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Got a Wii. So... co-op?

s3rial ones3rial one Registered User regular
edited December 2009 in Games and Technology
My fiancee bought me a Wii for Christmas and gave it to me early, apparently so she could beat my ass in Wii Sports Boxing.

Thing is, the reason I wanted a Wii is so we could have some games to play together. The 360 has a dire shortage of good, local co-op games, and almost all of what it does have is split-screen FPS games. I figured the Wii would fare much better in that regard.

Currently, I own:

Wii Sports
New SMB
Smash Bros.
Mario Kart
Okami

On the to-buy list (not necessarily for co-op):

Metroid Trilogy
Muramasa
Twilight Princess
A Boy and his Blob

What I'm looking for, specifically, are recommendations for co-op games. My fiancee's not really much of a gamer, so competitive multiplayer isn't really what I'm looking for.

I'd love to do something in the vein of the original Crystal Chronicles (not much interested in the DS-turned Wii game, or whatever the fuck that thing is that they've plastered a Crystal Chronicles name to that's coming out after Christmas) or Four Swords ($$$ for the game + $$ for Gamecube controllers).

We enjoyed the Marvel Ultimate Alliance games, too, but I've got them both on the 360 already.

So, any ideas? I'd like to pick up a few more games we can play together. Or anything I should get myself, for that matter.

Note: I hate modern JRPGs with all the intensity of a billion burning suns. I have no interest in them at all.

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  • SaraLunaSaraLuna Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    VC Secret of Mana - one of the best co-op games of all time
    Boom Blox (or it's sequel) - is damn fun. can be played co-op, and the competitive multiplay is accessible/fun for non-gamers
    Mario Galaxy - is a must-own game anyway. not strictly co-op, but a 2nd player can assist you with their wiimote.

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    If you like rail shooters, the two Resident Evil ones (Umbrella Chronicles and Darkside Chronicles) have 2 player coop, and so does Dead Space: Extraction.

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    World of Goo can be played cooperatively on the Wii. You should download it anyway, it's amazing.

    Metal Slug Anthology is a must-buy for co-op sidescrolling shooting. You can turn on infinite lives and blaze through it with two people and have a great time. Plus it's like 7 games in one (though they're not terribly long).

    Geometry Wars Galaxies is also pretty fun in co-op.

    Try this site: http://www.co-optimus.com/system/3/wii.html

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Pretty much all of the Guitar Hero/Rock Band games will do coop. Same with the LEGO *** games.
    Geometry Wars: Galaxies has a coop mode too, should be really cheap too.

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  • pyromaniac221pyromaniac221 this just might be an interestin YTRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Buy House of the Dead: Overkill.

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  • VeganVegan Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    World of Goo can be played cooperatively on the Wii. You should download it anyway, it's amazing.

    I've heard that playing it that way is, like NSMB, a formula for divorce.

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  • EeveelutionEeveelution Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    The new super mario bros.

    Nuff Said.

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  • s3rial ones3rial one Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    We both have World of Goo on the PC already, anyway. :P

    Same deal with Secret of Mana. Already have it.

    Honestly, I've been saying this for years: the best conceivable multiplayer game, in my mind, would be Secret of Mana, updated with modern graphics, with more characters and special abilities, and no need to pause to execute abilities. Throw in a modern combat system (e.g. like God of War or Ninja Gaiden), and you have a game that's absolute gold. In my mind, at least.

    I do appreciate the suggestions, so please keep them coming.

    A bit of a concern, though... I've heard that the Resident Evil games were pretty awful. Are they actually good?

    Also, I just got rid of Guitar Hero on my 360. In fact, I'm trying to sell my wireless guitars on Craigslist right now because Gamestop won't take them back and I have no idea what else to do with them.

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  • elliotw2elliotw2 Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Yes, the lightgun games on the Wii are pretty much all good, and pretty much all involve shooting zombies in the head with buddies and varying amounts of gore and fuck

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  • Lord JezoLord Jezo Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Marvel Ultimate Alliance.

    Not the second one, I hear that's poopy, but the first one was a wonderful co-op beat em up Gauntlet style experience with the now wife.

