Ok, guys. Fallout 3. Srsly? This good?

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  • Kris_xKKris_xK Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Ferrus wrote: »
    Neva wrote: »
    Anyone that didn't like Fallout 3 obviously did not install Mart's Mutant Mod. There's also a few music packs that replace most of the music, some with old Fallout music (which made the game more enjoyable).

    First Rule of any Bethesda game: Never buy the console version.
    Second Rule of any Bethesda game: Install some goddamn mods.


    I mean, honestly, I rented the 360 version of FO3 and it was... well, it wasn't bad but it certainly was lacking. And bugged as all fuck.

    Amen brother.

    I originally bought the 360 version. It was fine, I still enjoyed it and finished the game with it. I even kept playing and bought all the DLCs for it.

    Then I borrowed my buddies PC version, reinstalled the DLC and installed some mods. It was 1000000000X times better.

    Seriously, the mods make Bethesda games so much better.

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  • StormwatcherStormwatcher Blegh BlughRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Dyscord wrote: »
    Pheezer wrote: »
    I wonder what FPS games the OP has been playing. Maybe Wolfenstein 3D or Blake Stone. Because anything made after 1996 is better than FO3 at the FPS part. I mean, I liked FO3 a lot, but the shooting was the weakest part for sure. And it has too many RPG variants affecting the shooting to be considered an FPS per se.

    This is actually one of the things I like about it. And it's an fps because I'm playing it in first person perspective and I'm shooting a lot of guys. Just because it's not a twitch based excuse for 13 year oldsters to shout racial and sexual epithets at you does not mean it is not an fps and it certainly doesn't make it a bad one either.

    It might LOOK like an FPS. But it certainly does not WORK like an FPS. It is a first person RPG. Stats and dice rolls affect your ability to shoot something. You might miss even if the crosshair is spot on the target. Oblivion had bows and spells, and you shoot those at enemies. So it's an FPS too? That would be a pretty stupid definition.

    And bitching that a game with about 100hs of free play is linear because of a 10 minute sequence is pretty stupid too.

    Now that I think about it, this was actually one of my big problems with the game from a design standpoint. Maybe it's that the corsshairs were small and didn't reflect your accuracy very well, but I was really annoyed that the game would cause you to "miss" when you'd center the gun and start firing (particularly when zoomed in, this was annoying.)

    Yeah, it was completely independent of your actions. The hit or miss chance has no relation to crosshair size. It was a dice roll. Just like it happens on RPGs.

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  • Darius BlackDarius Black Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Kris_xK wrote: »
    Ferrus wrote: »
    Neva wrote: »
    Anyone that didn't like Fallout 3 obviously did not install Mart's Mutant Mod. There's also a few music packs that replace most of the music, some with old Fallout music (which made the game more enjoyable).

    First Rule of any Bethesda game: Never buy the console version.
    Second Rule of any Bethesda game: Install some goddamn mods.


    I mean, honestly, I rented the 360 version of FO3 and it was... well, it wasn't bad but it certainly was lacking. And bugged as all fuck.

    Amen brother.

    I originally bought the 360 version. It was fine, I still enjoyed it and finished the game with it. I even kept playing and bought all the DLCs for it.

    Then I borrowed my buddies PC version, reinstalled the DLC and installed some mods. It was 1000000000X times better.

    Seriously, the mods make Bethesda games so much better.

    There are so many awesome mods for this game. I've always sort of resented Bethesda for not putting in that little bit of extra effort to make their games perfect, and for making some poor design decisions that the modding community has to eventually fix. But they do excel at one thing, and that's attention to detail. The DC wasteland is so meticulously detailed in almost every aspect that it sucks you in and makes you want to live there. Not to mention that the scenery itself is a post-apoc fan's wet dream. I simply love the open-ended world they created. There were definitely some things that I would have changed had I been developing it, but in the end most of those things have been addressed by the modding community, so I have little reason to complain.

    In the meantime, Fallout 3 holds the record for the longest I've ever played a single-player game.

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  • StormwatcherStormwatcher Blegh BlughRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Pheezer wrote: »
    Yeah so you're an absolute cunt huh? How's that working for ya?

