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Awkward Breakup Situation - How do I deal? (Awful Update!)

MurphyMurphy Registered User regular
edited November 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
I have been trying all day to write this, and I keep ending up with pages and pages of stuff, which you guys don't want to read, and I don't want to ask you to read.

The basics: I'm gay and 31. I'm reasonably handsome, and a pretty nice guy. A year and a half ago I met a guy online, moved from SW Ohio to NE Ohio to live with him, and changed my entire life to better fit into his. Things didn't turn out the way either of us expected. The relationship was rocky, and possibly abusive. I feel now that in a way I was systematically sublimated by his will. Many arguments were had. About a week ago he broke up with me, and now, at least for the time being, I have to live with the guy until I can strike out on my own. This is going to take a couple of months, due to financial circumstances that I'd be happy to go into detail in if you wish. In the meantime I have no life of my own. I gave up everything about myself when I met him, even though I didn't realize it while it was happening. I feel incredibly awkward being around him, because he's not exactly making it easy. I've asked him if he could do me the courtesy of not moving on while I'm still living there, but his response was pretty noncommital.

I'm going this week to get a gym membership to give me something to do after work. But beyond that I have no friends, and no support network up here. I have few things, because I sold most of them when I moved. I don't even have a car that is entirely my own. I have given up gaming, sold all of my books, stopped watching the shows I used to love, and I have virtually no idea of who I even am anymore. Except possibly kind of a loser. He still wants to hang out with me, and be pals, but I have been finding it very difficult. Last Friday we went out with mutual friends (who were his friends before we met), and got very drunk. He flirted with me, which he later admitted was a mistake, I suggested tried to initiate sex, and he reponded in the most dismissive and cruel way possible. So on top of being broken up about our break up, now I'm humiliated as well.

How do I deal with this? How do I live with him while I get out? How do I find a life for myself when I'm at square one? I tried having a random hookup over the weekend to get my mind off of things, but I couldn't go through with it. I'm just not ready. So mostly I hang out in what was our room and is now just mine, and read, and try and avoid him. But it's impossible to do all of the time, and I hate it. I just want to get away, but that's not possible, so I have to figure out how to man up and just deal with things.

So anyway, I hope some of you have some suggestions. I am more than happy to elaborate on any of the scant details I've provided, and I think some of it really would illuminate things better, but I didn't want to write a fucking book for you kind folks in H&A.

How do I deal?

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  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I'd say #1 would be getting the hell out of there.

    There's no one you can crash with besides him; anyone from "down south" you could move in with? Family? If not, I guess just save up and get out of there asap. Can you work more hours, or maybe grab a PT job instead of paying for the gym.

    Other than that, just reember that stuff really doesn't define a person. That is, you talk about your games and tv shows and things, and while that's important to you, that's not really who you are.

    Also don't try to initiate anything with him. You're only going to get hurt again. I know it's tough, but that ship has sailed, so don't try to catch it again.

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  • DanMachDanMach Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Friend of mine went through something similar last year. He split up with his girlfriend but they were stuck in a lease for the rest of the year.

    Here are some tips:

    1. Work out. It gets you out of the house and will make you feel good.
    2. Find a *FRIEND* to go drinking with/play golf/stare at guys with/whatever. Just something to distract you.
    3. Try NOT to hook up with the ex. It makes it a lot easier.


    Try and remember that you will come out the other side of this a BETTER person. It won't be some life ruining crippling thing unless you let it. You made a mistake, big whoop. Ignorance is something best battled by making mistakes.

    Its good times.

    Try and stay calm :)

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  • MurphyMurphy Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    MichaelLC wrote: »
    I'd say #1 would be getting the hell out of there.

    There's no one you can crash with besides him; anyone from "down south" you could move in with? Family? If not, I guess just save up and get out of there asap. Can you work more hours, or maybe grab a PT job instead of paying for the gym.

    Absolutely. That is plan #1. I only started this new job, and it's really good, and I don't want to leave it. So I have to stick it out, or I would have been gone already. He gave me until the end of the year to find my own place. I am paid well, but it's just not something I can do instantly. The gym is a trifle out of my paycheck every month, and it will give me something to do outside of the house that is all mine.
    Other than that, just reember that stuff really doesn't define a person. That is, you talk about your games and tv shows and things, and while that's important to you, that's not really who you are.

    And I know this. It's just that I have realized that I don't even know who I am anymore. I spent the past week doing nothing at all, because all of the things that I used to do before I met him, I don't do anymore. I've mostly been moping, which isn't productive, and doesn't pass the time very well.
    Also don't try to initiate anything with him. You're only going to get hurt again. I know it's tough, but that ship has sailed, so don't try to catch it again.

