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I'm an eighteen year-old guy and, cutting a long story short, I've received a few increasingly creepy text messages over the first few days. These messages I know are from a middle-aged man who lives in my area. I'm certain he knows my first name and mobile phone number (if he knows more I'm not aware of it yet), but I have his business card (with full name, mobile, fax and email) and know where he lives.
I've already made a report to the police, but he hasn't done anything incriminating just yet. It could just peter off, but I want to be prepared: what else can I do?
Sounds good. However, I'm going to wait until I've had another chance to talk to the police (I'm walking on eggshells). I might wait until Monday, because the policewoman I talked to will be working again then and she hasn't yet put his details in the database because at the time I didn't have his address with me.
Hold on, why are you talking to the police at this point?
Unless the text messages say something like "I want to bathe in your blood and make a nice tablelamp out of your skin" then so far all we have is a dude sending you some texts.
If you have not yet explicitly told him that you do not desire any further communication from him, then going to the police is really jumping the gun.
I'm not reporting him as such, I'm just getting their advice, since this has gone beyond plain social awkwardness.
EDIT: Also, it should be noted that this guy has some sort of criminal record for something similar, but not stalking. I haven't been told the details though, since that would be a massive breach of privacy.
ceresWhen the last moon is cast over the last star of morningAnd the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, ModeratorMod Emeritus
edited January 2010
It doesn't matter what he has or doesn't have or if he's murdered sixteen puppies or whatever even a little bit unless he directly threatens you because you haven't told him to stop contacting you. I don't know why this is so difficult. Nobody can do a damn thing until you say "stop" (preferably in writing or text or somewhere that is traceable) and he persists. You can talk to the police till you're blue in the face and they'll tell you to go away because you have NOTHING.
If you're serious about this and not just playing some game with him then you need to tell him in no uncertain terms to go away. Nothing you've said about waiting sounds like anything more than an excuse not to deal with it. That's fine, you can make all the excuses you like, but until you tell him otherwise texting you is not illegal.
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Actually, it's less my preference more my mum's: she's being a bit pedantic about this situation (although to be honest it's understandable). Honestly I didn't want to bring that up since it's kind of embarrassing.
Anyways, if he doesn't contact me again then all is well and good. At the moment it hasn't gone too far, so I don't think it can do too much harm to leave it be for a day or two, if just to keep mother dearest happy, even if it's pretty clear they'll say exactly what's being said here. :?
Oh lord... you can't live under your mother's shadow for your entire life, man. You'll never be able to handle easily-resolved yet uncomfortable situations... like, say, this one.
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Raneadospolice apologistyou shouldn't have been there, obviouslyRegistered Userregular
edited January 2010
how creepy are these messages?
is it more like
hey man what's up
or is it
what are you wearing
because he might not be being intentionally creepy
and it might not be this guy at all?
@Maker: Indeed, but that's not the case. This is more me not trying to make her overreact more than obviously already she already is, and considering the situation hasn't escalated too much yet I'm prepared to let it ride.
@Rane: Leaning towards option B, but not quite so blatant.
Anyways, not much I can do 'till he contacts me again. If he does then it's time to reconsider the situation.
This doesn't even sound like it's really gone beyond being annoying yet. There's no need at ALL to be dealing with the police right now unless he's saying something pretty bad. Just call him, tell him to stop contacting you for reasons X, Y Z, and hang up. If it continues, call the cell # and have them block his number OR get a new number. Unless you really want to get the police involved.
PasserbyeI am much older than you.in Beach CityRegistered Userregular
edited January 2010
Just tell him, clearly, once, in a text message (so it can be traced if need be) to leave you alone. Literally just send something like 'I don't want to contact you, please stop sending me messages and leave me alone'. If he doesn't, then contact the police. If he does stop texting you, all the better.
Right now you're just causing the police extra trouble they don't need and can't really do anything about.
ceresWhen the last moon is cast over the last star of morningAnd the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, ModeratorMod Emeritus
edited January 2010
So.. you've talked to the police already over a few text messages when you've never even told the guy not to? What are you trying to do to the guy?
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Ignoring it won't make it go away. Act like your own person, and simply text him with "Do not contact or talk to me anymore."
It doesn't matter what your mom thinks, this is clearly messing with you, because you've gone to the police over it. Laying low and hoping it goes away is the reason thugs and creeps get to run people's lives.
I had some sad drunken bloke phone me repeatedly, insisting I was called a different name. I think someone gave him a wrong number deliberately (sensible woman) but unfortunately, it was mine. He harassed me for several days, being a bit explicit about his intentions, not in a nice way, despite me telling him to stop, so I a) saved his number as "Sad pervert" , and b) texted him telling him I'd report him to the police for sexual harassment if he didn't stop phoning me. He stopped.
