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[MOBA DOBA] League of Legends - Poppy and Nidalee and Bearcock, Oh My!

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edited February 2010 in Games and Technology
Stole'd from Moo because he's the pbaddest.
Pretty much, you just need to play this game. It's free 24/7 (unless you're a shmuck with money to blow on a free game to get free things faster) and has plenty of fun, colorful bearcocks to play with. Wait, I mean Udyr. The champion. Not...I mean...shutup...
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Here's your standard, wiki-stolen background:
Two main designers for the popular Warcraft III custom map, Defense of the Ancients: Allstars (commonly abbreviated as DotA), Steve "Guinsoo" Feak and Steve “Pendragon” Mescon are involved with Riot Games in the making of League Of Legends: Clash of Fates[6]. Guinsoo created DotA: Allstars from the original DotA, created by Eul, by adding his own mix of content, including over 40 heroes, numerous items, and various gameplay changes. Guinsoo then passed DotA: Allstars on to its current developer, Icefrog. Pendragon, who is the Director of Community Relations for Riot Games, helped create the DotA: Allstars website along with its forums, and is still currently working on League of Legends: Clash of Fates.


The game has RELEASED,
SIGN UP HERE: https://signup.leagueoflegends.com/

NDA is done, talk about whatever shit you want; and, post videos and pictures and stuff to your heart's content; just like this:
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People that are playing, and that you might also want to play with:
TyrantCow : MooMan
FightTest : FightTest
fadingathedges : fadingathedges
undeinpirat : undeinpirat
zanmatto : ParanoidDroid
Zombiemambo : EssGee
Cohsae : Cohsae
Nisi : Nisi
Sirson : Sirson
Originate : Originate
DebaserZbs : DebaserZbs
Endomatic : Barnabus
I needed a name to post : Pterodactyl Man
Zek : Zeyk
klok : fastpaced
ParisInFlames : skoot
Stolls : Karlinn
fmz65 : SensAZNal
UrQuanLord88 : urquan
TheSuperWoot : MelancholyMark
Lehman : Draggan
CharlesVI : CharlesVI
Bendery It Like Beckham : Bendery
DustedForLife : DustedAgain
Zoelef : Zoelef
soggychicken : soggychicken
Peas : jyajin
Custom Special : F4ll0ut
alset85 : alseT
king awesome : kingawesome
Mightyhog : Agreedo
Houn : Houn
In Starscream We Trust : In Starscream We Trust
TriadFate : TriadFate
Drakmathus : Drakmathus
Bardi : Bardi
MinionOfCthulhu : MinionOfCthulhu
Hrage : friedriceyum
Esc.Hatch : Hatch
distracted : Distracted
Feldorn : Mortenya
Adus : Adus
BaronVonNub : BaronVonNub
Zero-Control : ZeroControl
RawrBear : RawrBear
hiigaran : hiigaran
Thrawn200 : Mitthrawnuruodo
Seran : Seran
Colt : TheDeathJester
PolloDiablo : PolloDiablo
Slicer : Srice
Fiaryn : Fiaryn
Dracil : Dracil
Zalin : Zalin
Camui : Sogedan
Chubbly : Chubbly
Mugaaz : Mugaaz
Pyromaniac221 : abstrakt11
Shade : Hardcannon
nome : xcletus
Arch : Zinnar
Pmoney : Pmoney
Fleck0 : flecko
Saphier : errant
Thor1590 : Aphrodesizach19
PJStelford : PJStelford

Peeps usually be hanging out in the PA vent, hit it up for some games.
If you can't find any there check out the LoL vent (https://beta.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=6) and you can probably scrounge up a pre-made.

Character Builder
http://www.leaguecraft.com/
Check it out, it's fun to play with while you're at work and can't be at home playing. It's made by community members; so, expect it to change a bit behind any patches.

There is now a tutorial that new players can check out.
If you're just starting and wondering who to play (I believe you play her in the tutorial as well), Ashe is generally a good starting character: http://www.leagueoflegends.com/champions/view/22/ashe_the_frost_archer

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  • Custom SpecialCustom Special I know I am, I'm sure I am, I'm Sounders 'til I die!Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    It's apparently similar to the Warcraft 3 mod Defense of the Ancients. Except cooler and more fun (not that I ever played DotA).

    Free clicky to sign up and play.

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  • zanmattozanmatto Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Yeah, the game is pretty difficult to explain. Just try the tutorial, can't beat the price of free and all that.

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  • ColtColt .45 ColoradoRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Put me on the players list.

