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I'm thinking about starting my project again

RaslinRaslin Registered User regular
edited January 2007 in Games and Technology
Non-descript titles for the win!

Anyways, off and on for a while, I've been toying with the idea of doing something that everyone I know has wanted to see done. A real pokemon game in 3d. I've started work on it a couple times, but like most things I start that would take a long time to do, I get distracted and put it away.

Well, I'm thinking about starting again. I'm not trying to make money, or get fame over it, but its something that would give me some creativity in creation, improve my skills in game creation(I do the 3d stuff, but can learn some rudimentary coding, etc), etc.

Here's a screenshot of what I got done in my last attempt:

AshsHouse2.jpg

Its just a simple, low poly model of the main characters house in the original, kanto game. But it didn't exactly take long to make, and I havn't done much architecture. I figure it would get easier as time went on.

I dunno, anyone have comments? Interested in such a thing? Suggestions as to what such a game should include, etc? My plan right now is to make Kanto in its entirety, and the original 151 pokemon(or most of them, anyways).

I cant url good so add me on steam anyways steamcommunity.com/id/Raslin

3ds friend code: 2981-6032-4118
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  • Captain VashCaptain Vash Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I'm pretty sure copy right issues abound would show here.

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  • EinhanderEinhander __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2007
    I'm going to go ahead and save Nintendo the trouble by serving you the C&D right now.

    That said, that house looks cool, and It would be rad to have a classic Poke'Mon game in 3D.

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  • RaslinRaslin Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I'm pretty sure copy right issues abound would show here.

    Ehh. It would be a not for profit thing. Some companies are pretty lax on that sort of thing, as long as its a fan creation that's not for profit.

    I'm optimistic. Even if they said to shut it down, I'd probably just make it for personal fun.

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  • LavaKnightLavaKnight Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Yeah, make the pokemon into some other non-descript type of animals with powers, but just don't call them pokemon.

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  • syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products, Transition Team regular
    edited January 2007
    If you want to complete this project, heed my words.

    Stop talking about it on the internet.

    Recruit people you can trust to help you develop it, and never once show a screen shot or play a movie for someone outside the project.

    Once its finished, put it on a torrent, and post the final info on as many gaming forums as you can.

    Once the cat is out of the bag, you have won.

    Doing it like this is bound to have papers served forcing you to stop development.

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    Let's play Mario Kart or something...
  • ZackSchillingZackSchilling Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Addendum to what syndalis said:

    Include the source so fans can produce bug fixes.

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  • notdekknotdekk Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Raslin wrote:
    I'm pretty sure copy right issues abound would show here.

    Ehh. It would be a not for profit thing. Some companies are pretty lax on that sort of thing, as long as its a fan creation that's not for profit.

    I'm optimistic. Even if they said to shut it down, I'd probably just make it for personal fun.

    It's not really about that. Companies need to protect their property regardless of what it's being used for, otherwise they won't have much of a case when somebody else does decide to use it in a way that they don't like. Also, there's really no question that Nintendo will develop a 3D Pokemon at some point. That game would absolutely print money. For that reason alone, they'd shut you down.

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  • MiSTieOtakuMiSTieOtaku Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I thought the Pokemon Pearl and Diamond coming out for the DS were in 3D. Or was that partially in 3D?

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  • RaslinRaslin Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    notdekk wrote:
    Raslin wrote:
    I'm pretty sure copy right issues abound would show here.

    Ehh. It would be a not for profit thing. Some companies are pretty lax on that sort of thing, as long as its a fan creation that's not for profit.

    I'm optimistic. Even if they said to shut it down, I'd probably just make it for personal fun.

    It's not really about that. Companies need to protect their property regardless of what it's being used for, otherwise they won't have much of a case when somebody else does decide to use it in a way that they don't like. Also, there's really no question that Nintendo will develop a 3D Pokemon at some point. That game would absolutely print money. For that reason alone, they'd shut you down.

    Well, I still don't know nintendo's policy. There are games like Pokemon Twilight, fan made games with different pokemon, that havn't been shut down. If they get mad at me for using official pokemon, I could always switch to different pokemon.

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    3ds friend code: 2981-6032-4118
  • RaslinRaslin Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I thought the Pokemon Pearl and Diamond coming out for the DS were in 3D. Or was that partially in 3D?

    Very partially.

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  • EinhanderEinhander __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2007
    Develop it for XNA and change the names of the creatures to Mana'Pokes.

    No one will ever know.

    But seriously, if you were to develop a game with a similar premise (venture forth and capture creatures, train them, and then challenge other people in the world with them) using your own ideas and settings, I think it would still be fun. I think that the appeal of Poke'Mon was always more the ridiculous amount of monsters and the collection aspect much moreso than any of the actual characters.

    Plus, it would give you complete creative freedom in terms of what kind of environments, towns, characters, monsters, storylines, and anything else in the game since they would all be created by you.

    Also, Nintendo wouldn't be able to sue you, and that would also be pretty good.