    Yeah, that was a huge fucking mistake. It'll never happen again. I've never felt so unattractive and creepy as he made me feel just then. I won't forget it anytime soon.

    edit: DanMach - That's the plan. I just don't even know where to start with finding a friend. I don't really know anyone at work, but I'm trying to cultivate some friendships there. I mostly work with women who are married, and most are older than me, so that's not really a useful avenue. All of the friends I have right now are his friends first and foremost, and they don't want to be involved, nor do I want to involve them in this. I just have to find someone to spend time with that isn't a new relationship prospect and isn't related to him in any way.

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  • DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Murphy wrote: »

    edit: DanMach - That's the plan. I just don't even know where to start with finding a friend. I don't really know anyone at work, but I'm trying to cultivate some friendships there. I mostly work with women who are married, and most are older than me, so that's not really a useful avenue. All of the friends I have right now are his friends first and foremost, and they don't want to be involved, nor do I want to involve them in this. I just have to find someone to spend time with that isn't a new relationship prospect and isn't related to him in any way.

    You're gay. Try manhunt.
    My roommate is gay and I thought I was good at teh interwebz, but apparently manhunt is some sort of gay secret facebook thing.

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  • MurphyMurphy Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Manhunt isn't really for finding friends. Unless you mean friends who you wish to see naked.

    Not that it doesn't have it's uses. I tried to give that side of things a shot this weekend, to poor results. I just didn't have it in me.

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  • DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Murphy wrote: »
    Manhunt isn't really for finding friends. Unless you mean friends who you wish to see naked.

    o_O

    I was lied to!

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  • MurphyMurphy Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I mean, I'm sure some people make friends on there, but seriously. It's a hook up site almost exclusively. most people don't even have face pics. They have pics of...other stuff.

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  • eternalbleternalbl Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Would it be possible for you to start getting back into the stuff you gave up to be with this guy?

    Pick up some books, games, seasons of TV shows you need to catch up on?

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  • ForarForar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    eternalbl wrote: »
    Would it be possible for you to start getting back into the stuff you gave up to be with this guy?

    Pick up some books, games, seasons of TV shows you need to catch up on?

    I was thinking this exactly.

    Depending on what you were into in terms of gaming, that might be a bit prohibitively expensive to pick back up while saving for a place of your own, but snagging some books off Amazon is a good way to save cash (or just hitting a used book store, but I like that new book feel) and/or some seasons of older shows on DVD can be a good way to kill some time in the evenings.

    Kudos on the gym membership; be sure to put it to use. Heavy use. It'll keep you occupied, make you look and feel better about yourself, and let you find an outlet for any emotions (positive or negative alike).

    And in the name of all that is good and right, don't be that guy and just jump into another relationship or throw yourself on the market. If you did get taken for a figurative ride by some asshole, spend a little time finding your balance again. Be happy as you are, enjoy the freedom of being single and do some introspection to figure out what you learned from this adventure.

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  • PongePonge Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Maybe you can't move out into your own place right now but could you not find someone who needs a flatmate? I can't imagine rent would be any more than you're paying to share with the current guy.

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  • MurphyMurphy Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Actually, to his credit, I'm here rent free at the moment. To better expedite my leaving.

    And yeah, I don't want to be that guy. I won't be looking for romance again anytime soon. Which sucks, because when I met him, and for a very long time after, I really thought he was the guy I was going to be with long-term. It's what I wanted.

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  • desperaterobotsdesperaterobots perth, ausRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    What an awful story.

    Personally, I would be borrowing money to get myself a place of my own, or looking for places to share asap. Being around that energy is totally crushing. Do you have a time line?

    And, you might feel like you don't really know who you are any more, but that sense of self will come back, especially once you're out of there. Things must be really raw at the moment, but you'll be fine. You might have an awful moment where you're sitting in a room/apartment with nothing but a bed and a suitcase, but just remember that it's a starting point for something better!

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  • MurphyMurphy Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Last night as I'm making dinner and he's hanging out in the kitchen for some reason, he's like "I'm really going to miss this." Why does he do shit like this? He broke up with me. What the hell do I say to something like that?

    I just mumbled something about how, yeah, it was going to be tough.

    If I had someone I could borrow money from, I would. But my parents are of no help, and I try not to tell them about my personal problems anyway. They don't want to hear it, becuase of the whole gay thing.

    My timeline should get me out be December. Which, you know, Merry Christmas to me. But how worse would it be to spend Christmas with him but not with him? I don't even want to think about it.

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  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Just a random thought here - Does he know your passwords, and/or are you un-checking 'Remember Me' for here, your email, etc.?