    Name: TheDeathJester

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  • DracilDracil Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    So Blitzcrank wow. It's like every time I grab someone they die. Might be my new favorite character.

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  • SlicerSlicer Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Dracil wrote: »
    So Blitzcrank wow. It's like every time I grab someone they die. Might be my new favorite character.

    Grabbing someone from the bushes is the best.

    I wish he wasn't so expensive, I like him but there are other, cheaper heroes I like more.

    Someday...

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  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I'll take a shot at a quick description.

    There are two bases at either side of the map. Each of those bases spawns waves of npc units, called minions, that run down one of several lanes towards the other base, fighting each other as the sides run into each other. There are also towers placed throughout the lanes, which on on the same side as the closest base and will shoot at enemies. Both sides are perfectly balanced, so the result is a deadlock.

    However, there are also a number of units that are controlled by players, one per person. These units, called champions, will gain experience and gold as they kill enemy minions and champions, and can be used to shift the battle towards the enemy base, eventually destroying it.

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  • UrQuanLord88UrQuanLord88 Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Some day, I would like to play non-OP heroes and win games and be called pro. Until then, I'm sticking to OP heroes.

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  • MinionOfCthulhuMinionOfCthulhu Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I've never seen that video before. I wonder who the flappy bird person was.

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  • ColtColt .45 ColoradoRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Some day, I would like to play non-OP heroes and win games and be called pro. Until then, I'm sticking to OP heroes.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGh4ZU4H5Hk&feature=player_embedded

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  • Mei HikariMei Hikari Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Slicer wrote: »
    Dracil wrote: »
    So Blitzcrank wow. It's like every time I grab someone they die. Might be my new favorite character.

    Grabbing someone from the bushes is the best.

    I wish he wasn't so expensive, I like him but there are other, cheaper heroes I like more.

    Someday...

    450IP Ashe 4eva

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  • InfestedGnomeInfestedGnome Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I am the best udyr with my big bad bear stun

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  • The Cow KingThe Cow King a island Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I am disappointed that heroes cost so much.

    Looks like back to playing Ashe for another month :x.

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  • DkarrdeDkarrde Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Ugh. The matchmaking system feels tiresome.

    I mean, on the one hand, it's actually very good at making you win/lose 50/50, in my experience, and it could be worse. On the other, it seems like every win is immediately followed by a loss, to the point where I practically might as well just go AFK the next match after I win one, because it'll assign me two feeders/leavers as teammates.

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  • Paradox ControlParadox Control Master MC Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Colt wrote: »
    Some day, I would like to play non-OP heroes and win games and be called pro. Until then, I'm sticking to OP heroes.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGh4ZU4H5Hk&feature=player_embedded

    Out of any competitive community, I think the Fighting Game Community has the best mentality when it comes to being competitive. If it wins you games, then you play that shit until it stops working.
    I wish more people thought this way, instead of playing the "bull shit" card. Play to win!

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  • DkarrdeDkarrde Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Out of any competitive community, I think the Fighting Game Community has the best mentality when it comes to being competitive. If it wins you games, then you play that shit until it stops working. I wish more people thought this way, instead of playing the "bull shit" card. Play to win!

    I think the other side of the coin is when only a few heroes are 'playable', this mentality drastically reduces the variety of the gameplay, and rightfully some people get pretty bored with it.

    There's also the fact that, unlike in fighting games, you can't always have the hero you want in LoL.

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  • Paradox ControlParadox Control Master MC Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Dkarrde wrote: »
    Out of any competitive community, I think the Fighting Game Community has the best mentality when it comes to being competitive. If it wins you games, then you play that shit until it stops working. I wish more people thought this way, instead of playing the "bull shit" card. Play to win!

    I think the other side of the coin is when only a few heroes are 'playable', this mentality drastically reduces the variety of the gameplay, and rightfully some people get pretty bored with it.

    There's also the fact that, unlike in fighting games, you can't always have the hero you want in LoL.
    Oh sure, that's true. I'm not drawing a direct comparison here. But at the end of the day, its all about match ups. I can't wait till we can stop playing mirror mode, so some pick tactics can be put in to play. The mode should be straight up Captions Draft from dota.

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  • Bendery It Like BeckhamBendery It Like Beckham Hopeless Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    why doesn't anyone play twisted fate anymore? I used to see him a lot, but now it seems like I'm the only person who plays him regularly. Or is he a top tier elo character and if i keep winning like this eventually i'll see more of him?

