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WTF Spawn?
DoctorErebus
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Let's begin with full disclosure. Back in high school, I was unaware that Todd McFarlane was a bloodless hack. So I misspent an awful lot of money reading Spawn. Around issue #50, it hit me that I was wasting $1.95 a month, so I stopped. But every now and again, I'd get curious as to what old Al Simmons was up to. Since it always seemed the same superhero boilerplate shot through some crazy Canadian Heavy Metal prism, i never picked the book back up.
But I heard that issue #163 was the last one. So I gave it a read, and I'm quite confused. Is the series over or not? I saw that issue #164 is on the way, but I can't make heads or tails of the book's intentions. All spawn.com wished to provide me was action figure ads. Just what's the deal with this title?
So if there are any McFarlane fans more loyal than I available to shed some light on this quandry, I would be most grateful. Outside of discovering that Tony Harris drew thirty or so issues, I doubt I'll ever go digging for back issues to piece the story and the future of the book together. But at the same time, I'm quite curious as to what's been going on in the book that once dominated the industry.
Bonus points for sorting out this whole "Man of Miracles" business round about issue #150.
But I heard that issue #163 was the last one. So I gave it a read, and I'm quite confused. Is the series over or not? I saw that issue #164 is on the way, but I can't make heads or tails of the book's intentions. All spawn.com wished to provide me was action figure ads. Just what's the deal with this title?
So if there are any McFarlane fans more loyal than I available to shed some light on this quandry, I would be most grateful. Outside of discovering that Tony Harris drew thirty or so issues, I doubt I'll ever go digging for back issues to piece the story and the future of the book together. But at the same time, I'm quite curious as to what's been going on in the book that once dominated the industry.
Bonus points for sorting out this whole "Man of Miracles" business round about issue #150.
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Oh my god
That sounds horrible.
Like, "let's ignore half the cast and anything present in the themes of the book" horrible.
Christ.
Just read the ending spoilers...I guess at this point in the series the writers don't care about anything other then making sure that Spawn wins all fanboy internet VS rants for the next century. Seriously...what??!!?
But, just cuz you asked, here's the deal with the Man of Miracles:
[spoiler:54a908f6f3]The Man of Miracles is the real creator of the universe and everything in it. He's really an androgynous being known as Mother, or 'MoM', who has supreme power over all things. MoM created hundreds of worlds and put hundreds of her children in charge of them, and finally created Earth and put God and Satan on it to rule together. Instead, they started fighting one another. In order to resolve things, MoM removes them both temporarily from their respective kingdoms and schemes to turn Spawn into a new deity to rule the Earth, as he embodies the potential of what mankind can become when given the chance.
Personally, I find the idea that God and Satan, the forces that have been locked in cosmic combat since issue 1, are nothing more than unruly children utterly disappointing. The idea that the Hell we've been shown in the books, a realm that's more metaphysical that real, a vast layered wasteland of seething misery and despair incomprehensible to humankind, is basically a crib to some tantrum-throwing child is a real blow. Sometimes I don't know why I bother with this book reall, *sniff*, when it can't even treat me half-way decently...[/spoiler:54a908f6f3]
Spawn has vast magical powers. In the issues before issue #50, Spawn had a limited power supply or "9999".
Oh my god. It's OVER 9000!!!
lollin on line over here
Unless the $10 mil is going towards the Sam and Twitch movie, I don't know what the hell he would be thinking.
The first movie had a $40,000,000 budget, and well, remember the first one?
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i remember watching one of those 'greatest comic book characters' list things on like a&e and mcfarlane described spawn as 'batman if batman wasn't owned by the big corporations...if you hurt women or children he will cut your head off'
edit- i mean, come on, he liked crash
Yes.
Just got the most recent issue and:
[spoiler:19a0821f7d]Yep, everything got undone and is back to normal now. And Spawn's human again, going to go and win Wanda back, etc. This is like the 3rd time that's happened too. They've got at least another 4 issues planned though and the Clown is in them, so this can't really be the end of things.[/spoiler:19a0821f7d]
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Does Spawn even have a story, or is it just a monthly design forum for action figures?
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I mean, they're publishing Phonogram, Casanova, Pirates of Coney Island, Girls, Cross Bronx, Fell, Fear Agent, Hysteria, Walking Dead, they put out the first two volumes of Flight, the Five Fists of Science TPB, and more, I'm sure. They're approaching Vertigo in terms of being a creator-owned haven.
The only book that I even kinda-sorta like in that snapshot list is Fell, and I was never a huge fan of the series despite being an Ellis fan. But, you do have a point. I guess I didn't notice that Image was actually publishing those titles. Kind of like how I forgot that Wildstorm was a separate imprint way back before they started making a big deal about the WSU. I guess I'm just dumb that way.
Wow. You guys should really stop comparing me to this guy.
HAW! pretty stupid considering SPAWN is pretty much owned by a huge corporation
SPAWN, now remember everything cool about Batman, take that away, and add a huge helping of suck.
IMAGE puts out some real good comics. My personal favorites are GodLand, Invincible, and Walking Dead.
IMAGE is also set up different than MARVEL and DC, meaning they don't have to sell huge numbers to make a profit or be able to pay the creative teams on the books.
though I admit, SPAWN is one of the worst books I've ever read.
McFarlane - toymaker hack behaving just like Marvel did when he was calling them out. Silvestri - Licensed books and mashing manga into cyberforce. Liefeld - Living joke. Not even Alan Moore could save his storylines. Jim Lee - sold out to DC.
I get the feeling I'm forgetting a couple. Jim Valentino is still tangentially involved with Shadowhawk. But the ONLY ONE of those original creators still living the Image dream is the mighty Erik Larsen. Back then, he declared he would write and draw 100+ issues of the Savage Dragon. And by gum. he's done it! In fact, he's taken over lettering the title as well. Soon as he learns to color, reckon that book'll be a one-man band.
Goddamn it, I want this. Where do I find it?!
I actually heard a rumor that Larsen, following a meeting with Dave Sim where he was irked by the creator's arrogance and bad attitude, decided he would surpass Sim's 300 issue record that he's so proud of.
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Damn, I hope this is true. It'll take 40-50 more years at that current Dragon publishing rate, but I'd still enjoy it.
needs repeating
I guess that would be cool, but Sim is so certifiably nuts, and has opinions on things so much more profoundly ugly than the importance of his comic, that doing so seems kinda pointless to me.
Gen13, if I remember correctly. I never really read any Image though; not the good stuff anyway
I was actually just sort of being a dick about how a lot of the really indie titles tend to deal predominantly with issues of race/culture, or homosexuality/sexuality in general. I'm exagerrating a lot though.
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