    Seems like something someone like that would do.

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  • MurphyMurphy Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    It was something he did when we used to share a computer. But he doesn't know the sites I visit anymore, and doesn't know any of my passowords (and my macbook is password protected). He locks everything of his to keep things from me, and has for some time. Even his iPhone is locked so I can't see who he is texting all the damn time. Not that I'm trying to look, but he still feels the need to be secretive about it.

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  • adytumadytum The Inevitable Rise And FallRegistered User regular
    edited August 2011
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  • MurphyMurphy Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    adytum wrote: »
    I don't know how it is in Ohio, but where I live (major metropolitan area) it's easy to meet people... if you're gay. The gay community is quite active and there are multiple areas downtown that are either exclusively gay venues, or have a significant number of gay venues.

    Try some activities? I know I've gone with gay friends to do things like karaoke where it's quite easy to make friends if you're outgoing. Also, if you're reasonably attractive as you say, any happy hour will get you hit on.

    For general ideas.. try joining some sports leagues? Around here kickball and softball are the big two. Kickball I know is cheap ($65 or so) and you can meet some really fun people there. Some of my friends are actually on an all-gay kickball team and seem to have a lot of fun. Also, maybe take classes at your local community college or state uni? That would be cheap and take a lot of your spare time, and be a good way to meet some new people.

    Cooking classes would also be a good place to try, especially if you like cooking.

    And as a last resort, one of my friends moved to Manhattan about 2 years ago now, and when he didn't have anyone to hang out with, he just posted an ad on Craiglist saying "I live in X neighborhood, I'm new to the city, looking for someone to hang out with."

    Of course he hooked up with the guy that responded to that, but they're still friends, and live nearby to eachother!

    That's one of the more frustrating things about my situation, actually. We already are part of a bowling league, a softball league in the summer, and we play in a few gay card tournaments locally. So at any of those outlets, he's already there.

    If I lived in one of the larger cities (Cleveland or Columbus perhaps), I would have a lot more outlets. But I live in Canton. We have one gay bar here, and it's pretty awful. There just aren't that many gay people in the immediate area. Akron is a little better, but it's still not great.

    School is certainly an option, but right now those classes will require money that I really can't spend until I find my own place. But it's definitely something I'm going to look into for the future.

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  • desperaterobotsdesperaterobots perth, ausRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Credit cards. Personal loans. I don't know if they are options open to you right now, but your parents might not be your only line of credit. This guy is a fuckbag and you should leave as soon as you can.

    I was kicked out of home around Christmas and enjoyed a delicious festive lunch of hot dogs with mustard in a half-empty house. If I can do it, you can do it too!

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  • moocowmoocow Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Assuming you don't have heavy debts (since you have no car or mortgage), and assuming this rad job of yours is full time (if it's part time, it is not a rad job), you should definitely just try to find a person looking for a boarder or roommate or flatmate or whatever you want to call it. It can't be that expensive to rent a room. Just get outta there!

    Craigslist it or bulletin boards at your gym or other gathering places could have fliers.

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  • MurphyMurphy Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    So awful update!

    Yesterday on my way home from work, I got a call from the agency that found me my awesome job (and it was awesome - good pay, free health benefits, 401k that automatically got 15% of my pay contributed by the company with no contribution from me, etc.), and apparently, the company has decided not to keep me on. Their reasons were very vague, and I'm still kind of reeling from the fact that it happened, and the way that it happened.

    Everything I knew told me that they loved me there. Every time I checked in with my boss, she told me that everything was great, and not to worry, because if there was any problem she'd let me know. People from other departments talked about how well everything seemed to be going for me. They didn't even tell me face to face. They called on the phone as I was driving home. I wasn't even given a chance to clear out my desk.

    So now what the fuck do I do? This was the one saving grace I had, and now I don't have it. Last night the ex and I went to the Cavalier's season opening (they lost, which sucked), and he, after hearing that I'd lost my job, told me I didn't have to pay for the ticket. I thought he was doing it because he felt bad. But then when I bought a beer for myself (to feel like a normal person, and yeah, expensive, and yeah, I know I should be focused on saving everything), he lectured me for the rest of the night, told me he wanted money for the ticket now, and that I was a big disappointment. So I gave him that money this morning. I'm scrambling now, trying to find something else, but it took me a year to find this last job.

    God, this is just so awful.

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  • DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Murphy wrote: »
    So awful update!

    Yesterday on my way home from work, I got a call from the agency that found me my awesome job (and it was awesome - good pay, free health benefits, 401k that automatically got 15% of my pay contributed by the company with no contribution from me, etc.), and apparently, the company has decided not to keep me on. Their reasons were very vague, and I'm still kind of reeling from the fact that it happened, and the way that it happened.

