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major issues with my parents

no entiendono entiendo Registered User new member
edited December 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
Okay, so this might sound a bit crazy, but please hear me out.

Background: I've been living with my parents for about a year now since graduating college. I don't have a very good relationship with them. I feel like they still treat me like a child, despite my being in my early 20s, and don't trust me to do anything myself. However I've never had very high self esteem, and being out of work for a year hasn't helped, so I know that these issues with my parents are at least partly my fault. We rarely talk about these problems. Mostly I just try and hide how I feel, and I don't really know how much they're aware of it.

Problem: This is where things start getting weird. My parents cook most of the meals I eat and buy pretty much all the food in the house. Lately, I've started to notice that a lot of the things I eat seem to have some kind of greyish powder in them. Especially deserts, which my mom buys/cooks a lot of, and which I'm the only one who really eats. It's suspicious, because I can't figure out what it is and I wouldn't have thought it was a natural ingredient in things like apple pie.

Last night, for example, my mom tells me there's a pie (store bought rather than home made) in the kitchen and I should have some. When I take it out, I notice that part of the crust is broken, and that there's this grey powder underneath it. I look under some of the unbroken crust, no grey powder. Then, and this is what's really got me freaked out, I look in some of the cupboards and find a small bottle of what looks very much like the same grey powder, with no label on it.

So at this point, I'm honestly kind of scared. I realize that it could be nothing, and despite our screwed-up relationship I would have a hard time believing they'd try to harm me. However, I have to face the fact that it looks like they're trying to secretly slip me some sort of drug or chemical, and I have no idea what it is. I'm not sure what's more disturbing, the fact that I'm so screwed up and paranoid that I think my parents are trying to poison me, or the fact that they actually might be.

I think I should also say that although I know this sounds crazy, I am not a troll, and this is a real request for help and advice. What do I do? I don't want to confront them about it without more evidence, but I'm not sure how much longer I can go on just pretending everything's normal.

TLDR: Are my parents trying to kill me, or am I just going batshit loco insane?

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  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    You're crazy.

    That being said, you could always pocket the bottle you found and see what happens. Or if you don't mind seeming a little crazy, confront them about it.

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  • AldoAldo Hippo Hooray Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    We don't have enough information to decide if you're nuts or you're being poisoned by your own mother.

    I would like to advice you to help your mother with cooking starting now. That will (1) make you feel more useful (2) make your parents think you're not utterly useless (3) you'll find out what the gray powder is and (4) you'll learn how to cook, something that is very useful when you start to live on your own.

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  • Aoi TsukiAoi Tsuki Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Aldo wrote: »
    I would like to advice you to help your mother with cooking starting now.

    While anything is technically possible, odds are heavily fucking stacked on it being your imagination, or something harmless. If - as your OP suggests - you have too much time on your hands, not enough mental occupation, and poor to no communication with your mom, helping her with the cooking will go a long way.

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  • MindLibMindLib Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Why are you tiptoeing around, just take the bottle, be a cock. Make them kick you out. That was the best years of my life between 20-22. Just hang out and drink and play video games and be belligerent. Identify the substance, just straight up ask them. Get your suspicions into the out and open. Stop holding all this crap inside.

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  • AddaAdda LondonRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Don't ask your parents if they are poisoning you, really the worst advice ever.

    Help out more around the house until you find a job (which you really should try and do as soon as possible), get your self esteem up and move into your own place.

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  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    well, instead of that, you could ask "hey mom what's this grey stuff I notice you using?"

    but the whole thing really doesn't make that much sense. If they actually wanted to poison you they would use something that you don't need to eat repeatedly over a long period of time. Like arsenic or something.

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  • Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    It does sound crazy. I'm not sure we can really help you over the internet on this one... If you're really unsure, then your best bet is to go see a professional and talk to them about everything.

    We really can't advise you to do things like scrape up the powder and take it to some lab to get it checked, because if you have psychological issues then that type of behavior will just feed into the illness. However, if they actually are harming you, then a professional therapist can help you sort it all out.