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  • FightTestFightTest Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    TF is played all the time and he's my current eye-rolling "that's such a crock of shit" character. It's fucking retarded to be clearing your lane fine at like level 4 and oh shit there's a red circle behind you and two enemies in front of you guaranteed death you lose no escape fuck you.

    He's 100% guaranteed ganks early game and it snowballs into late game. No other character gets such a no-skill option to kill people early game.

    Gate needs to be nerfed so that:

    Level 1 - Cannot use with a card picked.
    Level 2 - Can port with blue card.
    Level 3 - Can port with red card.
    Level 4/5 - Can port with gold card.

    As it stands there is absolute shit you can do to not get killed by a porting gold card TF behind you early-mid game. Requires no time, no setup, no skill. Just ping map, "get ready to gank," port, kill. Guaranteed.

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  • TheSuperWootTheSuperWoot Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I think the real problem comes with the way gold cards are dealt with in general. Seriously, who thought that a mass aoe stun that once you have the timing down you can basically get on command was a good idea.

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  • PolloDiabloPolloDiablo Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    A couple friends got me into this last weekend. I'm PolloDiablo on there, too.

    Sorry if this has been covered before, but what do people think of Heimerdinger? He seems pretty divisive on the official forums, but everything's divisive on official forums.

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  • zanmattozanmatto Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    A couple friends got me into this last weekend. I'm PolloDiablo on there, too.

    Sorry if this has been covered before, but what do people think of Heimerdinger? He seems pretty divisive on the official forums, but everything's divisive on official forums.

    He's more or less garbage.

    Anything he can do another hero can do better.

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  • HarlonHarlon Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    A couple friends got me into this last weekend. I'm PolloDiablo on there, too.

    Sorry if this has been covered before, but what do people think of Heimerdinger? He seems pretty divisive on the official forums, but everything's divisive on official forums.

    Heimer's ability seems to entirely depend upon the enemy's level of aggressiveness. If they play defensively against him, he will lock down the lane and slowly creep his way up until countered. In end game, a well played Heimer always surprises me, but they're generally nothing to worry about and don't contribute a lot. Then again, their contribution of locking down a lane in the early game usually contributes to their team's advantage in the end game. Take this with a grain of salt, though, as I've not really played against any good Heimers.

    I'm looking at making a "catch-all" rune page now that I'm almost 20. I figure stats like health, magic resist, armor, cooldown, and dodge are helpful for all heroes, but how should I fill my page?

    Dodge fully negates physical attacks, but 6 * .75% is such a small number. Whereas armor gives more bang for its buck at lower numbers. Critical chance really helps out heroes like Gangplank, but every hero uses standard attacks. Would it help out the rest equally well, if bumped up 7%? How about cooldown? I assume the level-scaling version should be taken, since mana is generally an issue at lower levels. And quints is looking like +1 gold/10 seconds is the best all around.

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  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Kudos wrote: »
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    Really wish I hadn't spent 400 IP on Kayle. She is...well I don't want to say worthless, but very lack lustre. She doesn't excel enough at any one thing to be worth the bother.

    Reginald plays her alot, and very well. He's of the opinion she's OP. Her ulti can really make the difference in team battles. I played a game recently as Kat, and had Kayle on my team. A Kayle Ulti on Kat when she ulti'd was a nice combo we used a few times.

    Here's a guide on her if you want.

    http://solomid.net/forums/index.php?/topic/207-kayle-the-new-op/page__s__6be2f1194cc139f625d98f7f4c10ca43

    I can see how she could be made workable, hell anything can with a little bit of luck and skill, but the claim that she's OP is just silly. There are much better power arrays out there.

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  • ZoelefZoelef Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Harlon wrote: »
    I'm looking at making a "catch-all" rune page now that I'm almost 20. I figure stats like health, magic resist, armor, cooldown, and dodge are helpful for all heroes, but how should I fill my page?

    Dodge fully negates physical attacks, but 6 * .75% is such a small number. Whereas armor gives more bang for its buck at lower numbers. Critical chance really helps out heroes like Gangplank, but every hero uses standard attacks. Would it help out the rest equally well, if bumped up 7%? How about cooldown? I assume the level-scaling version should be taken, since mana is generally an issue at lower levels. And quints is looking like +1 gold/10 seconds is the best all around.

    If I was stuck with exactly one rune page today, I would choose Desolation/Evasion/Celerity/Fortitude.

    Desolation is the least confident pick here but everyone autoattacks early and now that creeps have armor it will never be completely useless. You could go Insight on casters or Warding/Resilience on tanks if you were more committed in that direction.