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  • RaslinRaslin Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    From what I've been able to find out, Nintendo is ok with fan made games as long as you don't physically use any of their property(sprites, etc), and you make up your own pokemon. The formula, pokemon name, etc are allowed to be used afaik, as long as you give credit.

    So... Anyone have idea's for pokemon? My imagination is pretty crappy :P

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    3ds friend code: 2981-6032-4118
  • Target PracticeTarget Practice Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Einhander wrote:
    I'm going to go ahead and save Nintendo the trouble by serving you the C&D right now.

    That said, that house looks cool, and It would be rad to have a classic Poke'Mon game in 3D.
    We can do that?

    Awesome. I serve a C&D against Mike Judge for his "Idiocracy" movie. He's clearly ripping off C.M. Kornbluth's "The Marching Morons".

    ...annnnnyway. My point of view is this: If you have a talent for something -- whether it's writing or art or programming or whathaveyou -- you should make your own stuff instead of fan-stuff.

    If you don't have the talent, you probably shouldn't bother at all.

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  • xzzyxzzy Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I say you rename it Prodwoman and save yourself the C&D two years down the road.

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  • RaslinRaslin Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    xzzy wrote:
    I say you rename it Prodwoman and save yourself the C&D two years down the road.

    I keep seeing other fan made games doing what I am, just in 2d. If anything, my project is further away than those.

    Jeez, you guys are such negative nancy's.

    ...

    I will go hang myself for using that term.

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    3ds friend code: 2981-6032-4118
  • -SPI--SPI- Osaka, JapanRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
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    That's why people are being negative. We all remember how that ended.

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  • Kewop DecamKewop Decam Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    why not just make something original?

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  • RaslinRaslin Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    -SPI- wrote:
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    That's why people are being negative. We all remember how that ended.

    And there are other examples of games that weren't shut down. From what I can tell, nintendo/gamefreak either doesn't care enough to shut down these fan games, or its too hard for them to actively go after them. Either way, I keep seeing more and more fan games out there, not shut down.

    If they do give me a C&D, big deal. I won't release it.

    To the post below the quoted one, I don't have a great imagination, and being able to work on something that I can base off something else is what I need. Its direction. I need to work on my modeling skills, which is what this was initially intended to do.

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  • TiemlerTiemler Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    LavaKnight wrote:
    Yeah, make the pokemon into some other non-descript type of animals with powers, but just don't call them pokemon.

    Hey, it worked for Digimon.

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  • ZephosZephos Climbin in yo ski lifts, snatchin your people up. MichiganRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    just make them real animals.


    Wild Grizzly Bear appears
    Grizzly Bear uses Swipe

    Player takes 20000000 damage

    its super effective


    player DIES.

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  • Dee KaeDee Kae Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Tiemler wrote:
    LavaKnight wrote:
    Yeah, make the pokemon into some other non-descript type of animals with powers, but just don't call them pokemon.

    Hey, it worked for Digimon.
    Booooo.

    =.=

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  • EtericEteric Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Nintendo seriously needs to hire the guys that made that Chrono Trigger fan game. They have some serious talent.

    I've always wanted to work on some games, never had the chance though. I'm shit at computers, but I'm pretty creative.

    If you make a new Pokemon game, don't make it like the gameboy games. They're to repetitive. They need to add some new elements to the game, seriously.

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  • MarioMario Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I agree with some of the other posters - rip off Pokemon in terms of mechanics and general structure, but fill the world and story with your own content. Doing it this way will result in

    a. avoiding the wrath of Nintendo (the better it gets and more successful you are with your current plan, the more likely they are to come knocking)

    b. if you make significant progress, you have something you could actually turn commercial (this may not be the aim but it might be nice to have the option at least)

    c. if you don't have a good imagination, its a good opportunity to develop those skills or learn to partner with someone that has those skills.


    Whatever you decide, good luck :)

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  • Kewop DecamKewop Decam Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    do it backwards... animals capturing people. Some of the people could be like a lawyer, who has lawyer attacks. Maybe ninja, you know the internet loves ninjas. Construction worker, soldier, school girl, plumber, the works.

    Do it before I do!

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  • AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    LavaKnight wrote:
    Yeah, make the pokemon into some other non-descript type of animals with powers, but just don't call them pokemon.

    Call them Pokey-Mans.

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  • -SPI--SPI- Osaka, JapanRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    do it backwards... animals capturing people. Some of the people could be like a lawyer, who has lawyer attacks. Maybe ninja, you know the internet loves ninjas. Construction worker, soldier, school girl, plumber, the works.

    Do it before I do!
    LavaKnight wrote:
    Yeah, make the pokemon into some other non-descript type of animals with powers, but just don't call them pokemon.

    Call them Pokey-Mans.
    LISTEN TO THESE PEOPLE FOR GODS-SAKE!

    THIS COULD BE THE GREATEST THING EVER.

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  • HoukHouk Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    With the pokey and the mans

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  • PolagoPolago Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Houk wrote:
    With the pokey and the mans

    ...and the DAH HAW HAW HAW HAW!!