    Speaking of Gauntlet, if you like that sort of game you can get Gauntlet: Dark Legacy for the Game Cube (since you own one of those too now) for 9 bucks, which is another great game of this sort for co-op play.

    http://product.half.ebay.com/Gauntlet-Dark-Legacy-Game-Cube-2002_W0QQtgZinfoQQprZ8988

    And then there is Mario Kart Double Dash and a bunch of other Gamecube stuff I am forgetting about right now. But those first two suggestions are the best.

    Edit: Oh you said that already, you own Marvel.

    Get Gauntlet then.

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    The RE rail shooters are pretty meaty and excellent rail shooters, though they're rail shooters through and through, so if you don't like that genre you won't like the RE ones.

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    s3rial one wrote: »
    A bit of a concern, though... I've heard that the Resident Evil games were pretty awful. Are they actually good?
    They're awesome. The most engaging light gun games I've ever played, due to having options besides just regular shooting...grenades, knifing, precise headshots, tons of destructible/hidden objects all over the levels. Lots of weapons to upgrade in every capacity ala RE4. Multiple paths, and a great presentation.

    I don't know where someone could get the idea it's bad. If it's bad then I'd call any other light gun game awful. Some people are turned off by being able to shoot everything, blasting paintings off the walls instead of zombies, but that's a personal problem. :P

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  • Lord JezoLord Jezo Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    OOoo...

    How about rail shooters of the flying type? Like um, R-Type or Xevious..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZEGyrEnXrk

    Ikaruga for the GC can be had for about thirty bucks, is co-op two players, and will kick your ass but at the same time make you want to try again to just push yourself a little bit more.

    And it looks impressive when other people watch you (if you can get past the first level).

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  • delphinusdelphinus Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Call of Duty: Modern Warfare Reflex has a Co-Op campaign mode. Its a solid title, aside from the graphical downgrade, it holds up pretty well. I've put my time into sp, co-op and multiplayer.

    But Secret of Man EASILY tops most things people will list here

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  • BTPBTP Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    In addition to what everyone has already said...

    Ghostbusters
    Blast Works
    Trauma Center: New Blood
    Mario Strikers Charged

    On the Wii Shop Channel:
    Bubble Bobble
    Super C
    Contra III
    Tetris Party (WiiWare)
    Defend Your Castle (WiiWare)
    Bit Trip Beat (WiiWare, try the demo!)

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  • tsmvengytsmvengy Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Already mentioned, but I second:

    Marvel: Ultimate Alliance (lots of fun co-op)
    House of the Dead: 2&3 Return
    HotD: Overkill
    Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles
    RE: Darkside Chronicles
    Ghost Squad (only 3 levels so you have to be one of those "I'll play this over and over until I 100%" people)

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  • FiggyFiggy Fighter of the night man Champion of the sunRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Get Boom Blox (either the old or the new)

    It's exactly what you're looking for.

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  • RestartRestart Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I also recommend Bubble Bobble Plus on WiiWare. Highly recommend even!

    And yes, a REAL modern day Secret of Mana would be the best game ever D:

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I know this is my answer to everything, but:

    Castle Shikigami 3.

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  • mntorankusumntorankusu I'm not sure how to use this thing.... Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    River City Ransom (VC, NES) is probably one of the best times I've had with two players. It's so ridiculous.

    Gunstar Heroes (VC, Genesis) is great too. Some of the best side-scrolling action there is.

    Both of them can be played with just the Wiimote, so if you don't have two Classic controllers or GC controllers you don't need to worry.

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Oh yeah. Definitely get River City Ransom.

    It's another one of those infinite lives games, but you lose half your moneys when you die. Unless the game is two player, and just as someone dies the other player changes screens. I love that exploit.

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  • Jam WarriorJam Warrior Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    LEGO Star Wars/Indiana Jones/Batman are perfect for what you're after. Charming, fun, co-operative, spouse friendly difficulty.

    Plus LEGO Star Wars being an amalgam of two seperate games is pretty mahoosive for the money.

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  • slash000slash000 Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    s3rial one wrote: »
    Crystal Chronicles (not much interested in the DS-turned Wii game, or whatever the fuck that thing is that they've plastered a Crystal Chronicles name to that's coming out after Christmas)

    Are you kiddin' me? The one "coming out after Christmas" is not the DS port. It's a totally new game and it looks awesome.




