeding from what looked like 5-6 very tiny spots around the red area. So... yeah. I'm the fucking Spiderman.

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  • happy cabbagehappy cabbage Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
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  • PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
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    Can't see his picture since it's hosted on Photobucket, but I'm assuming he just posted a spider and that my response is perfect.

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  • RippedMermaidRippedMermaid Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
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    You sir, have just ruined my day.
    WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?

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    ph blake wrote: »
    On the other hand, fuck that shit.
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