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The New GOP Thread: Taking Anti-Intellectualism to a Whole New Level

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  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    emnmnme wrote: »
    There are liberal Republicans? Does that mean there are also conservative Democrats?
    There aren't really liberal Republicans anymore. There have to be moderates for there to be enough middle ground to link with the liberals.

    Conservative Democrats are pretty much universally self-interested shit heads.

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  • Salvation122Salvation122 Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    emnmnme wrote: »
    There are liberal Republicans? Does that mean there are also conservative Democrats?
    There aren't really liberal Republicans anymore. There have to be moderates for there to be enough middle ground to link with the liberals.

    Conservative Democrats are pretty much universally self-interested shit heads.

    How dare they represent their constituency instead of the Party!

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I want to know what leads to the conclusion of conservative Democrats automatically being self-interested shit heads. We've got two people making that claim.

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  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    emnmnme wrote: »
    There are liberal Republicans? Does that mean there are also conservative Democrats?
    There aren't really liberal Republicans anymore. There have to be moderates for there to be enough middle ground to link with the liberals.

    Conservative Democrats are pretty much universally self-interested shit heads.

    How dare they represent their constituency instead of the Party!
    Their constituency is the pharmaceutical and coal industries?

    To expand, conservative Dems tend to go against the polled wishes of their constituencies when future campaign funding is on the line.

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  • Dr Mario KartDr Mario Kart Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    It would be more accurate to call them corporate democrats. They're voting against the interests of their constituents and what they want in favor of what the corporations that own them want.

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  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    It would be more accurate to call them corporate democrats. They're voting against the interests of their constituents and what they want in favor of what the corporations that own them want.
    They refer to themselves as Conservative Democrats, though. At least a large portion of them do. They are explicitly corporatist, but they want to claim to be conservative because it doesn't have the same immediate negative connotations, or at least it didn't used to.

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  • Donkey KongDonkey Kong For Workgroups Version 3.11 Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    emnmnme wrote: »
    There are liberal Republicans? Does that mean there are also conservative Democrats?
    There aren't really liberal Republicans anymore. There have to be moderates for there to be enough middle ground to link with the liberals.

    Conservative Democrats are pretty much universally self-interested shit heads.

    How dare they represent their constituency instead of the Party!

    The problem with conservative democrats and liberal republicans is that they're not being honest. They're doing what they need to do to stay in office while pursuing a private agenda that their constituents wouldn't approve of. If they wanted to genuinely serve their constituents, they'd register independent and hold universally centrist policies.

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Oh we're going with a very specific definition of Conservative, okay that helps my understanding here.

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  • Salvation122Salvation122 Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Let's take the example of Bobby Bright (D, AL-2).

    Bobby Bright picked up a seat that had been Republican controlled since '65 with a 0.6% margin of victory. He is from a state widely regarded as being the most radically conservative in the nation. He votes with the party 70% of the time. Expecting him to fall in lockstep with Pelosi is madness.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Let's take the example of Bobby Bright (D, AL-2).

    Bobby Bright picked up a seat that had been Republican controlled since '65 with a 0.6% margin of victory. He is from a state widely regarded as being the most radically conservative in the nation. He votes with the party 70% of the time. Expecting him to fall in lockstep with Pelosi is madness.

    In general, I can understand this. However, with the party's most prominent domestic priority you'd hope for some support even if it was risky. I don't like cowardly legislators.

    Also: Alabama? Pffft, Oklahoma is way more conservative.

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  • Donkey KongDonkey Kong For Workgroups Version 3.11 Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Bright was an independent for 9 years in which he served as Montgomery's mayor, apparently doing a very good job. I'm not sure why he joined the dems last year.

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  • Captain CarrotCaptain Carrot Alexandria, VARegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Nobody's saying that Bright and Matheson have to vote our way all the time. However, all of the Democrats from Arkansas (Mike Ross) are against the public option, and their constituents are for it. Their seats are safe.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Scalia update: an asshole, but not a gigantic racist asshole. He was misquoted.

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  • The Crowing OneThe Crowing One Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    emnmnme wrote: »
    There are liberal Republicans? Does that mean there are also conservative Democrats?

    ummm... Blue Dogs?

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  • wwtMaskwwtMask Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Bright was an independent for 9 years in which he served as Montgomery's mayor, apparently doing a very good job. I'm not sure why he joined the dems last year.

    Didn't want to be in the minority, which is understandable because being a freshman congressman is tough enough as it is.

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Scalia update: an asshole, but not a gigantic racist asshole. He was misquoted.

    I like that. I'm gonna borrow it. Also, it's something of a relief to know he was misquoted. I mean, not in a "I like that guy don't be unfair" kind of way. But in a, "oh okay, our Supreme Court isn't as embarrassing" kind of way.

