Worms HD on XBox Live Arcade

Squirminator2k

Have a YouTube video, which was up on GameTrailers but had apparently been placed up too early and has since been taken down. Glod bless YouTube, even if it is rather crap quality-wise.

So far it looks very similar to the PSP version of Worms: Open Warfare, with a few elements from Worms Armageddon thrown in for good measure. It's apparently coming out very soon, judging by the PR build-up (Live Arcade games seem to get a short burst of PR right before their launch, rather than lots and lots and lots and lots of PR).

Any thoughts?

Six

Assuming they don't unconscionably botch this, it will instantly be my favorite XBLA game.

Squirminator2k

Well it's very much based on the PSP version of Worms: Open Warfare, which is currently the only game I play for the console (and, I believe, the only halfway decent handheld Worms game ever).

arcath

I am currently awaiting this title.

maybe this will provide me with the reason to finally pack up my dreamcast.

Six

I haven't played Open Warfare so I can't comment on that, other than to say it was botched unconscionably by not including online play (it doesn't include online play, right?)

Nothing short of a fantastic online experience will satisfy my craving. I've read this will have 8-player Live play, so that's a start. I demand a decent lobby system and a lot of levels.

This game would be so easy to get right. The meat of the game is alredy there. Just don't screw it up.

JerikTelorian

I'm not sure how I'd feel about playing it on anything that isn't a PC. None of the 3D games impressed me even the slightest bit.

Though, that video did bring back memories. Worms 2 was the first game I even played over the web, against someone I didn't know. Doom takes the title at the first game I ever played over a wire. Good times.

Squirminator2k

JerikTelorian wrote:

I'm not sure how I'd feel about playing it on anything that isn't a PC. None of the 3D games impressed me even the slightest bit.

I've owned the PSone versions of every single Worms game (partially because I'm sad, partially because I like to see the difference between different versions of the same game, and partially because as founder of Dream17 it's my job!) and it's not all that bad. I still enjoy playing Worms World Party on the PSone (a brief comparison with the Dreamcast version: lower-res graphics and no online play = lose; inclusion of Multiplayer Missions and the WormPot = win). The console will always lose to the PC in terms of which system the game is best suited for, but I've learnt from experience that when you've got friends over it's a lot easier to toss a joypad around that it is to swap seats every 30 seconds.

arcath

Squirminator2k wrote:

JerikTelorian wrote:

I'm not sure how I'd feel about playing it on anything that isn't a PC. None of the 3D games impressed me even the slightest bit.

I've owned the PSone versions of every single Worms game (partially because I'm sad, partially because I like to see the difference between different versions of the same game, and partially because as founder of Dream17 it's my job!) and it's not all that bad. I still enjoy playing Worms World Party on the PSone (a brief comparison with the Dreamcast version: lower-res graphics and no online play = lose; inclusion of Multiplayer Missions and the WormPot = win). The console will always lose to the PC in terms of which system the game is best suited for, but I've learnt from experience that when you've got friends over it's a lot easier to toss a joypad around that it is to swap seats every 30 seconds.

That was my gripe with the dreamcast version of armededdon. I hated to swap the controller around.

honestly i cant remember, its been awhile, but they fixed that problem on the dreamcast WWP.

darleysam

i was so hoping they'd release this over Christmas. Everyone in my family loves Worms, and it would've been awesome with everyone around. Oh well, as long as this isn't balls, it's an instant buy for me.

JerikTelorian

Squirminator2k wrote:

JerikTelorian wrote:

I'm not sure how I'd feel about playing it on anything that isn't a PC. None of the 3D games impressed me even the slightest bit.

I've owned the PSone versions of every single Worms game (partially because I'm sad, partially because I like to see the difference between different versions of the same game, and partially because as founder of Dream17 it's my job!) and it's not all that bad. I still enjoy playing Worms World Party on the PSone (a brief comparison with the Dreamcast version: lower-res graphics and no online play = lose; inclusion of Multiplayer Missions and the WormPot = win). The console will always lose to the PC in terms of which system the game is best suited for, but I've learnt from experience that when you've got friends over it's a lot easier to toss a joypad around that it is to swap seats every 30 seconds.

Hmm. I just always thought that the gamepad would have awkward controls compared to the mouse, but your point of "tossing the pad" is actually a really good idea. The hotseat games are fun, but all of the shifting can get annoying at a desk :P

Squirminator2k

The controls are quite well mapped on the console versions.

arcath

JerikTelorian wrote:

Squirminator2k wrote:

JerikTelorian wrote:

I'm not sure how I'd feel about playing it on anything that isn't a PC. None of the 3D games impressed me even the slightest bit.

