Is this the correct usage of an apostrophe after "s"?
billwill
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"Black-Eyed Peas' grunts and moans and other monosyllables"
I want to say it's wrong, since "Black-Eyed Peas" refers to a single music group, not multiple peas. Of course, I could be wrong about why it would be wrong, so I turn to you, H/A, for help.
I want to say it's wrong, since "Black-Eyed Peas" refers to a single music group, not multiple peas. Of course, I could be wrong about why it would be wrong, so I turn to you, H/A, for help.
I hate you and you hate me.
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Black-Eyed Peas's, although I would probably try and get rid of the possessive form altogether as it just looks off either way.
I believe it is correct as written.
yeah, my first thought was to restructure it as "the grunts, moans and other monosyllables of the Black Eyed Peas" if that works in the context
Its something my super smart friend posted on facebook, and it is on my bucket list to catch him with improper grammar. I've been waiting THREE YEARS.
Some people add another S after the apostrophe (Jesus's), but I think that looks unbalanced.
is correct
I'd take out the word "other" the meaning only suffers if you analyze it closely, and it flows much better.
Not every word that ends in s gets the s' treatment. And in some situation the s's is the correct form.
Long and Short of it. Both are acceptable.
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Urm?
Yes, every word that ends in an s gets the s' treatment when the context is possessive.
I also believe Jesus's was the only acceptable form of s's for awhile, but its now accepted mainstream for everything.
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Regular plural nouns yes. The confusion comes with names.
"Thomas' bike" vs. "Thomas's bike"
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I'm with you on that.
The way that sentence is constructed, it requires reading twice. Maybe a preceding "The", or some quotations, or both.... grunts and moans don't seem to be something that can be owned. At least, not the way it was written there.
Anyway, Im through discussing grunting and moaning. Smack your friend for a terrible sentence, if not for grammar, then structure, and if for neither of those, then for this thread.
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Also accent your smack by following up by saying "Boom Boom Pow!".
WFB said to go with "'s" for everything but plurals. That satisfies me on the debate.
Pick whatever! The main point is to be consistent in any given piece of writing, with how you handle them.
Some rulings:
1. If it ends in "s," use the apostrophe after the "s" every time. Simple is best.
2. If it's singular, use the apostrophe, then append another "s" every time. Simple is best.
3. (Seems convoluted, but is a favorite, because of the way it reads) For singular possessives that end in "s," add an apostrophe and an "s" if the noun ends with an unvoiced sound (Jesus's hat), and an apostrophe by itself if it's voiced (Socrates' coat).
You could point out that the word 'and' is only used at the end of a list of 3 or more things.
He has "Grunts and moans and monosyllables," where correct grammar would have it be:
1. "Grunts, moans, and monosyllables"
or
2. "Grunts, moans and monosyllables"
unless "grunts and moans" is a single object, or "moans and monosyllables" is a single object, neither of which appear to be the case.
This could be attributed to styling, but hey, people break the rules for style all the time. If you are just looking for a rule break, there's one there.
O_o
I'm probably really wrong here. It made sense at the time. I have notes somewhere.
Voiced - 'zzz' sound
Unvoiced - 'sss' sound
Do people pronounce Jesus and Socrates differently than I do, these days?
'J-Dawg' and 'Socratizzle'
I learned this as well--from a book, no less. Granted, it was in elementary school 15 years ago, and I've never actually seen it written that way outside of that one book, but there you go.
I think it's one of those rules that has disappeared into obscurity. I, for one, will not mourn its passing.