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Final Fantasy XIII, out 12/17 in Japan

Vincent GraysonVincent Grayson Frederick, MDRegistered User regular
edited December 2009 in Games and Technology
Doing a pretty bare-bones OP here, just to give us a place to talk about the game.

There's a good site here with a number of little things translated: http://www.zankaku.com/

Several gameplay videos here:

Seventeen Minutes of Gameplay (immediately following the end of the demo)- http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/27404

Fal'cie Boss Battle (plus post-battle cutscene)- http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/27406

Crystal Boss (spoilers here) - http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/27407

Robot Crystal Boss - http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/27408

Ruins Gameplay - http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/27409

Shiva Summon Battle - http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/27410

Also, while of course we're talking about the game and there will be spoilers, I expect them all to be sealed under a spoiler tag. This isn't open spoiler zone, and label them accordingly. I don't want some prick spoiling the ending when the rest of us are just talking about the first few hours.

I'll be importing the game, and hopefully will have my copy by Friday. As soon as I can I'll be posting impressions.

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  • BartholamueBartholamue Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Do you know japanese?

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  • KastanjKastanj __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2009
    Shit, that's tomorrow. I wonder if there is some English-speaking gentleman either importing or living in Japan who will provide a fount of info and maybe even videos. I'm not that afraid of spoilers honestly.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I guess I'll spoiler this, just in case
    Shiva bike might be too much

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  • Vincent GraysonVincent Grayson Frederick, MDRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Do you know japanese?

    I've got a few semesters under my belt. I shouldn't have much trouble with the menus, but I'm not counting on understanding the finer points of the plot without translations.

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Kastanj wrote: »
    Shit, that's tomorrow. I wonder if there is some English-speaking gentleman either importing or living in Japan who will provide a font of info and maybe even videos. I'm no that afraid of spoilers honestly.
    It's tomorrow in Japan already, isn't it?

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  • hottoqhottoq Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Boo, why can't they do English localization concurrently with the Japanese version? For something this big, you'd think it wouldn't be that difficult!

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  • Vincent GraysonVincent Grayson Frederick, MDRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Kastanj wrote: »
    Shit, that's tomorrow. I wonder if there is some English-speaking gentleman either importing or living in Japan who will provide a font of info and maybe even videos. I'm no that afraid of spoilers honestly.
    It's tomorrow in Japan already, isn't it?

    Maybe? There's definitely people that have it already and are streaming gameplay on places like Justin.tv and USTREAM.

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  • Vincent GraysonVincent Grayson Frederick, MDRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    hottoq wrote: »
    Boo, why can't they do English localization concurrently with the Japanese version? For something this big, you'd think it wouldn't be that difficult!

    We're getting it only 3 months after launch, which is a record for a Final Fantasy game.

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  • hottoqhottoq Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Yes but 3 months is still too long! :) I would complain about 3 weeks for an FF game.

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  • APZonerunnerAPZonerunner Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Just a warning, what I know is the end boss is already online in the form of an image.

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  • Vincent GraysonVincent Grayson Frederick, MDRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Just a warning, what I know is the end boss is already online in the form of an image.

    I'd already heard a spoiler naming said boss and was hoping it was just made up, but I guess it likely isn't. Some of the ending has been spoiled as well, although who knows if it's legit or not.

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  • APZonerunnerAPZonerunner Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Does what you've heard involve
    a death?

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  • Vincent GraysonVincent Grayson Frederick, MDRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Does what you've heard involve
    a death?

    It does :(

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  • lionheart_mlionheart_m Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    So for mechanics and such will we have to brave this thread or can we see that in the other FF thread? Truth be told I just want to know the finer details of the battle system and the new level up system.

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  • Vincent GraysonVincent Grayson Frederick, MDRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    So for mechanics and such will we have to brave this thread or can we see that in the other FF thread? Truth be told I just want to know the finer details of the battle system and the new level up system.

    What do you want to know?

    The battle system is a lot like FFX-2's. Combat is fast-paced, you move around the battlefield (which can influence how AOE spells hit), and the "Optima Change" system is essentially a group job-change system which can be used on-the-fly.

    You setup your Optima ahead of time, so one might have three characters as "Attackers", and then in a second config have one Attacker, one Defender and one Healer. In battle, you can switch quickly between the two, with each role having different spells/abilities.

    You learn new abilities and get stat increases via the Crystalium/Crystarium system which is like the Sphere Grid. You earn CP in battle which are spent to move around the grid. Each node carries an ability or a stat increase, and you get to each one by way spending CP to move along the lines between them.

    So, if you have a line between where you are an "HP + 70", and that line takes 60 CP to move along, you can start moving along it as soon as you have any CP...but you need to spend all 60 to get to the next node and activate it. Moving back to previous nodes costs nothing (unlike the sphere grid).

    Each "role" has its' own set of lines/nodes and is leveled independently.

    I'm not yet entirely certain how they level, but I got the impression it comes with hitting points in the story, rather than grinding.

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  • lionheart_mlionheart_m Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    So, there's no switching between characters this time around?

    Also, are there any kind of limit breaks at all?

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  • Vincent GraysonVincent Grayson Frederick, MDRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    So, there's no switching between characters this time around?

    Also, are there any kind of limit breaks at all?

    Nope, you only control one character in battle.

    I haven't heard anything about limit breaks, but I believe the summons have some big attack each that can be used in Driving Mode.

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  • lionheart_mlionheart_m Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    So, the jobs come with predefined AI routines? Anyway to fine tune them pre-combat or are you stuck with what the game offers?