I've owned the PSone versions of every single Worms game (partially because I'm sad, partially because I like to see the difference between different versions of the same game, and partially because as founder of Dream17 it's my job!) and it's not all that bad. I still enjoy playing Worms World Party on the PSone (a brief comparison with the Dreamcast version: lower-res graphics and no online play = lose; inclusion of Multiplayer Missions and the WormPot = win). The console will always lose to the PC in terms of which system the game is best suited for, but I've learnt from experience that when you've got friends over it's a lot easier to toss a joypad around that it is to swap seats every 30 seconds.

Hmm. I just always thought that the gamepad would have awkward controls compared to the mouse, but your point of "tossing the pad" is actually a really good idea. The hotseat games are fun, but all of the shifting can get annoying at a desk :P

negative sir, negative.

I can ninja rope just as good on the dreamcast as i can on the PC.

while the consoles left out some weapons, mainly napalm and some other stuff, the consoles were pretty awesome.

I can recall the times when we were drunk or stoned back in college that i would have a room full of people gathered around the dreamcast playing WWP or Armageddon.

Six

I never had a problem with the controls of the console versions. Some games definitely do need a mouse and don't come over well (Starcraft) but worms was fine.

Sadly, this means I'll lose all motivation to do my XNA port of scorched earth.

JerikTelorian

arcath wrote:

JerikTelorian wrote:

Squirminator2k wrote:

JerikTelorian wrote:

I'm not sure how I'd feel about playing it on anything that isn't a PC. None of the 3D games impressed me even the slightest bit.

I've owned the PSone versions of every single Worms game (partially because I'm sad, partially because I like to see the difference between different versions of the same game, and partially because as founder of Dream17 it's my job!) and it's not all that bad. I still enjoy playing Worms World Party on the PSone (a brief comparison with the Dreamcast version: lower-res graphics and no online play = lose; inclusion of Multiplayer Missions and the WormPot = win). The console will always lose to the PC in terms of which system the game is best suited for, but I've learnt from experience that when you've got friends over it's a lot easier to toss a joypad around that it is to swap seats every 30 seconds.

Hmm. I just always thought that the gamepad would have awkward controls compared to the mouse, but your point of "tossing the pad" is actually a really good idea. The hotseat games are fun, but all of the shifting can get annoying at a desk :P

negative sir, negative.

I can ninja rope just as good on the dreamcast as i can on the PC.

while the consoles left out some weapons, mainly napalm and some other stuff, the consoles were pretty awesome.

I can recall the times when we were drunk or stoned back in college that i would have a room full of people gathered around the dreamcast playing WWP or Armageddon.

Ninja Rope? I love The ninja rope. I'll look into this, then, as an excuse to spend those MS Points I've been accumulating. Thanks for clearning up those misconceptions

arcath

JerikTelorian wrote:

arcath wrote:

JerikTelorian wrote:

Squirminator2k wrote:

JerikTelorian wrote:

I'm not sure how I'd feel about playing it on anything that isn't a PC. None of the 3D games impressed me even the slightest bit.

I've owned the PSone versions of every single Worms game (partially because I'm sad, partially because I like to see the difference between different versions of the same game, and partially because as founder of Dream17 it's my job!) and it's not all that bad. I still enjoy playing Worms World Party on the PSone (a brief comparison with the Dreamcast version: lower-res graphics and no online play = lose; inclusion of Multiplayer Missions and the WormPot = win). The console will always lose to the PC in terms of which system the game is best suited for, but I've learnt from experience that when you've got friends over it's a lot easier to toss a joypad around that it is to swap seats every 30 seconds.

Hmm. I just always thought that the gamepad would have awkward controls compared to the mouse, but your point of "tossing the pad" is actually a really good idea. The hotseat games are fun, but all of the shifting can get annoying at a desk :P

negative sir, negative.

I can ninja rope just as good on the dreamcast as i can on the PC.

while the consoles left out some weapons, mainly napalm and some other stuff, the consoles were pretty awesome.

I can recall the times when we were drunk or stoned back in college that i would have a room full of people gathered around the dreamcast playing WWP or Armageddon.

Ninja Rope? I love The ninja rope. I'll look into this, then, as an excuse to spend those MS Points I've been accumulating. Thanks for clearning up those misconceptions

It just takes practice.