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@Maker: Indeed, but that's not the case. This is more me not trying to make her overreact more than obviously already she already is, and considering the situation hasn't escalated too much yet I'm prepared to let it ride.
Don't justify it. You're uncomfortable about this dude calling you, and instead of doing what a put-together adult would do--which is just tell the guy to fuck off--you're calling the cops and asking for help on the internet. Oh, and probably asked mom for help, too.
I mean you the best advice when I say that this is embarassing. Like it or not, you are going to have to learn to stand on your own at some point in life. Whether that point is now (as it should be) or when you're 65 and your ma kicks the bucket (as it most certainly should not be) is up to you. Start with the little things, because the big things are gonna floor you if you don't get some practice in.
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ceresWhen the last moon is cast over the last star of morningAnd the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, ModeratorMod Emeritus
edited January 2010
No. If he doesn't want the dude texting him at all under any circumstances, the only appropriate next step is to tell him so as clearly as possible. "Figuring out what to do from there" comes after harassment, which it isn't yet because he hasn't said anything to indicate that the advances, such as they may be, are unwelcome.
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She shoulda sent Lewie over with a bat for a little frontier justice.
Wait... what would they call frontier justice in Europe? They never really had a frontier.
In all seriousness, good to hear you've not got any additional messages. He'll probably just assume you're not interested since you haven't replied back.
I'm kinda sensing there is quite a bit of untold story going on though, considering you have this man's business card, know where he lives, and he either got your mobile number or knew enough about you to find it. (In the US anyway) cell phone numbers aren't published, so if it's the same way in your country he would have either had to have gotten it from you, or socially engineered one of your friends or family members into giving it up.
I'm just thinking there might be a lesson in here somewhere about who you make contact with.
I hope you didn't ruin some poor guy's life.
Take this a lesson in adulthood and how to communicate with other people in meaningful and effective ways.
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Raneadospolice apologistyou shouldn't have been there, obviouslyRegistered Userregular
edited January 2010
Flay if you're not telling the whole story then how can we accurately give you info
that apparently you're not going to listen to anyway
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its not that hard, tell him to stop. call his number and make it clear that you do not want him contacting you.
outside of that, switch your number. you can block his cell maybe but he can use a different number to call/text.
Unless the text messages say something like "I want to bathe in your blood and make a nice tablelamp out of your skin" then so far all we have is a dude sending you some texts.
If you have not yet explicitly told him that you do not desire any further communication from him, then going to the police is really jumping the gun.
He may not even know that he is upsetting you.
EDIT: Also, it should be noted that this guy has some sort of criminal record for something similar, but not stalking. I haven't been told the details though, since that would be a massive breach of privacy.
If you're serious about this and not just playing some game with him then you need to tell him in no uncertain terms to go away. Nothing you've said about waiting sounds like anything more than an excuse not to deal with it. That's fine, you can make all the excuses you like, but until you tell him otherwise texting you is not illegal.
Anyways, if he doesn't contact me again then all is well and good. At the moment it hasn't gone too far, so I don't think it can do too much harm to leave it be for a day or two, if just to keep mother dearest happy, even if it's pretty clear they'll say exactly what's being said here. :?
is it more like
hey man what's up
or is it
what are you wearing
because he might not be being intentionally creepy
and it might not be this guy at all?
@Rane: Leaning towards option B, but not quite so blatant.
Anyways, not much I can do 'till he contacts me again. If he does then it's time to reconsider the situation.
Right now you're just causing the police extra trouble they don't need and can't really do anything about.
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It doesn't matter what your mom thinks, this is clearly messing with you, because you've gone to the police over it. Laying low and hoping it goes away is the reason thugs and creeps get to run people's lives.
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I mean you the best advice when I say that this is embarassing. Like it or not, you are going to have to learn to stand on your own at some point in life. Whether that point is now (as it should be) or when you're 65 and your ma kicks the bucket (as it most certainly should not be) is up to you. Start with the little things, because the big things are gonna floor you if you don't get some practice in.
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She shoulda sent Lewie over with a bat for a little frontier justice.
Wait... what would they call frontier justice in Europe? They never really had a frontier.
In all seriousness, good to hear you've not got any additional messages. He'll probably just assume you're not interested since you haven't replied back.
I'm kinda sensing there is quite a bit of untold story going on though, considering you have this man's business card, know where he lives, and he either got your mobile number or knew enough about you to find it. (In the US anyway) cell phone numbers aren't published, so if it's the same way in your country he would have either had to have gotten it from you, or socially engineered one of your friends or family members into giving it up.
I'm just thinking there might be a lesson in here somewhere about who you make contact with.
Good luck either way.
England, not Europe!
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"The power of the weirdness compels me."
Very true, but I think I'll leave it a mystery. :P
Oh well, still no messages, so all is well.
Take this a lesson in adulthood and how to communicate with other people in meaningful and effective ways.
that apparently you're not going to listen to anyway