    Sorry to here it bro. :(

    But then when I bought a beer for myself (to feel like a normal person, and yeah, expensive, and yeah, I know I should be focused on saving everything), he lectured me for the rest of the night, told me he wanted money for the ticket now, and that I was a big disappointment.

    That was fucking stupid. Did you get your roommate a beer too? If not that was inconsiderate, spendthrift, and stupid. I would have laid into you too.

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  • PasserbyePasserbye I am much older than you. in Beach CityRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Deebaser wrote: »
    That was fucking stupid. Did you get your roommate a beer too? If not that was inconsiderate, spendthrift, and stupid. I would have laid into you too.

    After the crap his ex has put him through, no, I wouldn't have bought him a beer either.

    That said, doing things like getting gym memberships and beer at a game is probably not the best plan when your financial situation is bad. Stick to the essentials, you may have to put up with being uncomfortable for a while.

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  • MurphyMurphy Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    My thought process was that one beer wasn't going to make or break me. And he'd already bought himself three, so I didn't get him one. I just wanted to feel like a normal person for a couple more hours, but clearly that was pretty dumb of me.

    Obviously the gym membership isn't happening now. Nor is much of anything else.

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  • witch_iewitch_ie Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I think this is a great opportunity for you to take what savings you have and move back or to a place where you have real friends or family who will lend you a couch until you get back on your feet.

    Also, you should not be spending money (yours or anyone else's) on entertainment at this point, unless there is an understanding between you and the other person.

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  • adytumadytum The Inevitable Rise And FallRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Murphy wrote: »
    My thought process was that one beer wasn't going to make or break me. And he'd already bought himself three, so I didn't get him one. I just wanted to feel like a normal person for a couple more hours, but clearly that was pretty dumb of me.

    Obviously the gym membership isn't happening now. Nor is much of anything else.

    You should really consider not hanging out with your ex socially, especially when it's just the two of you.

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  • Bliss 101Bliss 101 Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    You need to get away from that person as soon as possible. Apparently he's emotionally abusive, and by hanging out with him you risk going from "bad breakup" to "traumatized for life". Can't you move in with your parents for a while? From the sound of things, pretty much any imaginable living arrangement (with the possible exception of living under a bridge with hobos) would be healthier for you.

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  • MurphyMurphy Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Yeah, I'm seriously considering moving back to Cincinnati and couch surfing while looking for work.

    I didn't want to go to the game. He insisted. When I balked at it, he offered to pay for the ticket, just so I would go. It wasn't that I couldn't pay for it, but rather that I didn't want to go with him because I thought it would be awkward. Which it ended up being. I regret buying the beer, but I can't take it back. it was my last splurge.

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  • HeartlashHeartlash Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Deebaser wrote: »
    But then when I bought a beer for myself (to feel like a normal person, and yeah, expensive, and yeah, I know I should be focused on saving everything), he lectured me for the rest of the night, told me he wanted money for the ticket now, and that I was a big disappointment.

    That was fucking stupid. Did you get your roommate a beer too? If not that was inconsiderate, spendthrift, and stupid. I would have laid into you too.

    Um, what? I disagree and understand exactly why the OP would want to buy a beer in that situation.

    OP, your ex does not sound like a good person for you to be around. I know it's a difficult situation right now, but you may want to consider any pragmatic way you can just get out of there. Look for a sublet, buy a cheap bus ticket, head someplace familiar that doesn't involve him and start re-establishing your individual identity and self-esteem.

    Being laid off suck, especially in that manner, but I've seen plenty of people bounce back from it. Sometimes it's even for the best, it makes it easier to start anew.

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  • HeartlashHeartlash Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Murphy wrote: »
    Yeah, I'm seriously considering moving back to Cincinnati and couch surfing while looking for work.

    I didn't want to go to the game. He insisted. When I balked at it, he offered to pay for the ticket, just so I would go. It wasn't that I couldn't pay for it, but rather that I didn't want to go with him because I thought it would be awkward. Which it ended up being. I regret buying the beer, but I can't take it back. it was my last splurge.

    Seriously, forget about the beer, if he has a fit over you buying something that costs $6 he's full of shit.

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  • MurphyMurphy Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    It didn't surprise me. Our two problems have always been money on his part and jealousy on my part, because he always wanted sex outside the relationship. So I should have known that he would expect me not to spend a penny. He also didn't really want to pay for the ticket, he says, which at this point he hasn't, because I gave him the money. He doesn't want to pay for anything. Ever.