    Evasion is always the best Seal if you know you're grabbing 4/4 Evasion + Nimbleness mastery. Its preference stems from occasionally dodging 100% of a crit instead of always mitigating another 1-6% of a critical hit. If you don't grab Nimbleness that often, Vitality and Resilience are a bit better overall, if only due to their lower IP costs.

    Celerity is chosen as cooldown is always useful. Focus is better as it's much more noticable early but costs twice as much as a Celerity rune. Warding/Shielding is solid on tanks, as is Force on casters.

    Fortitude is the true catch-all Quint; all champions like having an additional 80-120 health at spawn. Avarice is a fine choice if you're on a budget; the previous thread had a post pushing 3 Avarice Quints, the Greed Mastery, and a 5g/10sec item as an opening move.

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  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    By the way, how often do they cycle which heroes are available?

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  • SlicerSlicer Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    Kudos wrote: »
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    Really wish I hadn't spent 400 IP on Kayle. She is...well I don't want to say worthless, but very lack lustre. She doesn't excel enough at any one thing to be worth the bother.

    Reginald plays her alot, and very well. He's of the opinion she's OP. Her ulti can really make the difference in team battles. I played a game recently as Kat, and had Kayle on my team. A Kayle Ulti on Kat when she ulti'd was a nice combo we used a few times.

    Here's a guide on her if you want.

    http://solomid.net/forums/index.php?/topic/207-kayle-the-new-op/page__s__6be2f1194cc139f625d98f7f4c10ca43

    I can see how she could be made workable, hell anything can with a little bit of luck and skill, but the claim that she's OP is just silly. There are much better power arrays out there.

    Not to mention that guide was made before the nerf. I will agree that before the patch, her ultimate could get a bit ridiculous with enough cooldown reduction, but that was pretty much the only thing she had going for her.

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  • Custom SpecialCustom Special I know I am, I'm sure I am, I'm Sounders 'til I die!Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    By the way, how often do they cycle which heroes are available?

    Once a "week." Supposed to be a 10 hero, weekly cycle. However, I feel like we had the first set longer than a week (set two didn't roll out until the most recent patch).
    There's a rotation schedule on the LoL forums that says what champs are each week that I don't have time to link right now.

    In other news: PolloDiablo and Colt are added to OP.
    Anyone else not see your name, I'll try to be reading every page for add me posts.

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  • TyrantCowTyrantCow Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    i see how it is.

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  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Can add me to the OP as well.

    I'm Fiaryn in game. :)

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  • FeldornFeldorn Mediocre Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Bearcock be praised.

    but srsly, trynde is a beast now if you know how to play him. and he can still solo mid against a fairly aggressive ashe.

    katarina can go fuck the devil in hell (to steal a term from the DOW2 thread)

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  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Anyone have any thoughts on Nassus, item build/viability overall? He looks interesting but also perhaps a bit spread too thin. I don't want to waste IP on another Kayle :lol:

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  • Thrawn200Thrawn200 Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    Anyone have any thoughts on Nassus, item build/viability overall? He looks interesting but also perhaps a bit spread too thin. I don't want to waste IP on another Kayle :lol:


    Nassus is a very solid character. His slow is one of the best in the game, he is fantastic at pushing a lane early and his ult can turn a team fight if used well.

    As for builds, you'd have to do some looking around probably. I build him a bit oddly as more of an aura tank/support when I play him usually but it works for me so I've stuck with it. I've seen him built a LOT of different ways with success.

    My build is usually something like -

    Chalice of Harmony
    Mercury Treads
    Aegis of the Legion (although this was nerfed last patch, might not be good anymore?)
    Stark's Fervor
    Frozen Heart

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  • SlicerSlicer Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Since I notice it's not in the OP, my summoner name is Srice!


    I've only tried Nassus a few times but he seems fairly solid. Some nice area control with his fairly huge AOE, a good slowing ability, and his passive while not the best is still pretty useful.

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  • DracilDracil Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Summoner name is Dracil

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  • ShamusShamus Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    Anyone have any thoughts on Nassus, item build/viability overall? He looks interesting but also perhaps a bit spread too thin. I don't want to waste IP on another Kayle :lol:

    Nasus is one of my favorites. Here's an item build I've been playing around with, though you may want to start with a Meki's Pendant earlier for the mana regen.

    Rejuvenation Bead + 2 HP Pot & 1 MP Pot
    Boots of Speed & Emblem of Valor or Chalice of Harmony
    Sheen
    Mercury's Treads or Ninja Tabi (Depending on the match-up)
    Stark's Fervor

    It all depends on how the game is going. I've been able to farm the Stark's without ever leaving my lane once, and not needing any mana regen. (I have runes in mana regen, btw.) Other games, I've had to go back for the mana regen very early.