Zek

The explosions seemed a little odd in that video, like everything was running in high gravity. I guess I can get used to it. I don't have a 360 yet but if this is good it'll definitely accelerate my purchase. It's so easy to get it right - all I want is Worms: Armageddon with a good online interface and people to play with, really. I hope they don't leave out a bunch of stuff or botch the interface.

Squirminator2k

I'm wondering if this calls for a revival of the [WORM ON] thread I started a month or so ago...

cursor101

If the video on gametrailers was any indication I'm going to be pissed if they made it so that sheep are explicitly tied to a timer.

Zek

cursor101 wrote:

If the video on gametrailers was any indication I'm going to be pissed if they made it so that sheep are explicitly tied to a timer.

Yeah, I just assumed the guy didn't know what he was doing. That would make sheep pretty useless.

JerikTelorian

Squirminator2k wrote:

I'm wondering if this calls for a revival of the [WORM ON] thread I started a month or so ago...

I so think it does.

Tangentally related, I really wish The Fiddler would work with XP. I loved that thing so much. I worked on some pretty cool scenario games with it.

cursor101

Zek wrote:

cursor101 wrote:

If the video on gametrailers was any indication I'm going to be pissed if they made it so that sheep are explicitly tied to a timer.

Yeah, I just assumed the guy didn't know what he was doing. That would make sheep pretty useless.

They also used to make huge craters. The one in the trailer was lacking. When you get hit by a sheep you should know you got hit by a sheep.

Squirminator2k

JerikTelorian wrote:

Squirminator2k wrote:

I'm wondering if this calls for a revival of the [WORM ON] thread I started a month or so ago...

I so think it does.

Tangentally related, I really wish The Fiddler would work with XP. I loved that thing so much. I worked on some pretty cool scenario games with it.

Y'know, WWP has an official, free-to-download Mission Editor.

JerikTelorian

Squirminator2k wrote:

JerikTelorian wrote:

Squirminator2k wrote:

I'm wondering if this calls for a revival of the [WORM ON] thread I started a month or so ago...

I so think it does.

Tangentally related, I really wish The Fiddler would work with XP. I loved that thing so much. I worked on some pretty cool scenario games with it.

Y'know, WWP has an official, free-to-download Mission Editor.

:O

Must aquire.

This makes me wonder- were you familiar with The Allotment? After they went down, I don't think I ever made a new Worms purchase. *shame*

Squirminator2k

You'll need the patch first, and then you can grab the Mission Editor.

Unless you don't have the game, in which case you can buy that here. Don't get the TryGames version, even if you are tempted by the promise of a full download straight away. There's a patch due for WA to let Armageddon players join World Party games and vice versa, and if a patch is released for WWP at the same time the TryGames version won't support it.

Edit: The Allotment merged with Worms Universe to become Wormtopia, of which I was a staffmember Most of the community is either on CL2K (which, upon inspection, appears to be dead), or the official Team 17 Forum. Some of it has spilled over into Dream17's forum.

arcath

Squirminator2k wrote:

You'll need the patch first, and then you can grab the Mission Editor.

Unless you don't have the game, in which case you can buy that here. Don't get the TryGames version, even if you are tempted by the promise of a full download straight away. There's a patch due for WA to let Armageddon players join World Party games and vice versa, and if a patch is released for WWP at the same time the TryGames version won't support it.

Edit: The Allotment merged with Worms Universe to become Wormtopia, of which I was a staffmember Most of the community is either on CL2K (which, upon inspection, appears to be dead), or the official Team 17 Forum. Some of it has spilled over into Dream17's forum.

Can we get some linkage to these fourms and sites? Im at work now, and would like to read some worms stuff when i get home tonight.

Squirminator2k

Official Team 17 Forum :: http://forum.team17.com/
Dream17.co.uk Forum :: http://www.dream17.co.uk/forum
CL2K :: http://www.cl2k.org/ (doesn't appear to be working)

Feriluce

I will so be downloading this when it gets released. Worms on my Amiga was one of my most played games. Especially when friends came over.

Worms over XBox Live? Yes please.

Kami

Oh Jesus if this comes out soon I'll buy it instantly.

I was saving my points for Castlevania, but c'mon.

C'mon.

Woodroez

And to think, for a while I thought Arcade would be a useless gimmick. Between this and Geometry Wars, I'm going to be extracting as much joy out of Arcade titles as I will "real" games for a while. Now all I need is consistent access to broadband. :C

Stonecutter

So the DS version of Worms sucks right?

How the hell could anyone let that happen?

Paradox Control

These sounds,
These wonderful, wonderful sounds,
I cant wait for the day that they grace my TV screen, along with the voice of many XBL'ers as I destroy them!