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  • AnarchiaAnarchia Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    There's also the possibility that this grey powder is completely benign. It could be anything from vitamins to some sort of fiber supplement. I've seen plenty of fiber things that you're supposed to be able to add to anything, but the idea is to cook it into something instead of just sprinkling it on top. Your parents possibly decided to "help" you without telling you, although that wouldn't really be all that nice on their end.

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  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    "Treating you like a child and not trusting you to do anything youself" points to them giving you some kind of supplement for your health.

    Honestly, if they wanted to poison you, you'd probably be dead by now.

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  • MindLibMindLib Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Anarchia wrote: »
    There's also the possibility that this grey powder is completely benign. It could be anything from vitamins to some sort of fiber supplement. I've seen plenty of fiber things that you're supposed to be able to add to anything, but the idea is to cook it into something instead of just sprinkling it on top. Your parents possibly decided to "help" you without telling you, although that wouldn't really be all that nice on their end.

    If it is this, it's only representative of a suffocating presence on their part. Shed them, with knives.

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  • SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2009
    Either ask her what the grey stuff is, or just start slipping it into their food and watch the reaction. If she slings her plate across the room and screams bloody murder and slaps your dads fork away from his mouth and then looks at you and wants to know how you like the chicken... something's amiss.

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Sheep wrote: »
    Either ask her what the grey stuff is, or just start slipping it into their food and watch the reaction. If she slings her plate across the room and screams bloody murder and slaps your dads fork away from his mouth and then looks at you and wants to know how you like the chicken... something's amiss.

    I'm not sure if this is the best idea but it's one I would do.

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  • RetconnRetconn __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2009
    Could be a libido represser?

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  • AldoAldo Hippo Hooray Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Sheep wrote: »
    Either ask her what the grey stuff is, or just start slipping it into their food and watch the reaction. If she slings her plate across the room and screams bloody murder and slaps your dads fork away from his mouth and then looks at you and wants to know how you like the chicken... something's amiss.
    Assuming the gray stuff is not lethal: if it's his parents trying to help him without telling him that will just add to the complete lack of communication going on. Might as well ask directly and save yourself the passive-agressiveness.

    If they do want to kill you in a slow and cruel way I think then no matter how you'll find out what the gray stuff is, they will stab you to death in your sleep with a rusty kitchen knife after they realise you're on to them.

    I'm having kind of a hard time believing the OP's parents are going to murder their own blood in a slow and cruel way. It sounds a bit too much like a cheesy thriller movie.

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  • dwwatermelondwwatermelon Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Odds are high that you're being paranoid. If your parents wanted to poison you there are much better and less detectable ways. Would they really leave their bottle of poison sitting around where you could find it?

    I think this whole scenario is just something you've concocted in your head because you feel like a useless freeloader taking advantage of your parents even though you don't like them that much. You imagine (probably correctly) that they resent you and wish you would leave, but I think they would rather you get a job than die.

    On that note, get a job, get an apartment, get some friends and move on with your life. It's time.

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  • VThornheartVThornheart Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I'd probably have sugar-coated it a bit more than DWWatermelon, but I agree with his analysis on every single point he made. Read what he said carefully, take it as hard but genuine wisdom, and then act on his advice. That would be the best advice I could give you right now.

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  • useless4useless4 Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I would go with paranoid honestly, someplace somewhere there are parents who try to poison their kids and you don't want to be the one statistic. (sorry, not you ARE paranoid but it's a good time to BE paranoid)

    Ask them straight out.
    Honestly here are various ways it can play out :

    "We're not poisoning you... are you crazy?!?! we should get you help" *they care
    "Oh honey you are imagining things, have some more pie" *possibly poisoning you
    "Yes" *quit eating pie.

    Seriously, I know kids who parents have tried to poison them as little children.

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  • AldoAldo Hippo Hooray Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    useless4 wrote: »
    I would go with paranoid honestly, someplace somewhere there are parents who try to poison their kids and you don't want to be the one statistic. (sorry, not you ARE paranoid but it's a good time to BE paranoid)

    Ask them straight out.
    Honestly here are various ways it can play out :

    "We're not poisoning you... are you crazy?!?! we should get you help" *they care
    "Oh honey you are imagining things, have some more pie" *possibly poisoning you
    "Yes" *quit eating pie.