    From here I usually build a Sunfire Cape and/or Frozen Heart if I'm looking to tank more, or I build the rest of the Triforce, building the Phage next.

    Edit:
    Thrawn200 wrote: »
    Nassus is a very solid character. His slow is one of the best in the game, he is fantastic at pushing a lane early and his ult can turn a team fight if used well.

    As for builds, you'd have to do some looking around probably. I build him a bit oddly as more of an aura tank/support when I play him usually but it works for me so I've stuck with it. I've seen him built a LOT of different ways with success.

    My build is usually something like -

    Chalice of Harmony
    Mercury Treads
    Aegis of the Legion (although this was nerfed last patch, might not be good anymore?)
    Stark's Fervor
    Frozen Heart

    I've played dual Auras before. It's a lot of fun too.

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  • MugaazMugaaz Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Been playing this game for a few days now. Finally started playing non practice games and doing suprisingly well. Only hero I play is Ashe (since I find her easy to use). I'd like to expand my horizons, whats another easy to play character with a different playstyle?

    Also, this is the first DoTA game I've ever played, but a buddy of mine is really into HoN, how do these two compare?

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  • FeldornFeldorn Mediocre Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    teemo is pretty easy. he is also a filthy little bitch.

    ryze or annie are also good.

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  • Thrawn200Thrawn200 Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Mugaaz wrote: »
    Also, this is the first DoTA game I've ever played, but a buddy of mine is really into HoN, how do these two compare?

    Opinions will vary and likely start flame wars. :P

    My short and simple opinions as someone that never played DoTA and has played LoL and HoN. HoN is better polished and feels more "finished", however the community feels like it's mostly elitest pricks. LoL is more fun and has a much better community, but the game feels like it's still in beta and needs work.

    I think they are both good games and it will just come down to personal preference.

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  • SlicerSlicer Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Thrawn200 wrote: »
    Mugaaz wrote: »
    Also, this is the first DoTA game I've ever played, but a buddy of mine is really into HoN, how do these two compare?

    Opinions will vary and likely start flame wars. :P

    My short and simple opinions as someone that never played DoTA and has played LoL and HoN. HoN is better polished and feels more "finished", however the community feels like it's mostly elitest pricks. LoL is more fun and has a much better community, but the game feels like it's still in beta and needs work.

    To be fair, HoN had a lot more to start out with seeing as how it's mostly an upgraded version of Dota and they don't even try to hide it, evening saying in patch notes that certain new heroes are based on specific Dota heroes. LoL had to basically start from scratch with its hero design so it's not too surprising that it feels like it needs much more work.

    I do think that in the long run LoL will be the better game. And on a side note I'm glad LoL doesn't show your ELO rating as I believe that showing your rating in HoN was one of the many reasons that most of the playerbase would rage so much (also allowing pubstomps to boost PSR? That's an incredibly retarded move there and it's because of that crap that I don't mind LoL's matchmaking too much).

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  • reVersereVerse Attack and Dethrone God Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Slicer wrote: »
    Thrawn200 wrote: »
    Mugaaz wrote: »
    Also, this is the first DoTA game I've ever played, but a buddy of mine is really into HoN, how do these two compare?

    Opinions will vary and likely start flame wars. :P

    My short and simple opinions as someone that never played DoTA and has played LoL and HoN. HoN is better polished and feels more "finished", however the community feels like it's mostly elitest pricks. LoL is more fun and has a much better community, but the game feels like it's still in beta and needs work.

    To be fair, HoN had a lot more to start out with seeing as how it's mostly an upgraded version of Dota and they don't even try to hide it, evening saying in patch notes that certain new heroes are based on specific Dota heroes. LoL had to basically start from scratch with its hero design so it's not too surprising that it feels like it needs much more work.

    I do think that in the long run LoL will be the better game. And on a side note I'm glad LoL doesn't show your ELO rating as I believe that showing your rating in HoN was one of the many reasons that most of the playerbase would rage so much (also allowing pubstomps to boost PSR? That's an incredibly retarded move there and it's because of that crap that I don't mind LoL's matchmaking too much).

    Why couldn't LoL use DotA heroes directly as a basis for their heroes but HoN could? I mean, technically, most of the heroes in LoL have a very definite "yup, it's that hero from DotA with a switched ability or two" feel to them.

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