This was the only game I would play for a long time. I had W1, W2, and WA.

Woodroez

JerikTelorian wrote:

Squirminator2k wrote:

JerikTelorian wrote:

I'm not sure how I'd feel about playing it on anything that isn't a PC. None of the 3D games impressed me even the slightest bit.

I've owned the PSone versions of every single Worms game (partially because I'm sad, partially because I like to see the difference between different versions of the same game, and partially because as founder of Dream17 it's my job!) and it's not all that bad. I still enjoy playing Worms World Party on the PSone (a brief comparison with the Dreamcast version: lower-res graphics and no online play = lose; inclusion of Multiplayer Missions and the WormPot = win). The console will always lose to the PC in terms of which system the game is best suited for, but I've learnt from experience that when you've got friends over it's a lot easier to toss a joypad around that it is to swap seats every 30 seconds.

Hmm. I just always thought that the gamepad would have awkward controls compared to the mouse, but your point of "tossing the pad" is actually a really good idea. The hotseat games are fun, but all of the shifting can get annoying at a desk :P

Hrmm. I had Armageddon for the N64...I don't think I've ever SEEN a pc copy of the game.

So the gun crosshair follows the mouse anywhere? Weak. I always thought the limited crosshair was a given mechanic. It made sharpshooting a challenge.

EDIT: Whoops. Are dumb.

Phoenix-D

For aiming, all the PC Worms games uses are the arrow keys. Its weapon selection and calling in air strikes that uses the mouse, and that would be harder with a gamepad..

Resident0

Squirminator2k wrote:

JerikTelorian wrote:

I'm not sure how I'd feel about playing it on anything that isn't a PC. None of the 3D games impressed me even the slightest bit.

I've owned the PSone versions of every single Worms game (partially because I'm sad, partially because I like to see the difference between different versions of the same game, and partially because as founder of Dream17 it's my job!) and it's not all that bad. I still enjoy playing Worms World Party on the PSone (a brief comparison with the Dreamcast version: lower-res graphics and no online play = lose; inclusion of Multiplayer Missions and the WormPot = win). The console will always lose to the PC in terms of which system the game is best suited for, but I've learnt from experience that when you've got friends over it's a lot easier to toss a joypad around that it is to swap seats every 30 seconds.

Dream17?

Surely you mean Team17?

TM2 Rampage

Resident0 wrote:

Squirminator2k wrote:

JerikTelorian wrote:

I'm not sure how I'd feel about playing it on anything that isn't a PC. None of the 3D games impressed me even the slightest bit.

I've owned the PSone versions of every single Worms game (partially because I'm sad, partially because I like to see the difference between different versions of the same game, and partially because as founder of Dream17 it's my job!) and it's not all that bad. I still enjoy playing Worms World Party on the PSone (a brief comparison with the Dreamcast version: lower-res graphics and no online play = lose; inclusion of Multiplayer Missions and the WormPot = win). The console will always lose to the PC in terms of which system the game is best suited for, but I've learnt from experience that when you've got friends over it's a lot easier to toss a joypad around that it is to swap seats every 30 seconds.

Dream17?

Surely you mean Team17?

Nah it's probably a fansite for Worms. I just googled it

Squirminator2k

It's actually a fansite for Team 17 games in general. And, uh, it's mine. Yeah, I'm sad like that. But to be fair, Team 17 games make up at least 40% of the Amiga gaming memories from my childhood, so nyerr.

eobet

I saw a screenshot of Worms HD with a sort of 3D effect to the holes you blow in the landscapes. It showed depth, a bit of perspective going into the picture, along the formed hole.

I'm disappointed that this video shows none of that.

EDIT: Googled for the screenshot in question, but no other screenshots show anything like this either, so I guess its sadly just a part of a static background?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/155/336871636_1814a598c4_o.jpg
http://nofi.wordpress.com/files/2006/12/336871636_1814a598c4_o.jpg

I noticed that the animated backgrounds were new, but you'd think that they'd upgrade the destructible environment in at least some way. I'm also suprised that they don't seem to use any physics at all to make things collapse or fall apart from the blasts.

randombattle

Man worms with realistic physics would be absolutely insane. The whole map would collapse in on itself in the first couple turns.

solsovly

YES!!!!!!!! I want this game so bad, so very badly. I miss me some multiplayer worm action.

Squirminator2k

Yeah, that surfboard with a bite out of it is pre-rendered. Team 17 have said that a 2.5D game engine wouldn't work. Apparently.

Kewop Decam

i suck hard at this game, but i will buy it so quick.

When does it drop?