    Regardless, it sounds nice that you're able to switch AI/jobs on the fly during combat.

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  • YougottawannaYougottawanna Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I guess I'll buy it....I prefer the lower-tech FF settings though.

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  • Vincent GraysonVincent Grayson Frederick, MDRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    So, the jobs come with predefined AI routines? Anyway to fine tune them pre-combat or are you stuck with what the game offers?

    Regardless, it sounds nice that you're able to switch AI/jobs on the fly during combat.

    I haven't seen anything about how the AI works, so I assume it just runs things on its own. It seems to be reasonably smart about popping off heals quickly when tasked as a healer. Healing is pretty fast since you can do a simple cure spell with a single slice of the ATB bar.

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  • APZonerunnerAPZonerunner Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Alright, keeping up with this one.

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  • YougottawannaYougottawanna Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I gotta say, seeing the redhead in that video makes me see why some people are so into this "kawaii" thing

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  • vagrant_windsvagrant_winds Overworked Mysterious Eldritch Horror Hunter XX Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    The battle system is a lot like FFX-2's.

    You sold me right there.

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  • CokebotleCokebotle 穴掘りの 電車内Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Goddamn, I hope I can find a copy today. :(

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I guess I'll spoiler this, just in case
    Shiva bike might be too much
    Might?
    Two naked women scissoring while a man sits on them with his crotch in one of their faces might be too much?

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  • The Dude With HerpesThe Dude With Herpes Lehi, UTRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Blackjack wrote: »
    I guess I'll spoiler this, just in case
    Shiva bike might be too much
    Might?
    Two naked women scissoring while a man sits on them with his crotch in one of their faces might be too much?

    There's a joke here.

    With all that hotness.

    And them being ice element.

    But I've been puking and shitting my innards out the past few days and it's just not coming to me.

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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    The battle system is a lot like FFX-2's



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  • CokebotleCokebotle 穴掘りの 電車内Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Just got a copy. I'm gonna load it up and give you guys some impressions in a bit, if you want.

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  • RoriProfessorRoriProfessor Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I don't suppose there's anyone doing a live stream along with a translation commentary is there?

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Cokebotle wrote: »
    Just got a copy. I'm gonna load it up and give you guys some impressions in a bit, if you want.

    You beat it yet? Need to hurry before the price collapses! :P

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  • Vincent GraysonVincent Grayson Frederick, MDRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I don't suppose there's anyone doing a live stream along with a translation commentary is there?

    I haven't seen any yet, no. All the streams I've found are being done by Japanese people. There was one entertaining dude who kept calling Sazh "Afuro".

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  • CygnusZCygnusZ Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I picked it up at Bic Camera today after work. When I came they still had plenty of games left, and the line to the register was around 30 people long. Still, I don't think that anybody who wanted to buy a copy opening day had any kind of problem.

    I'll pop the game in a bit later tonight, but I really don't want to hear any spoilers. I've deliberately stayed away from all information about this game.

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  • SnowblindvictimSnowblindvictim Flying casual Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    The battle system is a lot like FFX-2's.

    You sold me right there.

    The only good thing about FFX-2
    And the uhh "story"
    :winky:

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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Love!

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  • CokebotleCokebotle 穴掘りの 電車内Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Ok, a few thoughts after playing it for about 2 hours or so. Not sure if anything here is a spoiler or not, so I'll be safe anyways.
    First off, the game is goddamn gorgeous. Soooooo much eye candy.

    Second, the battle system is pretty cool overall. Takes a little getting used to and has some interesting stuff in it.

    Um... the only complaint I have so far? The traditional FF Battle theme is gone D:

    Oh, and there's already a character I wanna throw off a goddamn cliff >.<

    Anything specific you guys wanna know?

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Cokebotle wrote: »
    Ok, a few thoughts after playing it for about 2 hours or so. Not sure if anything here is a spoiler or not, so I'll be safe anyways.
    First off, the game is goddamn gorgeous. Soooooo much eye candy.

    Second, the battle system is pretty cool overall. Takes a little getting used to and has some interesting stuff in it.

    Um... the only complaint I have so far? The traditional FF Battle theme is gone D:

    Oh, and there's already a character I wanna throw off a goddamn cliff >.<

    Anything specific you guys wanna know?

    I want to know about the magic system. I haven't seen much except for the characters throwing glowing frisbees. Do you still have spell tiers and all that?

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  • hottoqhottoq Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    What I want to know is, is the story any good, does it hold up all the way through to the end, and are the characters interesting?

    FF12 was a major letdown in all respects re: the story/characters, IMO.

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  • CokebotleCokebotle 穴掘りの 電車内Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Dragkonias
    You actually have to unlock the magic system through the story, and I just got it, so I don't know too much yet. It doesn't look like you have "tiers" so much as "advancement paths" to take. If you want more info, I'll say it.

    hottoq
    Um... I haven't beaten it and my Japanese isn't 100%, so there's bits that I can't follow, but it appears to be pretty standard FF fare. I'm only about 2.5 hours in, though.

    Seriously, though. One character I want to slaughter already because he's a whiny bitch.

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Cokebotle wrote: »
    Dragkonias
    You actually have to unlock the magic system through the story, and I just got it, so I don't know too much yet. It doesn't look like you have "tiers" so much as "advancement paths" to take. If you want more info, I'll say it.

    hottoq
    Um... I haven't beaten it and my Japanese isn't 100%, so there's bits that I can't follow, but it appears to be pretty standard FF fare. I'm only about 2.5 hours in, though.

    Seriously, though. One character I want to slaughter already because he's a whiny bitch.

    Is that character Hope?

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