    Seriously, I know kids who parents have tried to poison them as little children.
    Option 3: You're an honest to god dumbfuck, I regret the day I gave birth to you. *back at square one.

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  • Sunday_AssassinSunday_Assassin Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    start cooking for yourself

    you should be doing this by now anyway btw

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  • VThornheartVThornheart Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I have to disagree with you useless4. It's really not a good time to be paranoid: in honesty, hearing the story in the OP my first instinct was that the OP is likely in need of psychological help. The odds that your parents would try to poison you, especially given the nature of the situation, is insanely low... low enough that it's probably not even a thought worth entertaining.

    The important and valuable advice you should be listening to is the advice of dwwatermelon. You're not going to help yourself with this situation (the real situation being extreme paranoia) unless you hoist yourself up and start taking control of your own life. It might not be a comfortable situation... you might have to take a job you don't want to take, and you might live meagerly for a while... but you'll be living under your own power and under your own terms: and that sense of knowing that you *can* actually take care of yourself will likely make many situations in your life much easier to deal with.

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  • DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited December 2009
    does it look like this?

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  • CorvusCorvus . VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Ask your mum whats the bottle is. Maybe they're on some crazy diet kick and adding this stuff to all the food.

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  • DHS OdiumDHS Odium Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Is there some place you could get it tested? Take a little in a bag and bring it there, or bring it to a health place and see if they can identify it.

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  • TayaTaya Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Don't ask if they're poisoning you. That's just crazy talk.

    My advice is to find the bottle when your Mom is in the kitchen and say, "what kind of spice is this? I notice you use it a lot" or "is this salt?" or something nonchalant like that.

    Did you watch Rosemary's Baby recently?

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2009
    I'm going to go with maybe some sort of fiber or flaxseed.

    But seriously, just directly ask them and say "hey, what's this?".

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  • GarickGarick Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    lol... I don't think asking them what it is will help at all...

    Case 1. Not poison
    Hey mom, what's this?
    Just some flaxseed sweety!

    Case 2. Poison
    Hey mom, what's this?
    Just some flaxseed sweety!

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Garick wrote: »
    lol... I don't think asking them what it is will help at all...

    Case 1. Not poison
    Hey mom, what's this?
    Just some flaxseed sweety!

    Case 2. Poison
    Hey mom, what's this?
    Just some flaxseed sweety!

    Yes, let's shut down all lines of communication with the parents. That will most certainly help.

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  • TayaTaya Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    While it's certainly possible for them to lie if confronted, I think it's the best thing to do first. Accusing them of poisoning him, stashing the mysterious bottle, or possibly sending it to some lab for testing is just ridiculous.

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  • SmokeStacksSmokeStacks Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Give us one good reason why you're still living with your parents.

    Plenty of people can make it in this economy without a college education, so I can't really see what your excuse is. Go find a job. Apply everywhere and get a shitty job waiting tables or bagging groceries or working retail. Get a shitty apartment, be poor, make friends, party every weekend, eat crappy food and don't go to the doctor. Get laid, live paycheck to paycheck, stress out about everything, learn the local bus schedule, hang out with your friends, and have a good time. Welcome to your twenties.

    Maybe your parents are slowly poisoning you, or maybe your dad has rough shits and now your mom is spiking all of his (and since you don't cook for yourself, this means by extension your) food with fibercon or something. Who knows, and who cares? Move out, and it won't be a problem anymore.

    Maybe you majored in something obtuse like "guy who designs nozzles to maintain perfect airflow for space shuttle toilets" or something, and your chosen career path may not have a lot of openings right now. Big deal. Maybe you won't find a job in your chosen career path for another year. But, if you stay at home until that time comes, you're going to be that guy who lives with his parents in a year. If you do what I said above, you'll have friends, a job, a few bucks, and an actual life in a year.

    tl;dr - Get a job, any job, right now. Move out. Spend your off time growing up and looking for a better job.

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  • Bionic MonkeyBionic Monkey Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2009
    Give us one good reason why you're still living with your parents.

    10%+ unemployment.