    Also I don't think it was mentioned but Mario Strikers Charged is a great cooperative or competitive game. Great for everyone too, and a great game to play with a group.

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    slash000 wrote: »
    s3rial one wrote: »
    Crystal Chronicles (not much interested in the DS-turned Wii game, or whatever the fuck that thing is that they've plastered a Crystal Chronicles name to that's coming out after Christmas)

    Are you kiddin' me? The one "coming out after Christmas" is not the DS port. It's a totally new game and it looks awesome.
    I think he got that, hence the "or." There's a DS port CC and a new amazingly awesome CC. However it is not co-op.

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  • slash000slash000 Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    slash000 wrote: »
    s3rial one wrote: »
    Crystal Chronicles (not much interested in the DS-turned Wii game, or whatever the fuck that thing is that they've plastered a Crystal Chronicles name to that's coming out after Christmas)

    Are you kiddin' me? The one "coming out after Christmas" is not the DS port. It's a totally new game and it looks awesome.
    I think he got that, hence the "or." There's a DS port CC and a new amazingly awesome CC. However it is not co-op.

    I see. Well, anyway, I guess since this is a local multiplayer focused recommendation thread, the "good" new Wii FFCC doesn't really count, despite looking to be awesome, because it's not multiplayer.


    So anyway on topic:
    You know I was thinking, there are some good sports games that can be played casually that aren't per se local but could be quite fun. I haven't tried them though.

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  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    was going to say the CoD modern warfare reflex, but it doesn't seem casual enough


    ps. delphinus we should exchange codes

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  • delphinusdelphinus Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    slash000 wrote: »
    slash000 wrote: »
    s3rial one wrote: »
    Crystal Chronicles (not much interested in the DS-turned Wii game, or whatever the fuck that thing is that they've plastered a Crystal Chronicles name to that's coming out after Christmas)

    Are you kiddin' me? The one "coming out after Christmas" is not the DS port. It's a totally new game and it looks awesome.
    I think he got that, hence the "or." There's a DS port CC and a new amazingly awesome CC. However it is not co-op.

    I see. Well, anyway, I guess since this is a local multiplayer focused recommendation thread, the "good" new Wii FFCC doesn't really count, despite looking to be awesome, because it's not multiplayer.


    So anyway on topic:
    You know I was thinking, there are some good sports games that can be played casually that aren't per se local but could be quite fun. I haven't tried them though.

    Madden 09 All-play is THE best 3rd party jump-in sports game. You can ask for a quick tutorial like EVERY single play if you forget the controls, very little loading, recommend plays, and on-site play maker. Great game and very polished.

    The rest of them...wow. I could give reasons for each if you want, but they all are quite bad/difficult/etc.

    Actually to keep from sounding like an apple box standing ass, I can provide reasons in the spoilers:
    For this list, I will omit minigame fests that have shallow depth in gameplay (it doesnt make it a bad game, it just means that it goes beyond waggle to run, swing to throw within the next 40s, style gameplay):
    mario and sonic, wii sports, wii sports resort, wii fit, Deca Sports

    Grand Slam Tennis: not the most casual since the learning curve is so damn steep to get the immersiveness factor to click with the motion +. Great Experience, but the payoff was just too expensive for me, time-wise.

    Virtua Tennis: felt like a step down from the previous series with sluggish controls, and weird ball friction on clay courts.

    Bass Pro Fishing / Cabela's Big Game: Far from casual games and more hobbyist. Though I do enjoy Bass Pro, both games feel like RPGs that it takes hours of grinding to get to the good stuff.

    NHL2K09: I would ALMOST recommend this game for the casuals. Solid game, solid graphics and sound. The AI is brutally relentless even on Rookie. I am not a fan of the 2k menu's since it feels like cluttered mess. Though its incredibly quick to get a game started, navigating through anything else makes it quite a chore. The game does come with LOTS of extra features, which i do recommend to people if you like a good hockey game and only have a Wii. Real time dekeing with the motion + is awesome.