    I'm torn. I mean, moving back to Cincinnati is, in the first place, a huge expense. I have to either sell the rest of my things and get a ride down there somehow (bus ticket, friend, etc.), or rent a truck and move everything down there and put it in storage somewhere. If I can find a job in short order up here. Any job, really, I can stay here until I can find a place, and move out on my own.

    But man is being here difficult. He constantly noses into everything I do, but is incredibly secretive about what he's doing with himself. He came home from work for a half day today, ostensibly to work on a paper for his grad school class, but he hasn't done anything remotely like that. I think he was coming home to hook up with someone, and I threw a wrench in things by getting fired. So he's been kind of surly all day.

    He told me a bit ago that he knows things are probably tough for me, but I should really stop being so self-centered try and think about how hard this will all be for him. Because now I have to move away most likely, and that's going to be really hard on him.

    I didn't really have a response to that.

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  • DeathPrawnDeathPrawn Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    If you just get up and leave right now you will need to find a job, you will need money, you will need a place to stay, and you will need to find friends/activities to rebuild your life.

    Every moment you don't leave and still live with this guy, all of these problems still exist. Your financial situation isn't quite as bad as it would be, but in exchange you have to deal with the mountainload of stress and tension that comes with being under the same roof as this asshole. If you can find a job in short order where you are, you can find one in Cincinnati.

    You need to get out of there ASAP.

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  • FireflashFireflash Montreal, QCRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    This guy seems incredibly self-centered and gets off on still having a partial control over you. Staying close to him will only bring you bad things.

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  • adytumadytum The Inevitable Rise And FallRegistered User regular
    edited August 2011
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  • MurphyMurphy Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Well, according to our last conversation, he wants me out in a week now anyway, so my options have been reduced to going to Cincinnati anyway.

    I don't have much stuff, really. Just my bed, and bedside tables, my laptop (which I should hold onto for job hunting), and my clothes. I sold most of my stuff (furniture, books, music, movies, games, 360, PS3, etc.) when I moved up here. I have some old comics that I've been trying to unload for years, so selling them seems unlikely. Still, I'm going to see what I can do.

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  • kedinikkedinik Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    He's a bastard for the beer situation; you were totally in the right to relax with a small purchase, and he was way out of line to retroactively charge you for a gift and lecture you.

    He's also a bastard for emotionally manipulating you; seriously, he dumps you, then you lose your job, and then he tells you to stop being self-centered and think of him more?

    Good riddance; I'm sorry that the break-up is hard for you, but I bet he didn't treat you much better even when things were good and in the long run it's for the best.

    Best of luck finding a place to stay and getting back on your feet, man.

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  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    The guy is an arse. Next time he says it's going to be hard, ask him "Compared to what? Actually moving? Or being dumped? Or some kind of combination of the two?"

    Where is your last paycheck going to?

    That is going straight to a one way bus ticket. Call up a friend in Cinci explain your situation tell him that you need to crash for a bit. Sell everything you can in the next week and leave it. Stick as many clothes as you can into second hand rucksacks or duffel bags you pick up from craigslist. And get on your Bus.

    Do you have any family you can contact?

    Also as a point if shit really turns sour is your name actually on the lease as it doesn't matter that you aren't paying rent there as long as you are on the lease you can stay.

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  • MurphyMurphy Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Thankfully it won't have to come to that. My ex has offered to drive me to Cincinnati if needs be, with as much stuff as we can pack into his Jetta as possible. Or my friend in Cincinnati can come up to get me. I just feel like it's all way too fast. Yeah, the situation here sucks, but there are some things I'm going to miss. I am not even being given a chance to find another job. Which is possibly for the best, but it's so hard to see that right now.

    And yeah, I have been biting my tongue a lot. This isn't hard on him at all. The only tough thing is that I'm here, and he doesn't want me to be, and he can't hook up to his heart's content while I'm still around.

    edit: I contacted my parents. They were basically like "Oh, that's sad news. So anyway, your father has a cold right now. It's so terrible. And your sister, man, is she a handful. So anyway, the other day I was at the store and..."

    That's about what I expected.

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  • PellaeonPellaeon Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Ask the friend from cincinnatti, don't deal with the ex.

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  • MurphyMurphy Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    There is some appeal to making him take me back there. Putting the miles on his car, spending the money on gas, having to actually do the work involved in getting rid of me instead of letting someone else take care of it.

    Petty? Sure. But I think it's small change compared to the shit he's pulled.

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  • starmanbrandstarmanbrand Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I think it's funny how pretty much all the advice in the thread has been "get away from your ex, stop dealing with him, just stop please stop"

    But then you went to a basketball game with him. Talk to him often. Want him to drive you somewhere.

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