    Seriously, telling someone to just get a job and move out is all well and good, but actually doing it is something else entirely in this economy. There's a reason the government had to extend unemployment benefits.
    It's not because everybody on them is just lazy.

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  • SmokeStacksSmokeStacks Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    If the dude hasn't been able to find even a minimum wage job in the past year, well, maybe he's got bigger problems.

    The first post tells us that he has confidence issues, and is being coddled by his parents. The best thing he could do is get a job and leave the house.

    I know the economy is shitty, but odds are somebody in his town is hiring for something, and if he actually looks and keeps looking, sooner or later he'll find it.

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  • Bionic MonkeyBionic Monkey Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2009
    Before I got laid off, the last job my work was hiring for, we got 100+ applications, and it was for a part-time, $9 an hour job. We got people with PhD's applying for our $9 an hour customer service job. Of course somebody in his town is hiring. The problem is, in a town of 10,000 people, he'd be competing with 1000 other people for the same, shitty, minimum wage job.

    He's got problems, yes. But let's not act like he's some kind of dysfunctional person just because he can't get a job right now.

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  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    no joke, it's all about location when it comes to job-finding
    i lived in NY recently and couldn't find a job for the life of me, and i applied everywhere, fast food/retail/big box stores/malls etc. living in the middle of nowhere has many more job openings thanks to less competition. hell i know people up here with multiple jobs.
    please don't make assumptions on limited information

    as for the poisoning thing, just ask you mom what it is silly

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  • SmokeStacksSmokeStacks Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Even if he has a one in a thousand shot at getting a job he is applying for, if he sits around at his house, he has a zero in a thousand shot. A crappy economy is no excuse to not look for work.

    If he is not in school, and is not working, then his freetime activities should include a considerable amount of job hunting. If he looks he might find it, if he doesn't, he won't. It's pretty clear cut.

    Right now we've got a dude who is essentially a manchild, who really needs to get out of the house even if his parent's aren't trying to poison him.

    I don't care where you live, if you can't find a job after a year of looking (and looking is what he is supposed to have been doing for the past year), then the problem is with you, not with the economy.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    SmokeStacks, get out of the thread, you're not being helpful.

    Everyone else, stay on-topic.

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  • HozHoz Cool Cat Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    It's more likely that they're under the impression this powder will cure you of your homosexuality.

    Find a small rodent, feed it the powder and then gauge the shift in gayness (a second rodent might be needed for this part).

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  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    you are also assuming he could support himself with any job, which is bullshit
    working at a fast food place will not garner anywhere near enough money to live off of, even at full time. it's great you think jobs magically go to the right person but in a highly populated low-income area the competition can be overwhelming. you shouldn't assume he's doing nothing and place the blame squarely on him, it can be any combination of circumstances

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  • SmokeStacksSmokeStacks Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Thanatos wrote: »
    SmokeStacks, get out of the thread, you're not being helpful.

    Everyone else, stay on-topic.

    I don't know how trying to convince someone to find a job and move out of their parent's house so they can get their life started while they're in their twenties is "not helping", but have it your way, I'm out.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    you are also assuming he could support himself with any job, which is bullshit
    working at a fast food place will not garner anywhere near enough money to live off of, even at full time. it's great you think jobs magically go to the right person but in a highly populated low-income area the competition can be overwhelming. you shouldn't assume he's doing nothing and place the blame squarely on him, it can be any combination of circumstances
    I'm sure by this point, the OP understands that his best move is to get a job and move out of the house. If that's all you have to talk about, don't bother.

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  • GarickGarick Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Garick wrote: »
    lol... I don't think asking them what it is will help at all...

    Case 1. Not poison
    Hey mom, what's this?
    Just some flaxseed sweety!

    Case 2. Poison
    Hey mom, what's this?
    Just some flaxseed sweety!

    Yes, let's shut down all lines of communication with the parents. That will most certainly help.

    Would you like to list a positive effect of asking the parents what it is? You seem to have completely missed the point of the example. He can not trust whatever answer they give him, leaving him with the exact same question before he asked. Personally, I doubt it's actually poison, but regardless, a trustworthy person certainly does not hide unlabeled powders in someones food.

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