    PES2009: god this game is a soccer masochists dream. I personally hate the sport, but gave this game a 2 month try. The menu's are nostalgically reminiscent of the good old dreamcast sports menus. Slick, Quick, and no Bullsquirt. However the controls are probably the most counter-intuitive ive ever had the pleasure of experiencing. But this is not necessarily a bad thing, there were a plethora of plays you could execute with the flick of your wrists and buttons. I just didn't have the capacity nor the drive to remember them all. Give me pass and shoot please. None of this give, give, deke and go business. I know there's a community for this online, for I had my ass handed to me royally before the guy dropped for beating on a noob. Good netcode too!

    It's proclaimed as the best version of all the systems because of it's on the fly play making using the wii pointer controls. I was intrigued to play this because I thought it would be like a sports RTS. This game is for soccer enthusiasts alone, and will not be disappointed. The sheer amount of depth this game has is crazy. If you want this game to be a casual play, I suggest you keep the instruction book in front of you both.

    Fifa 2009: havent tried yet, but it looks MUCH more user friendly to soccer noobs such as myself. Menu Navigation and presentation looks good too.

    If you want something a LOT less that a sports simulation I suggest Mario Sluggers and Mario Strikers. If you want real stupid fun, go find Blitz 2003 (not blitz pro), MLB Slugfest, NHL Hitz 2003 (all Hitz on code) for the gamecube.
    To keep this post on topic, all the games except for the minigames I have named are co-op and usually up to 4 players local and some cases online

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    s3rial one wrote: »
    A bit of a concern, though... I've heard that the Resident Evil games were pretty awful. Are they actually good?
    They're awesome. The most engaging light gun games I've ever played, due to having options besides just regular shooting...grenades, knifing, precise headshots, tons of destructible/hidden objects all over the levels. Lots of weapons to upgrade in every capacity ala RE4. Multiple paths, and a great presentation.

    I don't know where someone could get the idea it's bad. If it's bad then I'd call any other light gun game awful. Some people are turned off by being able to shoot everything, blasting paintings off the walls instead of zombies, but that's a personal problem. :P

    I think the whole "these games are bad" thing comes from two places.

    1. Railshooters are often considered to be an outdated genre, with simplified gameplay. There's a lot of hate in general for rail shooters, with the inferance that they're "inferior" to a normal game.
    2. There's a lot of resentment from RE fans that they keep getting rail shooters for the Wii, rather than new games in the RE4/5 style, especially after how well RE4: Wii edition sold.

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I'm number 2.

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  • FalstaffFalstaff Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    It'd be hard to improve on RE4 Wii though. Got to cut them some slack on that front.

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  • s3rial ones3rial one Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I think I find myself in the number one camp.

    Rail shooters just feel so archaic and boring. Adventure, platformers, FPS, CRPG, SRPG... like every genre of gaming has improved over the past two decades. But rail shooters now feel exactly the same as that shitty Aerosmith game I played in arcades as a kid.

    EDIT: I don't think I'd have a problem with rail shooters if they were all bargain games or something. But when every game comes out at roughly the same price point, they seem to offer remarkably little for the money.

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  • psychotixpsychotix __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2009
    s3rial one wrote: »
    I think I find myself in the number one camp.

    Rail shooters just feel so archaic and boring. Adventure, platformers, FPS, CRPG, SRPG... like every genre of gaming has improved over the past two decades. But rail shooters now feel exactly the same as that shitty Aerosmith game I played in arcades as a kid.

    EDIT: I don't think I'd have a problem with rail shooters if they were all bargain games or something. But when every game comes out at roughly the same price point, they seem to offer remarkably little for the money.

    Bah, lots of genres haven't evolved, looking at you scrolling shooters. But whenever a company releases a throw back say contra or castlevania, or even a new one, people go bonkers.

    Change isn't always good.

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  • pyromaniac221pyromaniac221 this just might be an interestin YTRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    How much can a genre as restricted as the rail shooter really evolve, though?

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  • elliotw2elliotw2 Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Wait, what?

    For anyone who says that Rail shooters haven't changed, play Dead Space:Extraction. It's more like a first person adventure game, with lots of shooting at necromorphs.