    I could point out that I wasn't bitching or calling the game linear but since you've made it clear that you're not interested in any interpretations of reality save for your personally twisted one I'm just going to ignore anything you have to say from here on out.

    Ok, I admit I exaggerated the "linear" comment, I had confused some other comment about linearity.

    But FO3 is an FPS as much as GTA is a racing sim. Actually, it's less. And the hysterical aggressive teenager thing isn't really cute, you know.

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  • SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2009
    Fallout 3 was great when I played it as a starving denizen of the Wasteland, practically ignored the main quest as much as possible, and literally had to scavenge for caps, ammo, food, etc.

    The game was not quite as good when I started over as a bad ass mother fucker, stole everything from everyone, and generally whooped ass. Lost some of the ambiance in the process.

    EDIT

    I've only played the 360 version. Couldn't tell ya about the PC and the Mods and the stuff.

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  • KitsurubamiKitsurubami Winnipeg, MBRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Fallout 3 is about ten times better with FOOK2 installed.

    The weapons have some kick to them, things are more balanced overall (except perhaps in how good stimpacks suddenly are), and there's a TON of new gear.

    Really, this is how the game should have been on release. I actually die, now. A lot, really, since some of the guns you find enemies using are kind of terrifying. Stumbling into a squad of Talon Mercs is now more than free bottlecaps.

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  • Wet BanditWet Bandit Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Pheezer wrote: »
    Yeah so you're an absolute cunt huh? How's that working for ya?

    I could point out that I wasn't bitching or calling the game linear but since you've made it clear that you're not interested in any interpretations of reality save for your personally twisted one I'm just going to ignore anything you have to say from here on out.

    Ok, I admit I exaggerated the "linear" comment, I had confused some other comment about linearity.

    But FO3 is an FPS as much as GTA is a racing sim. Actually, it's less. And the hysterical aggressive teenager thing isn't really cute, you know.

    Get a room you two.

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  • StormwatcherStormwatcher Blegh BlughRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Fallout 3 is about ten times better with FOOK2 installed.

    The weapons have some kick to them, things are more balanced overall (except perhaps in how good stimpacks suddenly are), and there's a TON of new gear.

    Really, this is how the game should have been on release. I actually die, now. A lot, really, since some of the guns you find enemies using are kind of terrifying. Stumbling into a squad of Talon Mercs is now more than free bottlecaps.

    Man, I love mods, but I always get cold feet about installing those huge multi-part complex mod packs. I stopped playing FO3 anyway, after the main quest scripting in MZ got so fucking broken I can't even begin to find the pieces.

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  • Lord YodLord Yod Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Fallout 3 didn't get everything right, but the things that it did are so right that it keeps me coming back for more. Played it on PS3 since I didn't have a workable PC at the time, probably pick up the PC version now since it's on sale. Wonderful fuckin game.

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  • PheezerPheezer Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2009
    Okay so what are some good mods guys

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  • korodullinkorodullin What. SCRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Fallout 3 GOTY is on sale?

    God dammit. Now I have to get it.

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  • Lord YodLord Yod Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    korodullin wrote: »
    Fallout 3 GOTY is on sale?

    God dammit. Now I have to get it.

    Yep

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  • KitsurubamiKitsurubami Winnipeg, MBRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Pheezer wrote: »
    Okay so what are some good mods guys

    FOOK2 is like a mega-mod pack. It revamps skills, repair, weapons, lots of stuff. I highly recommend it.

    There's some nice graphical packs, too, if you're not into the whole 'dusty overcast' feel. I love it, personally, but there's mods to make the world feel 'warmer', and a couple that even add some greenery.

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  • NarianNarian Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Lord Yod wrote: »
    korodullin wrote: »
    Fallout 3 GOTY is on sale?

    God dammit. Now I have to get it.

    Yep

    Bought.

    Aside from FOOK2, what about Mart's Monster Mod?

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  • freakish lightfreakish light butterdick jones and his heavenly asshole machineRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Pheezer wrote: »
    Okay so what are some good mods guys

    there is an actual honest-to-god thread on this very topic

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