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  • jkylefultonjkylefulton Squid...or Kid? NNID - majpellRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
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  • GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009

    It's not. They had to pick an alternate target after people got out ahead of the impending SEIU demonization and made a firebreak.

    A, the AARP is full of old people, and old people vote in droves and vote Republican.
    B, the AARP is one of the most powerful lobbying groups in Washington and can easily defend itself with little to no outside support.
    C, ACORN and SEIU are organizations that, had they not been brought up in this context, have very low name recognition otherwise. EVERYBODY knows the AARP. They're much harder to define just on that.

    This is going to turn out disastrously badly. Let them take their shot.

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Gosling wrote: »

    It's not. They had to pick an alternate target after people got out ahead of the impending SEIU demonization and made a firebreak.

    A, the AARP is full of old people, and old people vote in droves and vote Republican.
    B, the AARP is one of the most powerful lobbying groups in Washington and can easily defend itself with little to no outside support.
    C, ACORN and SEIU are organizations that, had they not been brought up in this context, have very low name recognition otherwise. EVERYBODY knows the AARP. They're much harder to define just on that.

    This is going to turn out disastrously badly. Let them take their shot.

    It's like you know me! <3

    It's the usual thing people have been coming to expect, news wise. The reaches for offense measures is getting thinner, making much less sense, etc. I mostly want to see the backlash they're going to receive in alienating any constituents.

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  • wwtMaskwwtMask Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Gosling wrote: »

    It's not. They had to pick an alternate target after people got out ahead of the impending SEIU demonization and made a firebreak.

    A, the AARP is full of old people, and old people vote in droves and vote Republican.
    B, the AARP is one of the most powerful lobbying groups in Washington and can easily defend itself with little to no outside support.
    C, ACORN and SEIU are organizations that, had they not been brought up in this context, have very low name recognition otherwise. EVERYBODY knows the AARP. They're much harder to define just on that.

    This is going to turn out disastrously badly. Let them take their shot.
    Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.

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  • SpeakerSpeaker Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I think the question is whether they can bully AARP into quietly backing off their support of Democratic reforms.

    Maybe they can.

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  • DelzhandDelzhand Hard to miss. Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    wwtMask wrote: »
    Gosling wrote: »

    It's not. They had to pick an alternate target after people got out ahead of the impending SEIU demonization and made a firebreak.

    A, the AARP is full of old people, and old people vote in droves and vote Republican.
    B, the AARP is one of the most powerful lobbying groups in Washington and can easily defend itself with little to no outside support.
    C, ACORN and SEIU are organizations that, had they not been brought up in this context, have very low name recognition otherwise. EVERYBODY knows the AARP. They're much harder to define just on that.

    This is going to turn out disastrously badly. Let them take their shot.
    Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.

    The last line of the article makes me look forward to the days to come. "It's our turn"? Are we going to see an army of the eldery attacking the GOP?

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  • big lbig l Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Bright was an independent for 9 years in which he served as Montgomery's mayor, apparently doing a very good job. I'm not sure why he joined the dems last year.

    Because in 2008, there were tons of people pissed at Bush willing to vote against anybody with an R next to their name?

    Also, there aren't any liberal Republicans in Congress anymore because Dems or super-right wing primary challengers beat them in 2006 or 2008. Lots of those Blue Dog seats used to be Republican - moderate or mixed districts that switched from liberal Republican to Blue Dog.

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  • BamaBama Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Delzhand wrote: »
    The last line of the article makes me look forward to the days to come. "It's our turn"? Are we going to see an army of the eldery attacking the GOP?
    Grandma doesn't stand a chance against GOP Death Squads.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Speaker wrote: »
    I think the question is whether they can bully AARP into quietly backing off their support of Democratic reforms.

    Maybe they can.

    Bullying old people never seems to go well. They are old. And crotchety.

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  • BullioBullio Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Rep. Mike Pence - GOP douchebag of the day
    It is deeply offensive to their service and to millions of Americans to pile so-called 'hate crimes' legislation onto a bill that authorizes critical resources for our troops. Hate crimes legislation is antithetical to the First Amendment, unnecessary and will have a chilling effect on religious freedom.
    I'm not sure how legislation against hate crimes is offensive to the troops since the troops are fighting for the right of the people in this country to live true to themselves and not have to face persecution because they're gay, black, or whatever. Also, apparently committing a hate crime is an expression of religious freedom.

    http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/10/pence-obama-has-used-his-position-as-commander-in-chief-to-advance-a-radical-social-agenda.php