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  • s3rial ones3rial one Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    psychotix wrote: »
    s3rial one wrote: »
    I think I find myself in the number one camp.

    Rail shooters just feel so archaic and boring. Adventure, platformers, FPS, CRPG, SRPG... like every genre of gaming has improved over the past two decades. But rail shooters now feel exactly the same as that shitty Aerosmith game I played in arcades as a kid.

    EDIT: I don't think I'd have a problem with rail shooters if they were all bargain games or something. But when every game comes out at roughly the same price point, they seem to offer remarkably little for the money.

    Bah, lots of genres haven't evolved, looking at you scrolling shooters. But whenever a company releases a throw back say contra or castlevania, or even a new one, people go bonkers.

    Change isn't always good.

    It's not just a throwback, though.

    Nobody gets excited when Sega grunts and strains and craps out a bunch of 15 to 20 year old games on XBLA, absolutely devoid of any sort of updating at all (e.g. 3D World Runner). It's the updates that get people excited, like the Bionic Commando remake, or the old Final Fantasy games turned 3D on the DS.

    A new 2D Castlevania, for example, would be pretty sweet; a new take on an old genre. But it wouldn't be very sweet if it was just the original Castlevania with a facelift.

    For a good comparison of what I'm talking about, compare the original NES Castlevania to Dawn of Sorrow. That's a good update of a throwback. Same core gameplay, but with a lot of modern elements.

    Most rail shooters, by comparison, seem to play exactly the same now as they did back in '89.

    Of course, I may be wrong, and there are undoubtedly exceptions out there. But based on my experience with them, I hear "rail shooter" and instantly assume someone's talking about a game that's identical to every shitty arcade light gun game I've ever played.

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  • psychotixpsychotix __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2009
    For a good comparison of what I'm talking about, compare the original NES Castlevania to Dawn of Sorrow. That's a good update of a throwback. Same core gameplay, but with a lot of modern elements.

    That's not a throw back at all. It's a completely different gaming sharing nothing but a title and some enemy names.

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    s3rial one wrote: »
    I think I find myself in the number one camp.

    Rail shooters just feel so archaic and boring. Adventure, platformers, FPS, CRPG, SRPG... like every genre of gaming has improved over the past two decades. But rail shooters now feel exactly the same as that shitty Aerosmith game I played in arcades as a kid.

    EDIT: I don't think I'd have a problem with rail shooters if they were all bargain games or something. But when every game comes out at roughly the same price point, they seem to offer remarkably little for the money.

    I sunk 30 hours into Umbrella Chronicles, trying to unlock all the stuff. Even if I hadn't, it would have been a good 6-8 hours of enjoyment out of it, just playing through the game once.

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  • delphinusdelphinus Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I think to date I have around 52 hours sunk into Umbrella Chronicles.
    I've S classed all the missions. By far the hardest is the first antarctic level.

    Not a lot of people get this game. I feel though it was the first rail shooter to really change the gameplay of its genre. People try to unload all the bullets possible into the zombie then get pissed that the guns are too weak. This game emphasized accuracy by sissying up the bullets and making the reload animations so damn long. Ammo, though plentiful, would run out on more occasions than one.

    But once you really 'get' the game, it makes you feel like you could survive a zombie apocalypse with a pea shooter, since you've mastered the art of dead-center head shots. The sheer feeling of continuous "swish" sounds I find very relaxing. Easily the most played game in my wii.

    I've only bought unlimited ammo for the revolver because some days I like to put my cowboy hat and go through Racoon City feeling like I'm in a Zombie Western.

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  • Rex DartRex Dart Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    2. There's a lot of resentment from RE fans that they keep getting rail shooters for the Wii, rather than new games in the RE4/5 style, especially after how well RE4: Wii edition sold.
    Man, I resent that we keep getting light gun games and games in the RE4/5 style instead of the REmake style.

    Anyway, I'd like to make a preemptive recommendation for Monster Hunter 3, which will have local coop.

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  • Hockey JohnstonHockey Johnston Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Toe Jam & Earl for the Genesis is a very couple-centric game IMO. It's kinda slow, but that can be a good thing for someone without a lot of hours under their belt.

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