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  • HoukHouk Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    PolaGo wrote:
    Houk wrote:
    With the pokey and the mans

    ...and the DAH HAW HAW HAW HAW!!
    IT'LL BE AROUND FEREVER!

    Edit: oh, and if you do actually make a game where you can capture humans like pokemon, and you need any story/writing help, you know where to look.

    [spoiler:2106d33b7c]Right here, baby[/spoiler:2106d33b7c]

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  • PolagoPolago Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Houk wrote:
    PolaGo wrote:
    Houk wrote:
    With the pokey and the mans

    ...and the DAH HAW HAW HAW HAW!!
    IT'LL BE AROUND FEREVER!

    ...HEH HEH HEH!

    Polago on
  • thedeadpenguinthedeadpenguin Registered User new member
    edited January 2007
    do it backwards... animals capturing people. Some of the people could be like a lawyer, who has lawyer attacks. Maybe ninja, you know the internet loves ninjas. Construction worker, soldier, school girl, plumber, the works.

    Do it before I do!

    Oh man I want that game. "Oh no, our town's favorite restaurant is going to fail its health inspection and get shut down!" "It's ok, I caught a level 20 Health Inspector with Take Bribe in the next town over!"

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  • HoukHouk Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    do it backwards... animals capturing people. Some of the people could be like a lawyer, who has lawyer attacks. Maybe ninja, you know the internet loves ninjas. Construction worker, soldier, school girl, plumber, the works.

    Do it before I do!

    Oh man I want that game. "Oh no, our town's favorite restaurant is going to fail its health inspection and get shut down!" "It's ok, I caught a level 20 Health Inspector with Take Bribe in the next town over!"
    see, that'd be the joke character. but then you get badass poke-mans like Mafia Hitman, with Break Ya Friggin Legs attack, and Grizzled Vietnam Vet, with Acid Flashback to Da Nang attack. It's pretty sweet.

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  • -SPI--SPI- Osaka, JapanRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    This must be made. If this does get made I'll help.

    Crippled Physicist Poke-man! Insane ship captain with-a-grudge-against-a-whale Poke-man! Stock Broker Pokey-Man with insider trading attacks!

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  • MiSTieOtakuMiSTieOtaku Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I say, like everyone else has, change them from those cute loveable little creatures, that you beat into a near unconcious state before capturing to do your bidding, into something else. How about Demons? You could be a 'Sorcerer' (Instead of Trainer) who summons and binds demons to his will before using them to fight other Sorcerers.

    Though, if you wanted something a little more PC I suppose you could call them all 'Spirits', and come up with some other aspect aligned creatures.

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  • Kewop DecamKewop Decam Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    -SPI- wrote:
    This must be made. If this does get made I'll help.

    Crippled Physicist Poke-man! Insane ship captain with-a-grudge-against-a-whale Poke-man! Stock Broker Pokey-Man with insider trading attacks!

    yea, if you decide this I'll totally help in the art department

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  • aspaaspa Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I say, like everyone else has, change them from those cute loveable little creatures, that you beat into a near unconcious state before capturing to do your bidding, into something else. How about Demons? You could be a 'Sorcerer' (Instead of Trainer) who summons and binds demons to his will before using them to fight other Sorcerers.

    Though, if you wanted something a little more PC I suppose you could call them all 'Spirits', and come up with some other aspect aligned creatures.

    http://www.e-sheep.com/apocamon/

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  • MiSTieOtakuMiSTieOtaku Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    aspa wrote:
    I say, like everyone else has, change them from those cute loveable little creatures, that you beat into a near unconcious state before capturing to do your bidding, into something else. How about Demons? You could be a 'Sorcerer' (Instead of Trainer) who summons and binds demons to his will before using them to fight other Sorcerers.

    Though, if you wanted something a little more PC I suppose you could call them all 'Spirits', and come up with some other aspect aligned creatures.

    http://www.e-sheep.com/apocamon/

    That is really creepy.

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  • JerikTelorianJerikTelorian Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    While I would normally agree with the imminent C&D. I have a feeling he could pull this project off no problem.

    A few weeks ago, I stumbled upon this while browsing around the internet:

    http://pokemondoa.mmogamez.com/

    Not only is this a Pokemon MMO with the licensed monsters, it also pretty much uses the engine from the early Pokemon games, modified to run on PC as an MMO. If Nintendo/GF hasn't nailed this yet, I imagine they just don't care.

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    Anyone notice how some things (mattresses and the copy machines in Highrise) are totally impenetrable? A steel wall, yeah that makes sense, but bullets should obliterate copy machines.

    I don't know about you, but I always buy a bullet proof printer. Its a lot more expensive, but I think the advantages are apparent.
  • wateyadwateyad Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Tiemler wrote:
    LavaKnight wrote:
    Yeah, make the pokemon into some other non-descript type of animals with powers, but just don't call them pokemon.

    Hey, it worked for Digimon.

    Uh, Digimon was a virtual pet before Pokemon was a video game...

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