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  • NotYouNotYou Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Bullio wrote: »
    Rep. Mike Pence - GOP douchebag of the day
    It is deeply offensive to their service and to millions of Americans to pile so-called 'hate crimes' legislation onto a bill that authorizes critical resources for our troops. Hate crimes legislation is antithetical to the First Amendment, unnecessary and will have a chilling effect on religious freedom.
    I'm not sure how legislation against hate crimes is offensive to the troops since the troops are fighting for the right of the people in this country to live true to themselves and not have to face persecution because they're gay, black, or whatever. Also, apparently committing a hate crime is an expression of religious freedom.

    http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/10/pence-obama-has-used-his-position-as-commander-in-chief-to-advance-a-radical-social-agenda.php

    pffft, i thought our troops were fighting because we hate muslims!

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Bullio wrote: »
    Rep. Mike Pence - GOP douchebag of the day
    It is deeply offensive to their service and to millions of Americans to pile so-called 'hate crimes' legislation onto a bill that authorizes critical resources for our troops. Hate crimes legislation is antithetical to the First Amendment, unnecessary and will have a chilling effect on religious freedom.
    I'm not sure how legislation against hate crimes is offensive to the troops since the troops are fighting for the right of the people in this country to live true to themselves and not have to face persecution because they're gay, black, or whatever. Also, apparently committing a hate crime is an expression of religious freedom.

    http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/10/pence-obama-has-used-his-position-as-commander-in-chief-to-advance-a-radical-social-agenda.php

    Is he Westboro's liaison to the government or something?

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  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Bullio wrote: »
    Rep. Mike Pence - GOP douchebag of the day
    It is deeply offensive to their service and to millions of Americans to pile so-called 'hate crimes' legislation onto a bill that authorizes critical resources for our troops. Hate crimes legislation is antithetical to the First Amendment, unnecessary and will have a chilling effect on religious freedom.
    I'm not sure how legislation against hate crimes is offensive to the troops since the troops are fighting for the right of the people in this country to live true to themselves and not have to face persecution because they're gay, black, or whatever. Also, apparently committing a hate crime is an expression of religious freedom.

    http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/10/pence-obama-has-used-his-position-as-commander-in-chief-to-advance-a-radical-social-agenda.php

    Hate crime laws are another one of those things that are philosophically unsound but highly practical. Hate crimes traditionally are under-punished compared to non-hate crimes, so laws are made to arbitrarily make them worse. They're the criminal law equivalent of affirmative action.

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  • CervetusCervetus Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Of all the pathetic invocations of Amendment rights I've seen, I think that takes the cake.

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  • Irond WillIrond Will WARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!! Cambridge. MAModerator mod
    edited October 2009
    I hate the AARP. I hope they and the GOP destroy each other.

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  • ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Irond Will wrote: »
    I hate the AARP. I hope they and the GOP destroy each other.

    If you ever need support for a short-sighted plan that will ultimately fuck over future generations, the AARP's got your back!

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Let the AARP smack the GOP around for a while, then close up the Country Kitchen Buffet before they get too powerful.

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  • sterling3763sterling3763 Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Hey video game enthusiasts! Have I got a new game for you.

    Oh, sure it's crazy, but it's not mainstream. But it is being advertised on Drudge. If you refresh a few times you can see it for yourself.

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  • Donkey KongDonkey Kong For Workgroups Version 3.11 Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    So this is the conservative answer to "George W. Bush was the worst president in history".

    STAY CLASSY POLITICAL NUTJOBS.

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  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    heh, how do you play it?

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  • PantsBPantsB Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Dyscord wrote: »
    heh, how do you play it?
    It would almost be worth it to have PA flood it with a group called Poe's lAw and have Obama's evil nazi forces win

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  • RedTideRedTide Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Dyscord wrote: »
    heh, how do you play it?

    Use your powers of cognitive dissonance!

    You might be sitting in your trailer at the moment, staring blankly at a computer monitor while wearing some piece of Nascar merchandise with a fast food sheen to your skin, but you think you're saving America!

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  • HamHamJHamHamJ Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Hey video game enthusiasts! Have I got a new game for you.

    Oh, sure it's crazy, but it's not mainstream. But it is being advertised on Drudge. If you refresh a few times you can see it for yourself.

    I... what...

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  • PantsBPantsB Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    RedTide wrote: »
    Dyscord wrote: »
    heh, how do you play it?

    Use your powers of cognitive dissonance!

    You might be sitting in your trailer at the moment, staring blankly at a computer monitor while wearing some piece of Nascar merchandise with a fast food sheen to your skin, but you think you're saving America!

    Special prizes if you're from VA, NJ or NY-23 and you play continuously next Tuesday during voting hours!

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