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End of the Unviverse!
emnmnme
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There's nothing wrong with a villain who can lift boulders or control dozens of minds simultaneously - a good supervillain has to put up a good fight, right? - but I think comic book writers in general get a little goofy when they whip up villains that can destroy/devour/alter all of existence. Usually, these almighty evildoers pop up for big events that are pretty damn weak compared to normal stories and, of course, these cosmic baddies are destined to fail because, obviously, no more comic book universe means no more comic book characters from that universe.
In my opinion, the industry shouldn't invent anymore of these all-powerful types for a number of reasons. For starters, threatening galaxies passes some unmarked threshold for readers where they can't wrap their heads around how much destruction is happening. There's not much of a difference when a god-villain waves his hand and snuffs out ten planets versus another who snuffs out fifteen besides numbers. Also, these guys tend to be clones of one another, all driven in purpose yet slightly mad. The story's been told and retold - the formula is perfected. Finally, do all these galaxy smashing fiends tolerate each other? Does Mephisto play golf with Galactus on Tuesdays? Does the Specter not care that Imperiex Prime is attempting to end everything? Even when these big guys do fight one another, the fights are lame, usually seen from the perspective of a regular hero. It reminds me of how the climactic fight in Clash of the Titans was a disappointment with just one 'punch' thrown.
To make a point, help me out and let's list all the Big Fish out there that threaten the universe. There not as rare as you'd think. If they can crack more than a few planets in half, they belong on the list.
You've got Parallax, Thanos with his magic glove, and Galactus to start.
In my opinion, the industry shouldn't invent anymore of these all-powerful types for a number of reasons. For starters, threatening galaxies passes some unmarked threshold for readers where they can't wrap their heads around how much destruction is happening. There's not much of a difference when a god-villain waves his hand and snuffs out ten planets versus another who snuffs out fifteen besides numbers. Also, these guys tend to be clones of one another, all driven in purpose yet slightly mad. The story's been told and retold - the formula is perfected. Finally, do all these galaxy smashing fiends tolerate each other? Does Mephisto play golf with Galactus on Tuesdays? Does the Specter not care that Imperiex Prime is attempting to end everything? Even when these big guys do fight one another, the fights are lame, usually seen from the perspective of a regular hero. It reminds me of how the climactic fight in Clash of the Titans was a disappointment with just one 'punch' thrown.
To make a point, help me out and let's list all the Big Fish out there that threaten the universe. There not as rare as you'd think. If they can crack more than a few planets in half, they belong on the list.
You've got Parallax, Thanos with his magic glove, and Galactus to start.
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EDIT: Oh, is that purple guy that popped out of Adam Warlock still around? He stole the Infinity Gauntlet but I only remember him from a comic I bought back in middle school.
edit: it was a moon, but still, dude can do it:
The Magus, yeah, he just showed up again recently in Guardians of the Galaxy...
So, yeah, dunno if he'll ever come back.
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That was before Infinite Crisis around 2000, so they might have.
Then again, one of the first things Busiek did when he took over after IC was make Superman super-smart again which was something that was a pre-COIE trait.
He just really didn't want Luthor to win. That's the strongest I've seen him outside of saving reality in Final Crisis (he did save the day in Our Worlds At War but he did so by flying into the sun and sitting there for a bit to be Super-Duper Superman which was really kewl)
Pretty much any of Galactus' former heralds fall into that category. Tenebrous and Aegis from Annihilation. Celestials. Probably any of the reality shapers can count so Beyonder and Scarlet Witch and Proteus.
Over in DC we haven't mentioned Monarch.
Therefor, DOOM.
Oh, and this weird Krona guy popped up out of nowhere.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krona_%28comics%29
And what was the deal with the Monitors and the anti-Monitor? They just wanted to blow shit up?
I really just want a year of nothing but bank robbers, industrial saboteurs, and other working-class villains. I feel like superhero comics have gotten to the point where every confrontation has to be life or death. But by trying to sustain that level of conflict for so long, it seems that the promise of life or death stakes has lost some of its power and oomph.
One of the very few things I enjoyed about Spider-Man's Brand New Day was the return to villains that wanted things besides murderous revenge.
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I'm willing to meet in the middle here.
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You're talking about Magus, the future version of Adam Warlock from an erased timeline. He engineered the reformation of the Infinity Guantlet by manipulating the Infinity Watch, Thanos, a whole bunch of cosmic deities, and Earth's super heroes. There was also his opposite number, the Goddess, who used cosmic containment units to try to take over the universe and eliminate all evil. Incidentally, Adam Warlock recently turned into the Magus, and his story is a part of this whole Realm of Kings storyline playing out in the cosmic corner of Marvel.
THEY'RE NEVER COMING BACK
None of the bodies came back in the teleporter chamber soooo
Also yes to Gamora being dead
Magus chopped her head off, it's kinda off to the side by Drax in the panel after Peter shoots Adam
I actually forgot that too, Texiken. There she is, lying there at the end.
"Did you _honestly_ believe that a 5th Dimensional sorcerer would resemble a funny little man in a derby hat?"
I feel the same way about cosmic beings. As the cliche goes, they were slumbering in an asteroid or an alternate dimension and POP! time to devour the stars.
I wonder how long it will be for Mistress Death to get back into the game. Then again, she and Thanos mighty be . . . busy for the time being.